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NHL playoff results

I created a page similar to NFL playoff results where we can map out every series there is (eventually, as I'm starting from 1943 onward).

Eventually, when it's finished, it will be moved onto the mainspace, but for now, it's a subpage/pet project of mine. I hope you can help me to complete it. –Piranha249 20:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I am surprised there is an NFL page like that. It very likely runs afoul of WP:NOTSTATS since you are just throwing in stats from various seasons all into one page with little context. -DJSasso (talk) 12:02, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Just for context, the conversation that led to this draft can be found here. Deadman137 (talk) 14:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Unused templates or modules

I see there are quite a few ice hockey-related templates or modules that were created in 2017 but were never used. Those include Template:NHL game log start, Template:NHL game log section, Template:NHL game log end, Template:NHL team color, Module:Hockey team color, Module:Sports color/hockey. Should they be deleted? If I remember correctly, this project takes minimal approach towards the visual appearance of infoboxes or tables and I believe there is no need for this kind of templates or modules. Any opinions are welcome. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Looks like it was just one editor trying to create something that never went anywhere. You can probably nominate them for deletion with no issue. It certainly was never brought up here for discussion to create them. -DJSasso (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Looks like one is already scheduled to be deleted, which I can execute now I think. Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 June 28#Module:Handball color. -DJSasso (talk) 15:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
All of the templates were nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 July 11#Unused NHL templates. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

United States ice hockey structure

Read this article recently and it strikes me more of North American article rather than simply the US. I was thinking about proposing a move to Ice hockey structure in North America as the similarities between Canada and the US greatly overlap (the main differences seems to be in the USA Hockey vs. Hockey Canada juniors/minor and the NCAA vs. CIS/U Sports). Also a possibility is simply merging into Ice hockey in North America or Ice hockey in the United States. Anyone have any thoughts on this, because right now it seems a bit original research-y to me. (Also the main source for the article is titled "The North American Hockey System".) Any recommendations? Yosemiter (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

There definitely seems to be a lot of duplication of information. I'm not sure which way to merge things right now. Flibirigit (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Ray Emery FAR

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Looking for some clarification

In my summer attempts to clean up and source many of the minor leagues, I have recently turned my attention to the Canadian Women's Hockey League. I found sourcing many of this league's changes in past years to be quite challenging. Of note, it has recently come to light the Quebec Phenix never appeared to have played in Quebec City, despite being listed this way on the page since its creation], even though it listed a rink the Montreal area. I cannot find any sources to collaborate either way (although newer sources seem to be using wikipedia as a source).

Also, I am trying to navigate what happened with the creation of the Toronto Furies, their relation to the Toronto Aeros, and that some sources say the Aeros were also the Mississauga Chiefs. Each page then has some cross over, such as the Chiefs and Aeros each sharing a few seasons in their stats list. Then the Aeros list the 2010–11 stats, but there is a page called 2010–11 Toronto Furies season. I cannot find any live sources, but both this and this only call the losing team "Toronto" without a team name. Wikipedia should be informative, but I have no idea what to make of this as I am not Canadian and the on-line sources seem to all be dead (if they ever existed). So if anyone has some insight on how to proceed with this clean up, I am all ears. Yosemiter (talk) 19:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I know very little of women's hockey in Canada. I suggest pinging some of the folks in the Women's Ice Hockey task force. Flibirigit (talk) 19:33, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Well, I could ping Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport/Ice hockey task force, but that project is not very active and has typically focused on more on individual Women's Notability, not much on hockey itself, teams, or records. I pinged that page anyways because I know User:mark Staffieri and User:Bill McKenna do keep some of the women's pages going. Yosemiter (talk) 20:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The CWHL 2010–11 standings says Furies, the 2011 playoffs just says Toronto, and the Clarkson Cup history page says the Stars defeated the Toronto Aeros. So still no idea. Yosemiter (talk) 23:43, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Even though the CWHL existed pre-2010–11 CWHL season, the league was completely restructured for the 2010–11 CWHL season. Some teams shut down and new ones took their place. This was Toronto's first CWHL season. I searched the Canadian Newsstream on ProQuest and the earliest mentions of Toronto Furies is October 2011. That name is then used for the entire 2011-12 season. It is not used at all prior to that season. My guess is that when the CWHL renamed the team on their site, it attached that name to every season which is why the 2010-11 season shows as the Furies, even though all media shows as just Toronto for that season. Also worth noting that the 2010–11 Toronto Furies season page was originally 2010–11 Toronto CWHL season until that season was over. Here's a quote from this souce ("The Toronto franchise in the Canadian Women's Hockey League (CWHL) has a new name and a new home arena this season. The Toronto Furies, led by Tessa Bonhomme, who helped Canada win Olympic gold in 2010 and is showing her versatility by doing well in the Battle of the Blades, currently on CBC, is based this season out of George Bell Arena." - "SPORTS SCOOP: For the week of Oct. 31". The City Centre Mirror. Willowdale, ON. October 31, 2011. p. 1.) I believe that during the 2010–11 CWHL season, the teams did not have nicknames. They just went by the city name. Or at least that's how all the media on Canadian Newsstream refers to the teams. – Nurmsook! talk... 20:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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