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Input requested on use of "orthodox"

At Pentecostalism, there is currently a discussion on whether it is appropriate to describe mainstream Christians/theology as "orthodox". Input would be appreciated. Ltwin (talk)

List of Christian heresies

Please see my post at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#List of Christian heresies. I think some people who watch this page might be interested. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:28, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

For future reference, that's Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard/Archive 71#List of Christian heresies. Daask (talk) 21:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Request for David Trone article re: Lutheranism

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I posted at request at WikiProject Lutheranism before seeing this centralized discussion space. I'm seeking help from a volunteer to review my request to add mention of David Trone's religion here, if a page watcher is wiling to take a look. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

I am still seeking assistance with this request to add mention of David Trone's religion to his Wikipedia article. @Kendall-K1, Martin of Sheffield, and Walter Görlitz: You've all contributed to this page recently. Might you be willing to take a look at the update I've proposed here? Inkian Jason (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Never heard of the fellow before, nor his business. Can't see how his religion of otherwise is relevant to the article, but then I'm a Brit and I don't follow the ins and outs of low-level US Politics! Which is a long way of saying I don't think I can help. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

This edit request has been answered. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:47, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Methodist Church

I was looking for the Methodist Church that was formed in the US in 1939, typed in "Methodist Church", and got redirected to Methodism (disambiguation), which was no help. I think there should be a list of all Methodist Church denominations somewhere, and maybe there is, but it should either be at Methodism (disambiguation) or there should be a new dab page for it. Either way, typing in "Methodist Church" should quickly bring me to this list.

Actually it turns out there is such a list, at List of Methodist denominations. Two problems with this, one it's not easily findable from Methodism (disambiguation), and two it does not include the church I was looking for, which is at Methodist Church (USA). Apparently it only has current churches, not previous ones that are no longer in existence. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh my. A lot of links. We should usually break back-links by creating them with a colon ([[:List of Methodist denominations]]), but it was easy enough to add the list to the dab page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:55, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Which helps but still doesn't solve my problem. Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:09, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Sorry. I was only reading with half an eye. Does there seem to be an article maintainer or primary editor? If so, ping that editor on the article's talk page to suggest creating a section of historical denominations. If not, be WP:BOLD, and create such a section and add the denominations you think should be there. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 Done Added to list. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:36, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

People of Praise

Greetings! This article appears to require attention from non-involved editors interested in Christianity. I have addressed some of my concerns on its talk page. Any help welcome, —PaleoNeonate – 11:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

HELP WANTED

For a number of years we have been experiencing a steady decline in the number of administrators as a result of attrition and a declining number of editors willing to consider adminship. Things have reached a point where we are starting to experience chronic backlogs in important areas of the project including noticeboards, requests for closure, SPI, CSD & etc. If you are an experienced editor with around two years (or more) of tenure, 10k edits give or take and no record of seriously disruptive behavior, please consider if you might be willing to help out the community by becoming an administrator. The community can only function as well as we all are willing to participate. If you are interested start by reading WP:MOP and WP:RFAADVICE. Then go to WP:ORCP and open a discussion. Over the next few days experienced editors will take a look at your record and let you know what they think your chances are of passing RfA (the three most terrifying letters on Wikipedia) as well as provide you with feedback on areas that might be of concern and how to prepare yourself. Lastly you can find a list of experienced editors who may be willing to nominate you here. Thank you and happy editing... [Note:This page may not be on my watchlist so if you want to reply to me, please either ping me or drop me a line on my talk page.] -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:51, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Ichthus July 2018 is out now!

* Read this Ichthus in full * Get Ichthus delivered to your Talkpage * – Lionel(talk) 08:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

125(+/-5)? 2 Peter written, widely accepted into canon by the early 4th century

From where was this information researched?

125(+/-5)? 2 Peter written, widely accepted into canon by the early 4th century

Is it based on the lack of 2Peter fragments of the Alexandrian type around 125? Seems like a pretty big assumption if so. Please provide a citation for it.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.13.39 (talk) 00:44, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Your question arrives without context. You seem to have gleaned this from the timeline of Christianity article. You'll find more complete answers in the article on the epistle itself: Second Epistle of Peter. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion notification

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Tanakh, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:10, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alexandrian school

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The article Alexandrian school has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not Well Sourced/ To The Point Of Not Being Encyclopedic (All Valuable Content Here Could Be Merged Into Another Page With Maybe Three Sentences)

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Ethics in the Bible

I have proposed a change to Ethics in the Bible on its talk page involving restructuring the article topically to produce a more neutral pov and better content. I am looking for consensus on improving what everyone agrees is a poor quality article. Please come and comment.Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

peer review

Biblical criticism is up for peer review in preparation for Featured article review. Please come and comment. [1] Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

LifeWay Christian Resources

LifeWay Christian Resources is in need of a major clean-up, if anyone is interested. The POV passages need to be trimmed and more referenced info needs to be added about its history. I also suggest we add a list of past presidents. Please ping me if you can/want to help. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 17:53, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

The Book of Daniel (album)

Eyes are needed at The Book of Daniel (album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). IP edit warring, using words like "alleged," despite what WP:ALLEGED states, and going on about bad writing and neutrality. Article has been semi-protected as a result of the edit warring. But the IP is likely to continue editing the article in problematic ways, whether as an IP or or registered account. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 04:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

(Category) rename proposal

There is relisted discussion about renaming Category:Christianity of the Middle Ages. If you wish, please join this discussion. Based on the arguments in that discussion, we might also rename article History of Christianity during the Middle Ages. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:G-d

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:G-d has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Cabayi (talk) 13:52, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Pentarchy

An editor is making changes on the article without delivering any proof. I like to see some more eyes on this article and more participation in the discussion at Talk:Pentarchy#Shouldn't Jerusalem status be compared with that of Alexandra?. An earlier round of this discussion took place at Template_talk:Pentarchy#Jerusalem. The Banner talk 19:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

RfC on Infobox church

I have proposed adding a number of parameters and re-ordering a section of Template:Infobox church. Input on the discussion is welcome here. Ergo Sum 01:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Communion and Liberation

The Communion and Liberation article is having some issues. The root of the problem appears to be a content dispute, compounded by none of the involved editors having English as a first language. The article would benefit greatly by the attention of someone who understood the English-language terminology of the Catholic Church. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:29, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Christadelphians

Dear editors interested in Christianity articles:

I came across this article when I was fixing some dead links. It seems well developed and carefully written. I am concerned that the reference section seems to be being used to express opinion and to promote ideas instead of just to reference sources. Perhaps someone who is familiar with this topic could take a look and see if it meets Wikipedia's neutrality standards. I know it's difficult sometimes for writers who are used to expressing their own philosophy to switch to the encyclopedic style of just writing bare facts.—Anne Delong (talk) 15:03, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Ascension

The Ascension of Jesus article written by a single user is poorly written, suffering from WP:OR, WP:SYNTH, WP:WEASEL, and WP:ASE. I have gone through the sources and rewritten parts of the article, but would appreciate an expansion on the theology and biblical account portions. Unfortunately, back in 2016 it appears the article was in good shape but has been eroded away since. Dr. Ryan E. (talk) 09:49, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Question

So, a little while ago I created q:Category:American Anglicans. But, I'm not totally sure if that's correct. Are American Anglicans by definition Episcopalians? Or is that an institutional convention only, and not a doctrinal religious thing? GMGtalk 12:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

That's correct. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:36, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Wait...which one? Should it simply be Category:Episcopalians or Category:American Anglicans? GMGtalk 14:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry that I was not clear. It's correct that they are known as Episcopalians. While they are technically American Anglicans, that is not their common name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Definitely Episcopalians if you want to cover only the Episcopal Church and not others who might call themselves Anglicans. It's the proper name of the church. Doug Weller talk 18:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I disagree, in part.
American Anglicans are mostly Episcopalians-- that is members of the Episcopal Church (United States), but American members of the Continuing Anglican movement are also American Anglicans.
Furthermore, the Anglican Communion in Scotland is the Scottish Episcopal Church, and so these Anglicans are also be called Episcopalians. As a result, not all American Anglicans are Episcopalians, and globally, not all Episcopalians are American Anglicans. tahc chat 18:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Hmm...Well I don't think there's enough content on WQ to really get to that level of granularity (many considerable sized cities don't even have their own categories yet). So it looks like the solution is to keep American Anglicans, and then potentially split that off into sub-categories if the category becomes cluttered. GMGtalk 18:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I presumed you didn't want to include those churches that don't belong to the Anglican Communion. The Scottish Episcopalians are irrelevant as I thought the category would be American Episcopalians. We don't call members of the Old Catholic Church Catholics so far as I know. See Warren Prall Watters Franz Heinrich Reusch Gerard Shelley. So members of American Anglican churches not part of the AC shouldn't be called Anglicans, but that's solved by the category being American Episcopalians I think. Doug Weller talk 07:21, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Biggest problem is scale and granularity. Wikiquote is so comparatively small, that there may not actually be a single page on a member of a comparatively small sect. I've not even made a category for American Evangelicals yet, because at this point, it makes more sense to just lump them in with American protestants. I believe so far I've categorized...maybe three or four Evangelicals, having gone through and re-categorized about ~350 pages in q:Category:Americans. GMGtalk 13:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Merger?

It's been suggested that Denial of the virgin birth of Jesus should be merged with Virgin birth of Jesus. PopSci (talk) 15:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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