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This is the coordination page for the Tip of the day department.

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The tip of the day (or TOTD) is a helpful tip on how to use or edit Wikipedia. It is displayed by template on prominent help and community pages (and many user pages), presenting a different tip each day. The template displays the tip page named for the current date. The year is left off of the page titles, so that the same collection of tips redisplays automatically year after year.

Our purpose here is to keep the tips relevant. This means keeping tip pages up-to-date, and replacing tips with new ones when they become obsolete. In addition to this, we are constantly on the lookout for better tips to improve the overall collection, replacing not-as-useful tips with more useful ones.

As you probably guessed, that means there are 366 tip pages that need to be maintained. We welcome your help in maintaining and adding tips.

See Tip of the day scheduling queue for the complete schedule of tips.

Postscript-viewer.svg See Wikipedia:Tips for the complete library of tips arranged by subject.

Tip of the day...
Change text size quickly (with Ctrl-mouse wheel)

If you have a scroll wheel mouse, hold down the "Ctrl" key (on the keyboard) while you roll the scroll wheel‍—‌it makes the text larger or smaller instantly!

Bonus tip: this tip works in many other applications too. (It is generally used for zooming in Microsoft Windows.)

To add this auto-updating template to your user page, use {{totd3}}

Contents

How you can help

To suggest a new tip or report a problem with a tip, create a new section at the very bottom of this Talk page to let us know. Feel free to make corrections directly to tip pages, and please let us know at the bottom of this page when you do. Other ideas and comments are also welcome.

To view and check the TOTD a day before it goes live, place {{totd-tomorrow}} on your user Talk page (including the four curly braces).

If you would like to join this department, please add yourself to the participants list below.

Invitation

Invitation to the Tip of the day WikiProject

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Hello Tip of the day,
You are invited to join the Tip of the day, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to providing useful daily advice on how to use or develop Wikipedia more effectively.
To join the project, just add your name to the participants list. We're so glad you're here!
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To invite another editor to contribute to Tip of the day, copy and paste {{subst:Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day/Invitation}} into a new section on their talk page. Feel free to include your own personal message as well. Cheers!

Participants

There is a bot automatically generated list of active editors.

If you'd like to be kept up-to-date on what is going on with TOTD, and receive task assignments, please add your name below:

Welcome message

Here is a plain Welcome message for posting to new participant's talk page. To post the message copy and paste this:
{{totd plain welcome}} (including the four curly braces).

Remember to sign the message with your four tilde signature: ~~~~

Light bulb * Welcome! Thank you for your recent edits for the Wikipedia Tip of the day and for joining the Tip of the day department.

Instructions

  • New tips (or major rewrites) should be proposed via a New section at the very bottom of this Talk page. Ping other editors if possible. Wait for comments and consensus.
  • Minor updates and copy-edits to existing tips can be done directly at that tip's RAW template found via the Tip of the day scheduling queue.
  • The 366 slots (one for each day of the yearless calendar, including February 29 for leap year) are set up on Wikipedia:Tip of the day so whenever any new tip is added, or an obsolete tip is removed, one of the 366 days needs to be chosen. Put the new tip in a slot that is already duplicated in another slot (e.g.- the same tip is repeated for January 17 and July 17). Replace the duplicate slot that is coming up the soonest using the general workflow checklist below.

Discussion status

To use, click on the Discussion subpage link above, copy and paste into top of each new discusion.

General workflow checklist to add a new tip to replace an existing tip

  1. Directly place the updated (Done) tip into the Tip of the day scheduling queue at one of the 366 subpages by editing the tip.
  2. Update the tip's description at:
    1. Wikipedia:Tip of the day#Chronological list of tips.
    2. WP:ALPHATIPAlphabetical list of tips page.
    3. Wikipedia:Tips, the complete library of tips arranged by subject (pipe the description, link the date to the piped description per the other listings).
      1. If you add a tip you may need to remove a tip too. Check for duplicates.
  3. Update Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day#Tip library maintenance below. You will also need to remove the added date from other months where it is duplicated- e.g.- if you add a tip in place of one in January and it is duplicated in July you will need to remove the January reference in the July maintenance listing.

How to prevent new tip archiving

Use Bump which is a wrapper for the invisible template {{do not archive until}} that is used to prevent bots archiving a discussion thread.

It produces a visible message that the thread has been bumped, and how long for (defaults to 30 days), if a value of days has been specified. It will auto-sign the notification.

{{subst:Bump}} produces:

Bumping thread. Example (talk) 09:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

{{subst:Bump|30}} produces:

Bumping thread for 30 days. Example (talk) 09:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Ambox warning pn.svg Always use the subst prefix, and place under the section title.

Tip library maintenance

As of August 1, 2016, the count of tips (from the scheduling queue) contained within the Tip library:

From the above list, it appears that there are not 366 unique individual tips, which opens the door for new tips to be added to the schedule as well as removal of duplicate tips.

To keep the Tip library in step with the scheduling queue, additional editors may help by reviewing the Tip library and performing cleanup. When each month is completed, please add the {{Done}} template to that month's line in the list above.

Until we reach 366 tips, new tips can be placed into the TOTD Schedule Queue by replacing a duplicate entry from the monthly maintenance lists below.

January maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
January 1 Where to begin? January 1
January 2 Article development January 2
January 3 Are your hands full? (Use search box as a small
but convenient clipboard)
January 3
January 4 How to make your watchlist easier to read January 4
January 5 How to improve Wikipedia's reliability January 5
January 6 How to send a message to other editors January 6
January 7 Image processing tools January 7
January 8 What are dummy edits good for? January 8
January 9 Digital audio editors January 9
January 10 Introduction to navigating Wikipedia January 10
January 11 Captions January 11
January 12 Avoiding common mistakes January 12
January 13 A self-guided tutorial January 13
January 14 Article quality assessments January 14
January 15 Archives for lengthy pages January 15
January 16 Article banner templates January 16
January 17 What is a Talk page? January 17
January 18 How to easily recall a username January 18
January 19
April 19
October 19
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article
January 19
January 20 User scripts examples January 20
January 21 Good article nominations January 21
January 22 Using intuitively named templates to
reduce or enlarge font sizes
January 22
January 23 Search and replace while editing an article. January 23
January 24 Search & replace in thousands of articles with AWB January 24
January 25 Ask for help at Wikipedia's Help Desk January 25
January 26 Souping up your Smartphone editing of Wikipedia January 26
January 27 The semi-automated article peer-reviewer January 27
January 28 How to request help on your Talk page January 28
January 29 Intruder alert! Intruder alert! (Vandalism-level warning) January 29
January 30 What are page history diffs? January 30
January 31 Find articles for cleanup January 31

February maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
February 1 Automatic page loader. February 1
February 2 Redirect synonymous topic names February 2
February 3 Fixing bare URLs to prevent link rot February 3
February 4 Join a WikiProject. February 4
February 5 Getting real-time help via IRC (Internet Relay Chat) February 5
February 6 Articles about books February 6
February 7 How to provide a link to a specific Google Search February 7
February 8 Wikipedia Search box – basic February 8
February 9
March 7
April 7
August 9
Please summarize your work using the Edit summary box
March 7-Please fill-in edit summaries
April 7-Automatic edit summary reminder
Aug. 9-Abbreviating edit summaries
February 9
March 7
April 7
Aug. 9
February 10 Referencing for beginners February 10
February 11 Another way to search Wikipedia with Google February 11
February 12 Introduction to tables February 12
February 13 Shortcut for minor edit box February 13
February 14 Spreading the WikiLove February 14
February 15 Templates for Age and Dates February 15
February 16 Thanks – send a notification February 16
February 17 Mobile view sidebar from the desktop February 17
February 18 Using the Authority control template February 18
February 19 When to use subpages February 19
February 20 How to enable right-click section editing February 20
February 21 Biographies February 21
February 22 Wikipedia banners and buttons February 22
February 23 Help for new contributors February 23
February 24 Calendar date display for your user pages February 24
February 25 Screen readers for accessibility February 25
February 26 Editing projects for school and university classes February 26
February 27 What is Page curation? February 27
February 28 Writing articles for The Signpost February 28
February 29
March 12
August 17
October 7
Please sign your name on talk pages
Please sign your name on talk pages
Please sign your name on talk pages
Please sign your name on talk pages
February 29
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March maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
March 1 How to plant a CategoryTree! March 1
March 2 Test-drive your edits using a sandbox March 2
March 3 Become clairvoyant with Navigation Popups March 3
March 4 Supercharge your browser March 4
March 5 How to create a link to another article March 5
March 6 Use the Article Wizard to easily create new articles March 6
March 7
see
February 9
Please fill-in edit summaries March 7
March 8
April 28
March 8-How to get a list of a page's subpages
April 28-Getting a subpage listing
March 8
March 9 Becoming an Administrator March 9
March 10 Where to post requests March 10
March 11 How to make links look the way you want March 11
March 12
see
February 29
Please sign your name on talk pages -
March 13 Are you lost? March 13
March 14 How to create a new page March 14
March 15 Wikipedia's top ten power tips March 15
March 16
October 31 (keeper)
Do you need administrator assistance? October 31
March 17 How to turn redirects green March 17
March 18
April 10
Cite your sources March 18
March 19 Link tricks March 19
March 20 Running MediaWiki on your own computer March 20
March 21
October 15
Navigate faster using Wikipedia shortcuts October 15
March 22 Searching Wikipedia with regular expressions (regex) March 22
March 23 Getting your edit count March 23
March 24 Transclusion vs. Substitution March 24
March 25 Link to Wiktionary word definitions using Wikt: March 25
March 26
April 17
March 26 – SuggestBot is a fun way to pick pages to edit
April 17 – A fun way to pick pages to edit
March 26
March 27 Work faster with keyboard shortcuts March 27
March 28
June 16
June 28
Ask intelligent questions March 28
March 29 Working on the Main page - I March 29
March 30 Working on the Main page - II March 30
March 31 Toolbar links to access the WP pages you use the most March 31

April maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
April 1 Don not believe everything you read April 1
April 2 Visit the Village Pump for technical issues April 2
April 3 Stop by the Reference Desk April 3
April 4 Where to upload images and media files April 4
April 5 How to fix unsigned comments April 5
April 6 Don not use forums or emails as sources April 6
April 7 Automatic edit summary reminder April 7
April 8 Collaborations April 8
April 9 Search box bookmarklet for your browser April 9
April 10 Cite your sources March 18
April 11 Edit Wikipedia faster with AutoWikiBrowser April 11
April 12 Help Wikipedia help you April 12
April 13 Motto of the day... April 13
April 14 Create a user account April 14
April 15 Copyrights? Copyleft April 15
April 16 Uploading Free Images April 16
April 17 A fun way to pick pages to edit April 17
April 18 How to change your username April 18
April 19
January 19
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article -
April 20 Explore Wikipedia's contents April 20
April 21 Featured article candidates April 21
April 22 Wikipedia search box focus April 22
April 23 How to move/rename a page April 23
April 24 The Wikipedia Adventure! April 24
April 25 Super-customize your account with gadgets April 25
April 26 Keyboard shortcuts April 26
April 27 Now what? (Are you lost, and do not know what to do?) April 27
April 28 Getting a subpage listing April 28
April 29 Setting Wikipedia time to your time zone April 29
April 30 How to make links to articles April 30

May maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
May 1 To search a specific namespace,
include the prefix in searches
May 1
May 2 Time-saving links: the "pipe trick" May 2
May 3 Prove it with ProveIt May 3
May 4 Time-saving links II May 4
May 5 Browsing Mobile Wikipedia on your big screen May 5
May 6 Linking to a section of an article May 6
May 7 Sister projects & interwiki linking May 7
May 8 Displaying one page within another = Transclusion May 8
May 9 Using templates May 9
May 10 General topics lists May 10
May 11 Userboxes May 11
May 12 List building May 12
May 13 When is a Wikipedia project a WikiProject? May 13
May 14 Centralizing project discussion May 14
May 15 Redirects May 15
May 16 Footnotes May 16
May 17 How to add hidden editor notes in an article May 17
May 18 How to review user contributions May 18
May 19 Use your browser's toolbar to navigate Wikipedia May 19
May 20 Formatting disambiguation pages May 20
May 21 Featured content May 21
May 22 Table of contents May 22
May 23 Transclusion caveat May 23
May 24 Go to the right desk May 24
May 25 Please return the favor May 25
May 26 Check your work before you save, using Preview May 26
May 27 Where on the page to put images May 27
May 28 Placing templates May 28
May 29 Placing "External links" sections May 29
May 30
Sept 24
Main page - Did you know May 30
May 31 Shortcuts May 31

June maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
June 1 Placing category tags June 1
June 2 Page history June 2
June 3 Tag your image uploads June 3
June 4 Placing interlanguage links June 4
June 5 Sorting entries in the categories June 5
June 6 Look before you leap June 6
June 7 How to start a new article June 7
June 8 Talking to Wikipedians June 8
June 9 Cite the source on all image uploads June 9
June 10 Preventing markup glitches June 10
June 11 Use your watchlist June 11
June 12 Navigation popups June 12
June 13 How to insert a picture into an article June 13
June 14 Wikipedia-specific searching within Firefox June 14
June 15 Section edit button June 15
June 16
March 28
June 28
Ask intelligent questions
clock In progress, see ARCHIVE
(June 16) – Thanks – template WikiThanks
March 28
June 17 Beware of instruction creep June 17
June 18 Fix double redirects June 18
June 19 Alphabetical list of articles June 19
June 20 Screenshots June 20
June 21 Please read department instructions June 21
June 22 When not to use links June 22
June 23 A better wiki editor: WikEd June 23
June 24 Change text size quickly (with Ctrl-mouse wheel) June 24
June 25 Portals June 25
June 26 What are templates used for? June 26
June 27 Pretty tables June 27
June 28
June 16
March 28
Ask intelligent questions June 28
June 29 Wikipedia for your mobile... June 29
June 30 Custom signatures June 30

July maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
July 1 Citation Requests July 1
July 2 Love thy neighbor July 2
July 3 Posting on the Wikipedia Community Bulletin Board July 3
July 4 Band articles July 4
July 5 List the things to do for an article July 5
July 6 Wikipedia's Manual of Style July 6
July 7 Welcoming Committee July 7
July 8 The three revert rule July 8
July 9 Avoid using neologisms July 9
July 10 The fastest way to end a conflict: walk away July 10
July 11 Jump to the search box ⇧ Shift+Alt+F July 11
July 12 How to use red links July 12
July 13 Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement July 13
July 14 Using Math July 14
July 15 Be forgiving to new users July 15
July 16 Search Wikipedia from any website July 16
July 17 Join the fight against vandalism July 17
July 18 Short link pipe trick July 18
July 19 Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia July 19
July 20 How to make a table on a page July 20
July 21
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October 1
July 21 – Displaying tips on your userpage Note.
Do not change this tip. It is a linked tip on displaying tips! :-)
Oct. 1 – How to display the Tip of the day on your user page
July 21
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October 1
July 22 What did he say? July 22
July 23 Wikipedia industrial-powered search July 23
July 24 Forums and emails are not acceptable sources July 24
July 25 Wikipedia in brief July 25
July 26 Wikipedia's dozen most essential tips July 26
July 27 Wikipedia's ten most powerful tips July 27
July 28 Your very own Wikipedia bookmark page July 28
July 29 Another way to read or share Wikipedia: Books. July 29
July 30 Wikipedia's Quick directory July 30
July 31 How to link to a category without categorizing the page July 31

August maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
August 1 Customize appearance of dates August 1
August 2 Find uncategorized articles August 2
August 3 The lead section August 3
August 4 Articles for Creation (AFC) process August 4
August 5 In conflicts, reach consensus August 5
August 6 How to add an article to a category August 6
August 7 Title searches August 7
August 8 How to watch for pages that do not exist yet August 8
August 9 Abbreviating edit summaries August 9
August 10 How to create a category August 10
August 11 How to search Wikipedia with Google August 11
August 12 How to create reusable boilerplates August 12
August 13 Acronyms and initialisms August 13
August 14 To see everything on Wikipedia about a subject area... August 14
August 15 Explaining Wiki markup to other users August 15
August 16 How to create a subcategory August 16
August 17 Article size August 17
August 18 How does Wikipedia stack up? August 18
August 19 Speed up your learning curve... August 19
August 20 What the world knows about us August 20
August 21 How reliable is Wikipedia? August 21
August 22 When and how to exclude Wikipedia from your Google search August 22
August 23 How to link to a category August 23
August 24 Power-editing with AutoWikiBrowser August 24
August 25 Where to look for help August 25
August 26 How to link to a section of an article August 26
August 27 Join the Recent Changes Patrol! August 27
August 28 Where did that fact come from? August 28
August 29 How popular is Wikipedia? August 29
August 30 Google search link August 30
August 31 My link disappeared! August 31

September maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
September 1 Wikipedia's top ten essential tips September 1
September 2 Spell Checkers September 2
September 3 Install your first javascript September 3
September 4 Guestbooks September 4
September 5 How to use Wikipedia offline: xowa September 5
September 6 Subject bar template September 6
September 7 Article construction stages September 7
September 8 Wikipedia Search box - advanced September 8
September 9 Good article reassessment September 9
September 10 Biography articles needing attention September 10
September 11 Article deletion process September 11
September 12 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) September 12
September 13 Copyright Cleanup September 13
September 14 Wikipedia Database reports September 14
September 15 CopyPatrol Tool September 15
September 16 Featured world of Wikipedia September 16
September 17 Highlight text on any website, then search
Wikipedia for it with a single click
September 17
September 18 Difference between wikiprojects and portals? September 18
September 19 Graphics Lab September 19
September 20 Wikipedia toolbar for Firefox September 20
September 21 How do you pronounce that? September 21
September 22 External links September 22
September 23 Counting your edits September 23
September 24
May 30
Main page - Did you know May 30
September 25 How to link to word definitions September 25
September 26 Tagging pages for problems September 26
September 27 What is BRD? the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle September 27
September 28 Your customizable Wikipedia navigation hub September 28
September 29 Topic lists September 29
September 30 Interwiki links and shortcuts September 30

October maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
October 1
see
July 21
How to display the Tip of the day on your user page October 1
October 2 Wikimedia-wide issues October 2
October 3 Editcountitis October 3
October 4 Category tips October 4
October 5 Avoid trademarks October 5
October 6 Wikipedia-specific searching with Google October 6
October 7
see
February 29
Please sign your name on talk pages -
October 8 User scripts October 8
October 9 Linking articles: the internal link October 9
October 10 How to find legal photographs and graphics October 10
October 11 Keep track of your questions October 11
October 12 How to transclude a page into the page you are editing October 12
October 13 Why have lists when there are categories? October 13
October 14 Wikipedia Search Box for Firefox October 14
October 15
March 21
Navigate faster using Wikipedia shortcuts October 15
October 16 Power tool: Navigation Popups
clock In progress, see ARCHIVE
(October 16) – Thanks – detail logs
October 16
October 17 Power search Wikipedia using AutoWikiBrowser October 17
October 18 Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other October 18
October 19
January 19
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article -
October 20 The five pillars October 20
October 21 Using Special:MyPage to make private links October 21
October 22 Double click editing October 22
October 23 Be neutral, like Wikipedia October 23
October 24 Wikipedia has 22 sections, called namespaces October 24
October 25 How to see a list of the pages in a namespace October 25
October 26 A plain & simple introduction October 26
October 27 Basic copyediting October 27
October 28 S.W.A.T., T.I.M, & the U.S.D.A October 28
October 29 How to enhance Recent changes
Note: twice at Tips library
October 29
October 29
October 30 Namespace entry points October 30
October 31 (keeper)
March 16
Do you need administrator assistance? October 31

November maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
November 1 Flashback to Wikipedia's past November 1
November 2 Report problems on noticeboards November 2
November 3 Wikipedia's alphabetical index of articles November 3
November 4 Help reduce the Wikipedia backlog November 4
November 5 Wikimedia links and shortcuts
Note: twice at Tips library
November 5
November 5
November 6 Advanced signatures November 6
November 7 Be neutral when editing Wikipedia November 7
November 8 Linking to non-Wikimedia wikis
Note: twice at Tips library
November 8
November 8
November 9 "Where do I begin?" November 9
November 10 Editing articles for web accessibility November 10
November 11 The Wikipedia Curriculum November 11
November 12 Giving editor awards November 12
November 13 Spoken Wikipedia November 13
November 14 Mediation November 14
November 15 Wiki-exploration: beyond Wikipedia... November 15
November 16 How to turn links to disambiguation pages orange November 16
November 17 Fansites, forums, & other web page articles November 17
November 18 How to provide a Google search in a link November 18
November 19 User Sub Pages November 19
November 20 A comprehensive index for editors November 20
November 21 Welcome to Wikipedia! November 21
November 22 Making the editbox more visually pleasing November 22
November 23 Permission requests November 23
November 24 Lead Section Size November 24
November 25 Try to see it my way! November 25
November 26 Pick from a list of template parameter choices November 26
November 27 World of fiction November 27
November 28 Same titles, different meanings November 28
November 29 Brilliant pictures November 29
November 30 Undoing edits November 30

December maintenance

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Tips library
December 1 No copies of primary sources December 1
December 2 Dates in Wikipedia articles December 2
December 3 Find stubs and expand them December 3
December 4 How to look at the changes to an article December 4
December 5 How to customize your signature December 5
December 6 When to use external links December 6
December 7 How to adjust the height of your edit window December 7
December 8 How to add a picture to an article December 8
December 9 How to skip scrolling and clicking December 9
December 10 Wikipedia etiquette = Wikiquette December 10
December 11 Section editing December 11
December 12 What writing style to use December 12
December 13 Where to write about current events December 13
December 14 Link articles to their foreign-language counterparts December 14
December 15 Advice for parents December 15
December 16 Automating tasks on Wikipedia December 16
December 17 Wikipedia needs pictures. How you can help... December 17
December 18 Accuracy, quality and peer review December 18
December 19 What can be included in Wikipedia? December 19
December 20 Freedom of speech and profanity December 20
December 21 Cannot find what you are looking for? December 21
December 22 Why create an account? December 22
December 23 Your user page December 23
December 24 Wikimedia has mailing lists December 24
December 25 Upgrade Recent Changes in my preferences December 25
December 26 Watching for changes December 26
December 27 If you have privileged access to web pages... December 27
December 28 Help test the MediaWiki software December 28
December 29 Troubleshooting Wikipedia's look and feel with skins December 29
December 30 Come visit the Teahouse December 30
December 31 Not everything that is true is verifiable December 31

Tip Suggestion

Advice For New Editors Don't be nervous about editing Wikipedia. Wikipedia was founded so that everyone can edit and contribute. As long as you're making good-faith edits, you'll be fine. Just be yourself!

(February 17) – Show page in mobile view while browsing the desktop site – Done

 Done – Idea:


Tip would replace redundant tip: Tip of the day/February 17 – How to plant a CategoryTree!


Show page in mobile view while browsing the desktop site

Mobile view sidebar from the desktop
Click for larger view

This gadget option (for Vector skin) shows the desktop page in a mobile view sidebar while browsing the desktop site.

Enable this mobile view in your Gadgets section of your Preferences. Check on (Green tickY) the box for: Mobile sidebar preview – Show page in mobile view while browsing the desktop site, then scroll to bottom of page and save your changes.

There is a Smartphone shaped icon located in the top bar of tabs. Press the Smartphone icon to toggle the mobile view on and off. The expanded screenshot here is highlighted with a red box and arrow for illustrative purposes.

You can also turn off the mobile view by pressing the white-X in the black button at the bottom of the Smartphone frame. The Smartphone frame includes its own scrollbar independent of the Desktop scrollbar.

Read more:
Wikipedia:Gadget


Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 10:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


  • Discuss – 
Note: – Moved February 16 to February 17. Need to run tips for Feb. 14, 15 & 16 together.  JoeHebda (talk)  20:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Checkingfax – Made changes to this tip to clarify. Question: can the red circle & red arrow in the screenshot be made larger so as to be visible without clicking the screenshot? Thanks for this tip, very helpful. Cheers!  JoeHebda (talk)  13:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist and JoeHebda: I uploaded a new image to the Commons with a larger arrow and linked it to this tip proposal. Please discuss. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:09, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

* Testing

Checkingfax and The Transhumanist – I tested this tip & it does not work for me. I'm using Modern skin with Chromodo browser. Wondering if there are additional Preference settings needed?  JoeHebda (talk)  13:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
JoeHebda Did you purge your Preferences page? Also, purge the page you are viewing. Did you try it on an article page? If so, try creating a new Phabricator ticket. Be sure to bookmark your Phabricator ticket so you can get right back to it. When you login in to Phabricator, ignore the fill-in-the-blanks login, and go down to the MediWiki login with the Flowered button. Be sure to birddog the page and to birddog your email so you can reply quickly to any questions the Phab team has for you. Cheers! PS: Try using your default web browser to and see if that makes a difference. {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Checkingfax: – Do not see any Purge option on Preference page, however I did logout, & shutdown Win7 pc; then ran test on Linux machine with Firefox browser & still not seeing the mobile view icon. Sorry, I don't know anything (never used) Phabricator. Is that like Village Pump Technical? At VPT archives, search for mobile view I did see mention that sometimes that feature may be gone/missing for 2 or 3 days or more before being fixed. My concern now is whether additional editors are having this same issue? Also, should we even go-live with this given not working? Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  21:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hi JoeHebda. Phabricator is where they actually build and fix things.

Probably the easiest thing is for you to add a purge tab to your pages per this from WP:Purge:

Gadgets
There are also two gadgets that can add a purge tab or link to every page. These may be found in the Gadgets section of your Wikipedia Preferences, under "Appearance": (1) "Add a "Purge" option to the top of the page, which purges the page's cache" and (2) "Add a clock to the personal toolbar that displays the current time in UTC and provides a link to purge the current page". The "purge" option of (1) is one of the options in the drop-down menu to the left of the Search box in Vector skin, but a tab in MonoBook skin.

The show page in mobile/desktop gadget works for me every time.

Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Checkingfax – Now have Purge showing on toolbar per above instructions. Had to create the common.js, copy & paste from example; logout; completely shutdown browser & startup again. When in Preferences, no Purge option shows. Still not seeing mobile view icon on toolbar....  JoeHebda (talk)  22:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi JoeHebda. The extra .js cruft is just to change the label name of the Purge button (optional) and does not affect the function of the Purge button. I would suggest "creating a new task" at Phabricator. Clicking that flowered WikieMedia button near the bottom of the logon page should log you on with your Wikipedia credentials. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi JoeHebda. When you create a Phabricator task and get a task number (in the format of T12345) you can post a template here in this format to track the task: {{tracked|T12345}} (with the 4 curly braces).
Be sure to put it on a brand new line or it will corrupt its view. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Created TaskManiphest T126553 there & bookmarked as you mentioned. Thanks. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  22:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Checkingfax and The Transhumanist

* Discussion points:

  1. On the screenshot, right side, within the iphone window, upper left corner, there is a "TW" showing. Is that for Twinkle? And is that needed to make Mobile sidebar preview work?
  2. In my reading various pages, I wound up over at [1], and had to change my Preferences because it was set to Vector vs. Modern skin. Are there any patches for Custom CSS or Custom Javascript that need to be included to fix Mobile sidebar preview?
  3. For Gadgets, I noticed that Mobile sidebar preview is listed under section Testing and development, so does that mean it has not yet been officially deployed? At MediWiki – Gedgets, there is not a "Testing and development" section.
  4. Are there any special tweakings needed to activate Mobile sidebar preview? Browser or Windows system?
  5. Are there additional editors with this problem of Mobile sidebar preview icon missing?
  6. Should this tip be moved forward into March (or TBD – date to be determined)?
  7. An alternate tip idea for February 17 might be What is Phabricator?

Looking forward to a solution. And BTW, when I searched for WP:Phabricator it redirects to Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests. Learning something new every day. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  13:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi JoeHebda.
  1. That TW is actually on my computer screen behind the iPhone. The iPhone acts like Windows Aero in that things behind the iPhone border show through. The search box is on my screen too and shows through the iPhone border. That way the iPhone border does not block anything useful on my screen. The iPhone pushes everything else off to the side. The funny thing is the iPhone can be enabled on a SmartPhone too if you have the Desktop view enabled when you're on a SmartPhone. Weird.
  2. I enabled Mobile sidebar preview in Gadgets so it should work across all skins. I do run the Vector skin.
  3. There is a Testing and development section listed here.
  4. The only tweak I made was to purge the page.
  5. I have not heard of any problems with this Gadget.
  6. I think we should roll it out so more editors can help in Testing and developing it.
  7. What is Phabricator is a great idea for a tip. Go ahead and take the slot if you want to.
The best way I have have found to get to Phabricator without having to login again is to bookmark a Task and go right to that, or click on a previous task with a task tracker widget. Paging The Transhumanist. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 14:03, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Checkingfax – Success!Well, sort of; it works for me with Vector skin, but not for Modern skin.  JoeHebda (talk)  14:57, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

* Phabricator

Hi JoeHebda. I am sure the folks at Phabricator would apprecitate a bug report on that. The scroll bar and clickable links on that thing are trippy! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 15:07, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Checkingfax – Only works with Vector skin. At Pref-Appearance-Skins, I did Preview on all of them & fails on all except Vector. Will attempt Phabricator report...I have to leave in 10 & gone for a while, so wish me luck! ;-)  JoeHebda (talk)  15:19, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Greetings Checkingfax – At the Phabricator task T126553 there is an update describing the error they found, and the user who wrote the javascript. This is way beyond me so should this be taken to WP:VPT?  JoeHebda (talk)  20:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Checkingfax and The Transhumanist – At the top of this section, I added a suggested shorter tip title:

Mobile view sidebar from the desktop

In addition, if this js error is not fixed by Feb. 17, I think the tip should include something like "The Mobile view sidebar option is known to work with Vector skin only. Report any error to ......... ."

 JoeHebda (talk)  20:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi JoeHebda. I experimented previously with a shorter tip-title but then went back to the full name of the Gadget since the shorter tip-title name left me short on knowing what the Gadget does.

* Javascript error

Yes, Phab is saying we have to pursue with WP:VPT and/or with Brion, the co-developer. I left a message on Brion's page and pinged him on his (WMF) account too. If you file a trouble report with VPT be sure to hang the Phabtracker template on it so they can see what we have tried so far and so they can see the error code that the Phab team found. I tried the Modern skin to no avail too. I know how to get to the Developer Console to see the error code but I could not find the error in the list of errors in the Console. Do a Google search to see how to view the Developer Console in Chromodo. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:36, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi @Checkingfax: – To get to console, I just Right click anywhere (usually under open left column) and choose Inspect element. It brings up inspector menu bar & one choice is Console. Beyond that, all of this is 100-percent out of my field of knowledge. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  21:52, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I did a ce on tip above, adding a lead sentence to clarify shorter tip title. Hope this helps.  JoeHebda (talk)  22:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
For this tip, I hilighted parts of discussion above prior to reporting at VPT (which I will do next).  JoeHebda (talk)  13:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

* Village pump – Technical

Reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Reporting: Gadget only works with Vector skin, javascript error.  JoeHebda (talk)  13:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

* User scripts

Posted a message at Wikipedia talk:User scripts#Fix needed: Gadget only works with Vector skin, script error pointing to VPT for details. There are over 400 watchers & hoping to find a script expert who can update to work with all skins.  JoeHebda (talk)  19:56, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

  •  Done – Updated TOTD Chrono(sched.queue), Alpha list, Tips library.  JoeHebda (talk)  22:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk pages are not subject to MoS suggestions

Hi @JoeHebda and The Transhumanist: I want to get a few things out of the way before I post my next tip Idea:

  1. MoS is a guideline, not a policy; even policy is trumped by the 5-pillars.
  2. Talk pages are NOT subject to MoS.
  3. Talk pages allow subpages; MoS for articles does not.
  4. Talk pages allow threading; MoS for articles does not.
  5. Talk pages allow hiding of text; MoS for articles does not.
  6. Talk pages allow links in section titles; MoS for articles does not.
  7. Section headings should not be modified because it can break incoming links; if modified, provide an {{anchor}} link.
  8. Etc.

For starters, I feel it would be helpful to make the section title for tip-ideas on this talk page to match verbatim the way the tip will be entered into the tip library, including a link; no need to reinvent the wheel.

Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 01:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

That's a lot for one tip. Perhaps drop 1, 7, and 8, and make it about talk pages only. The Transhumanist 22:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi The Transhumanist. It is not a tip‍—‌it was intended to be an in-house message. But, I guess it could be smoothed in to be a tip! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:45, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

WMF API "improvements" and VisualEditor proposal

@JoeHebda and The Transhumanist: Hover your mouse on the contributions link in your links ribbon and you will see one of the new changes on the server. Then click on the link. There are other such changes around or coming. We will have to adapt the tips to these changes.

I also noted changes to the Page → Analysis → Traffic Report if you have More tools enabled in Preferences. I hear the updated WMF API has the potential to bring us some new analysis tools as well and that many of the legacy tools we are used to will be retired and replaced by new tools.

Also, going forward I would propose that we devote most of our efforts to filling in the remaining tip date holes with tips slanted toward those editors using the VisualEditor. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:20, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Tip idea (draft)

Idea:

(draft) Please pile on:


Using subpage talk pages as scratchpads

When creating a new article in your user namespace, create an article subpage first, and then use the subpage to craft your article in, and use the talk page of the subpage as a scratchpad to list all your notes and references to build out the article with. Using the subpage talk page is also a good place to centralize any discussion regarding the build out. You can link to the subpage from your main user page, and you can bookmark it.

To create a subpage, simply put a forward slash ( / ) after your user space name in the long URL in your browser, add the desired article name, and hit the ↵ Enter key. At the next window click on the link to start a new page. Save your changes. Click on the talk page tab to create that page.


Credit to: Mendaliv for this great idea. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:51, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Comments:
    • This is really the way to do it if you like to move your drafts out to mainspace rather than copy-paste the completed draft, since the early revisions of a userspace draft look kind of dumb if it gets filled with lots of notes to self, assorted references that ultimately go unused, and the like. An example where I've done this is User:Mendaliv/surplus-lines insurance (which I swear I'll finish and move into mainspace someday). —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 22:30, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
    • Support. This is a great idea! The early revisions of one of my drafts went through a stage where it looked very unprofessional. ([2]]) I'd like to avoid that problem. Chickadee46 (talk|contribs) 21:40, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Archiving the tips marked as done

Archiving tips marked as done to reduce talk page clutter. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 06:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Updated TOTD: Janary 18

Greetings, While reading at Teahouse, I responded with a wikilink to Users Search box for users by name or official capacity. For January 18th TOTD How to easily recall a username, I added this same wikilink to the list. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Updated 3 signature-related Tips

Greetings, While responding to a WP:TH (Teahouse) question, I found Wikipedia:Signature tutorial page. So I added a wikilink for this tutorial to the Read more section of these tips:

  1. Wikipedia:Tip of the day/June 30 – Custom signatures
  2. Wikipedia:Tip of the day/November 6 – Advanced signatures
  3. Wikipedia:Tip of the day/December 5 – How to customize your signature

Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, JoeHebda and The Transhumanist. A while back I was going to conjoin those three tips but there was no urgency so I tabled it. I did however create a sandbox for us to work on it here.
I listed the three tips as they existed back then, and then created a monster hybrid version of all three. The hybrid version is at the bottom and needs a good trim.
So, Joe, you could add that link to the hybrid version, do some editing, The Transhumanist can join in, as will I, and when we have a hybrid version we can retire the other three versions. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 17:40, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Hey, Checkingfax and The Transhumanist – At the Checkingfax Sandbox above, I propose another option. I really like the numbered list of three signature methods. Just because of the sheer size of this tip, I think it's more practical to divide in half & present on two days in sequence. Please see that example & discussion and add your thoughts. JoeHebda • (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

TIP IDEA (draft): Citation templates

Bumping thread for 365 days. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Idea:


The various citation templates

There are many citation templates that can be used for references in articles and on talk pages. The super majority are what is known as CS1 or CS2 compliant. Here is a list of the CS1 ones:

You can add the above templated list to your user page by adding the following code to your user page (including the four curly braces):
{{Citation Style 1|state=expanded}} (if you removed the state=expanded parameter, the template will autocollapse).

There are a few other citation templates around that are not CS1 compliant. One of them is: {{cite archive}}

More info: Wikipedia:Citing sources#Citation templates and tools


Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 17:56, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


  • Comments:

How Stop Unwanted/unneeded archiving?

Greetings Checkingfax – Today, the updates I placed here were archived & I had to do an Undo. At View history I find:

12:32, 6 May 2016‎ Checkingfax (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (64,943 bytes) (+1)‎ . . (increase archive interval to 180 days to allow tip ideas to fruit)

Since I really know very little of Archiving, I'm asking for your help. What needs to be done to insure that this Lowercase sigmabot III will not archive parts of this Talk page? Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 02:41, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, JoeHebda. All the parameters and their values look proper but since it is causing trouble I removed the value in algo= to see if that would stop auto-archiving. I can do one-click archiving (1CA) whenever things get cluttered. I am not a fan of auto-archiving because sometimes threads need more time to percolate than 7,14,30, 60, or even 90 days allows. Sometimes too they are needed as sort of an FAQ for new readers of an article or talk page so they can get up to speed on what has already been on the table for discussion. Let me know if it glitches again. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 05:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Revision needed re: "Preventing Markup Glitches"?

The June 10 Tip suggests that editors avoid glitches in table-based pages by using Internet Explorer to build their pages: "If a page views properly in IE, then the chances are greater that it will display properly in other browsers, rather than the other way around."

Should this tip be revised or replaced? Now that Microsoft has come out with its Edge browser, support for IE is likely to end (if it hasn't already ended). Perhaps before the tip comes up again next year, someone could look into this.Eddie Blick (talk) 02:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


* Discussion:

Asking for help, July 2016 tip updates

(July 6) - Wikipedia's Manual of Style

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/July 6 - Navigate faster using Wikipedia shortcuts

(Note: duplicate of March 21, September 21, October 15 tips)

Tip title: Wikipedia's Manual of Style

The Manual of Style (abbreviated as MoS or MOS) is the style guide for all Wikipedia articles. Its goal is to make using Wikipedia easier and more intuitive by promoting clarity and cohesion. Style and formatting should be consistent within an article based on the MOS.

The shortcut to the main MOS guideline page is WP:MOS. To add the MOS template to your user or talk page, place {{style}} on there.

Any suggestions for improvement or changes to the MOS guideline begins with discussion and consensus at the MOS talk page.

  • See also:

Simplified Manual of Style


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 15:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

Made some changes above. Hope you like them. (BTW, good to see you again). The Transhumanist 17:59, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 22:05, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

(July 19) - Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/July 19 - Preview tomorrow's Featured Article (Note: duplicate of January 19 tip)

Tip title: Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia


Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia is a list of insights about Wikipedia specifically targeted at people who have limited or no prior experience with the project (such as journalists, new editors, and new readers).

These explanations should not surprise experienced editors but will hopefully help the rest of the world to shape an informed opinion of our work.

See also:
Ten things you may not know about images on Wikipedia


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:46, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

(July 20) - How to make a table on a page

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/July 20 - User scripts

(Note: duplicate of October 8 tip)

Tip title: How to make a table on a page


Using the Wikipedia text editor:

  1. Click on "Advanced" at the top of the editing box
  2. Click on Vector toolbar insert table button.png icon
  3. Add data into cells, rows or columns
  4. Provide an edit summary and save your work

Another box will appear allowing you to set up the number of rows and columns and style of the table.

Using the Visual Editor:

  1. Click on "Insert" near the top of the page
  2. Click on "Table"
  3. Click on each cell or drag across multiple cells
  4. Merge, add or delete cells as needed
  5. Click on "Properties" to assign properties to cells, rows, or columns
  6. Insert data into cells, rows or columns
  7. Provide an edit summary and save your work


See also:
Table help




Note: Credit for above tip from Ikhtiar H (talk) 10:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC) answer at WP:THQ.

If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:46, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

  • Above tip was updated: 03:09, 1 July 2016‎ Checkingfax.

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

(July 25) - Wikipedia in brief

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/July 25 - Working on the Main page (Note: duplicate of March 30, May 30 tips)

Tip title: Wikipedia in brief


The Wikipedia in brief page provides a concise explanation of the online encyclopedia's purpose.

Wikipedia aims to be a neutral compilation of verifiable, established facts.

This basic information is valuable to everyone: readers, editors, journalists and the general public.

See also:
Wikipedia:Five pillars
Wikipedia Introduction


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 16:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

(July 30) - Wikipedia's Quick directory

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/July 30 - Create links faster using tricks (Note: duplicate of March 19, September 19 tips)

Tip title: Wikipedia's Quick directory

The Quick directory is a handy directory of key pages throughout Wikipedia, with emphasis on interaction between members of the community.

Topics covered include:

  • Bureaucracy
  • Dispute resolution
  • For power users
  • Learning the wiki way
  • The best of Wikipedia
  • The worst of Wikipedia
  • Wikilove and appreciation
  • Wikipedia laughs

See also:
Wikipedia directories


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 15:47, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

July cleanup of Tips library

At WP:Tips for July, I removed a duplicate (replaced tip) of July 13, and added these missing tips:

The above is to document periodic maintenance which needs to be done in order to keep the Tips library "in-sync" with the TOTD schedule queue. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

(August 4) - Articles for Creation (AFC) process

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/August 4 - Help reduce the Wikipedia backlog (Note: duplicate of November 4 tip)

Tip title: Articles for Creation (AFC) process

When you create an article through Wikipedia's Articles for Creation process, it creates a draft in the Drafts area. The purpose of AFC process is to help new editors learn how to write better articles.

If accepted, your draft can be a valuable contribution to the encyclopedia. Wikipedia is 15 years old and has well over five million articles. The vast majority of those articles never went through AFC which is only a few years old.

AfC works as a peer review process in which registered editors can either help create an article submitted or decline the article because it is unsuitable for Wikipedia. To nominate an existing draft or user sandbox for review at Articles for Creation, add the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or sandbox page. The AFC process allows others to review the draft when you're ready and to create the article for you if it's suitable.

See also: Wikipedia Cleanup


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 23:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

* Note: credit to Cullen328 and Gestrid for portions above from Teahouse answers.

  • Actually, going through the AFC form at WP:AFC creates a pre-filled "Edit source" form with a button that says "Submit this draft for review." Also note that I'm technically taking a wiki break right now. The only reason I saw this is because I was looking something up and saw the ping notification. If you want to see what I mean, create a draft that way. -- Gestrid (talk) 01:41, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment The "your draft is much better than a stub" part is not necessarily true. At AFC we do accept stubs, as long as they comply with the minimum Notability and Verifiability standards. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:09, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Dodger67 for the info. I have edited-out (above) the mention of stub. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 13:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

(August 17) - Article size

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/August 17 - Please sign your name on talk pages (Note: duplicate of February 29, March 12, October 7 tips)

Tip title: Article size

What is an appropriate length for a Wikipedia article? This is discussed at Article length. An article can be as long as 10,000 words or more, if there are enough sources on the topic to provide for that much content. Undoubtedly there are articles that reach 20,000 words. The recommended maximum length is around 100kB of text. There is no standard for minimum length, an acceptable stub article could be as short as three or four sentences.

If you look at the menu on the left-hand side of any page on Wikipedia, there is a link to Page information. Clicking on that link shows lots of information about the page including it's total size as well as how often it has been viewed. There is also this tool - you just copy and paste the text into there, and it counts it for you.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

Good tip. Strange thing is, I haven't used this feature in years. I was surprised that the tip mentioned it shows how many views a page has gotten. That would be incredibly useful, so I tried it on Outline of Star Trek, Geology, and United States. Nowhere on any of the 3 data pages did it report how many views the page got. Just a heads up. The Transhumanist 22:30, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

* Note: credit to Joseph2302, Rojomoke, Liz, White Arabian Filly and Dodger67 for portions above from Teahouse answers.

* Comment: for The Transhumanist – Strange about the pageviews. For me Geology and US work Ok. For the Star Trek one only the far right column shows, so I suggest if you could report at WP:VPT so that they can fix (it might be a bug). I also did several "Random article" and they all have good page views. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. For Geology, the following items are displayed. I don't see where you are picking up "page views":
  • Display title
  • Default sort key
  • Page length (in bytes)
  • Page ID
  • Page content language
  • Page content model
  • Indexing by robots
  • Number of page watchers
  • Number of page watchers who visited recent edits
  • Number of redirects to this page
  • Counted as a content page
  • Wikidata item ID
What items come before and after "page views" in the page information listing that you see for Geology? The Transhumanist 00:45, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Down at the very bottom of the page, look for External tools section title
  • Revision history search
  • Revision history statistics
  • Edits by user
  • Page view statistics ( here, this one )
  • WikiChecker
JoeHebda • (talk) 01:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 15:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 4) - Guestbooks

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 4 - Supercharge your browser (Note: duplicate of March 4 tip)

Tip title: Guestbooks

Wikipedia Guestbooks, according to Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales, "can help build a spirit of friendliness and co-operation, and help people get to know each other as human beings". All Wikipedia users are welcome to create a guestbook and give permission to other users to sign it. However, creating a guestbook is also a privilege; many users have been blocked just due to begging for someone to sign their guestbook.

Guestbook cautions

  • Do not beg others to sign your guestbook. Users eventually will come to see your user page, and many will click your guestbook and sign it without being asked.
  • Never ask a user to sign your guestbook by posting that message on a talk page.
  • Be patient. Users will eventually come. After all, you should not be here only to see who signed your guestbook...
  • You are here to build an encyclopedia: Do not spend your WikiTime only signing guestbooks. It may be fun, but users may see you as a person not here to contribute.
  • Guestbooks are not a soapbox.

If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

* Notes: credit to The Pancake of Heaven! for creating WP:Guestbooks. This tip is a spinoff from a WP:THQ question about guestbooks. Thank you to Gestrid and Robert McClenon for your TH answers dated 06:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment: Here's the Teahouse Question that was asked. -- Gestrid (talk) 00:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 19:45, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 6) - Subject bar template

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 6 - Use the Article Wizard to easily create new articles (Note: duplicate of March 6 tip)

Tip title: Subject bar template

The Subject bar template is intended be placed at the end of an article, after the References or External links and before any navboxes and categories. It offers an variant to several floating box templates that link to books, portals, and Wikipedia's sister projects but also typically cause formatting issues because of their size and alignment.

The template's documentation contains several examples where links to books, portals and sister projects are shown in various combinations, all within the one Subject bar template. It offers an alternative to the multiple variations of portal templates that may appear in the article's "See also" section.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 23:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion: * Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:11, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 8) - Wikipedia Search box - advanced

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 8 - How to get a list of a page's subpages (Note: duplicate of March 8 tip)

Tip title: Wikipedia Search box - advanced

Wikipedia special search box
Special search box just for Search, with the general search domains listed below. Click on one to search that domain.
Some Wikipedia simplified search options
Clicking on Advanced shows the namespaces of the wiki. Check namespaces to set either your current or your default search domain.

There are numerous advanced Search engine features available to help locate what you are looking for within Wikipedia.


Read more:

Help:Searching
Search engine (computing)
Wikipedia industrial-powered search



If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 00:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion:

I added "Wikipedia industrial-powered search", which is a link to another tip. ;) The Transhumanist 14:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 10) - Biography articles needing attention

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 10 - Where to post requests (Note: duplicate of March 10 tip)

Tip title: Biography articles needing attention

For a biography article that needs improvements, add template: {{cleanup biography}}. This template places the article into Category:Biographies with insufficient biographical information where editors who are interested in biographical articles can find them.

For a biography article that needs improvements, on the article's talk page, add the attention parameter to the "WikiProject Biography".

For example:

{{WikiProject Biography |living=no |class=Stub
|attention=yes
|listas=Franklin, Benjamin }}

This places the article into Category:Biography articles needing attention.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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"Clean up" and "insufficient biographical information" mean two different things. "Clean up" can refer to needing wikification, copy-editing, or fixing some other mess on the page. "Insufficient information" means the article needs further content added — material that isn't even there yet to clean up.

The template is awkward, and may cause confusion. By extension, the tip may also create confusion, by advising to post a notice that says "clean up needed" that really means something else. I don't think the tip can be fixed without fixing the template first. The Transhumanist 14:00, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

* Agree: Yes, The Transhumanist, I see how this can be confusing. Now I will "ce the heck" above, strikout the template part so that the new tip will focus on tagging WP Bio articles needing attention. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:46, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 14) - Wikipedia Database reports

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 14 - How to create a new page (Note: duplicate of March 14 tip)

Tip title: Wikipedia Database reports

The Wikipedia Database reports are produced from the search queries of MediaWiki.

These reports help users by providing them with utility reports, used by community members to improve the encyclopedia (e.g., Untagged stubs) and statistical reports, which have past and present informational value (e.g., Page count by namespace).

Please discuss the current reports or suggest a new report on the talk page.

See also: Wikimedia Labs service


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 23:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed tip: How to use Wikipedia offline: xowa

How to use Wikipedia Offline: xowa

There is a way to have Wikipedia loaded on your computer so that you can view it when you don't have access to the Internet. It's called xowa, and it's compatible with Microsoft Windows, OSX, Linux and Android.

xowa allows users to download and import their own copy of Wikipedia using official database dumps, or by special hosted database files specifically created for use within Xowa. The application is designed to accurately display Wikipedia content through its own built-in browser, or by an internal hosted web server which allows users to access content using a browser of their own choice.

xowa can load and display multiple wikis. It is not limited to just Wikipedia.

For instructions on how to download and install it, see the official xowa webpage.

Read more: Wikipedia:FAQ/Forking
Wikipedia:Database download
MediaWiki


I just loaded the thing. It works great. I hope you like the tip. I copied most of it from the article. The Transhumanist 20:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

* Discussion:

Greetings The Transhumanist – Interesting. About the only suggestion would be to add a "Read more:" to Size of Wikipedia to give readers an idea of how large a download. I am on a very slow (1Mb) DSL "internet-lite" connection. I would think the download would take weeks (impossible) to complete. BTW until Aug.1 I will have very limited internet access. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:03, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

At one megabyte per second, it takes about 3 hours. My connection was a little less than 300Kb per second, and the download took about 12 hours, plus an hour and a half for the software to finish the install. Was worth it though. The Transhumanist 20:32, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi The Transhumanist – Wondering if the above "Ref" can be fixed or changed so it does not appear at the bottom of this talk page? Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 21:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
removed  Done The Transhumanist 22:16, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
@JoeHebda: What duplicate tip in the scheduling queue do you think this one should replace? The Transhumanist 19:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: Looks like September 5 would be a good one, unless you have a diferent date in mind. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 Done - tip in place for September 5. Also added it to the chrono list, the alpha list, and the tip library page. Did I miss anything? The Transhumanist 18:11, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: – Thanks. For the last step, I updated the September maintenance section (above on this talk page) for the new Sept. 5 tip. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 20:04, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Problem with Tip of the Day:Books

The Wikipedia:Books page contains a message that begins: "WARNING: The Book Creator software has been crippled since it was rebuilt in 2014, the management process is inactive, and no fixes are in sight." Perhaps the Tip of the Day needs to be replaced -- or at least modified to show that the book operation is problematic. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Teblick (Eddie Blick) for reporting this. For now, I have ce the July 29 Tip of the day. You might need to Purge to see the updated tip. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 19:12, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi JoeHebda! Thanks for taking care of that. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

(September 16) - Featured world of Wikipedia

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 16 - Do you need administrator assistance? (Note: duplicate of March 16 tip)

Tip title: Featured world of Wikipedia

While browsing through Wikipedia, you may have clicked on Featured content from the left menu. Featured content represents the best of Wikipedia, including articles, pictures, and other contributions that showcase excellent results of the collaborative efforts of Wikipedia. Here is the list for each of these features.

Featured content:


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:55, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Internet-group-chat.svg * Discussion: * Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 19:43, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


(September 18) - Difference between wikiprojects and portals?

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 18 - Cite your sources (Note: duplicate of March 18 tip)

Tip title: Difference between wikiprojects and portals?

What is the difference and preference for portals as opposed to wiki projects?

  • WikiProjects are for editors to discuss article editing. WikiProjects are linked in talk pages with WikiProject banners like {{WikiProject Politics}} for example, but not in articles.
  • Portals are mainly for readers and can be linked in articles with {{Portal}} in an article's See also sections.

There may or may not be a WikiProject and a portal for the same subject.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 17:52, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Note:: credit to Situphobos and PrimeHunter for discussion (10 July 2016) of above at the Teahouse.

* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 23:40, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 24) - Main page - Did you know

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 24 - Transclusion vs. Substitution (Note: duplicate of March 24 tip)

Tip title: Main page - Did you know

Wikipedia:Did you know... is a section you can see on the Main Page. Wikipedia:Did you know (WP:DYK) is the project page for the "Did you know" section.

The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section. For the discussion page see WT:DYK.

Beginners should consult this Did You Know glossary if they don't understand any of the terms used. Beginners may like to start by looking at a summary of our many rules: this provides links to pages with more detailed explanations (which in turn may link to even more detailed pages).

See also:
Did you know/Onepage
Did you know/Supplementary guidelines


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 18:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 26) - Tagging pages for problems

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 26 - SuggestBot is a fun way to pick pages to edit (Note: duplicate of March 26 tip)

Tip title: Tagging pages for problems

Tagging pages for problems

"Tags" are often used to indicate problems. Some Wikipedia editors object to the practice of tagging instead of fixing, but there is value in pointing out an article's problems. Tagging allows editors to specialize, teaches editors and warns readers about subpar or problematic content. It is better if people solve the problems they encounter themselves, but not everyone may be able to. Editors are sometimes obliged to justify inclusion of tags, such as in the case of Template:POV.

Constructive criticism given in a civil, respectful manner is a vital part in a collaborative project like Wikipedia, and it should be welcomed rather than discouraged. Wikipedia values contributions from everyone—novices and experts alike. It is important to listen to readers who find an article biased, confusing or unconvincing. They might not have the expertise to fix those problems, but the fact that they report them probably means that an article needs improvement.

See also:
Tag bombing
Responsible tagging


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 7) - Article construction stages

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 7 - Please fill-in edit summaries (Note: duplicate of February 9 tip)

Tip title: Article construction stages

There are Wikipedia editors who prefer to begin writing a new article "offline" using a Text editor on their own local device prior to posting the content to Wikipedia.

In a nutshell, the article construction stages would follow this path:

Read more:
Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 9) - Good article reassessment

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 9 - Becoming an Administrator (Note: duplicate of March 9 tip)

Tip title: Good article reassessment

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment (GAR) is a process primarily used to determine whether an article that is listed as good article (GA) still merits its good article status according to the good article criteria, and to delist it if not.

There are two types of reassessment: individual reassessment and community reassessment. Where possible, editors should conduct an individual reassessment, while community reassessment should be used if delisting is likely to be controversial.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 01:06, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

TIP - IRC channel

Need help with editing Wikipedia? Well, did you know that we have an IRC channel to help you with editing? #wikipedia-en-help connect, connect today! Don't want to go on IRC? Then come over toThe Teahouse today.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zppix (talkcontribs) 16:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)


Thankyou Zppix for contributing above tip. I did take the liberty of adding IRC channel to the section title. When I checked at Tips library, I see that for Wikipedia:Tip of the day/February 5 the topic is Getting real-time help via IRC (Internet Relay Chat). I have not used chat & have to admit I know very little about IRC. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 00:06, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

(September 11) - Article deletion process

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 11 - How to make links look the way you want (Note: duplicate of March 11 tip)

Tip title: Article deletion process

The Wikipedia article deletion process can be accomplished several ways. Deletion of articles from Wikipedia occurs through one of four processes.

  1. Speedy deletion involves the scrutiny of only a few people before an article is deleted. The allowable criteria for speedy-deletion are deliberately very narrow. The list of candidates for speedy deletion can be viewed at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion.
  2. Another quick method is the use of proposed deletion: simply add {{subst:prod|reason goes here}} to the top of the article. This is meant for articles where the deletion is believed to be uncontroversial, yet does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. A proposed deletion can be contested by any user by removing the {{prod}} tag within seven days, and if anyone still wants the article deleted the full Articles for deletion process is required.
  3. For unsourced articles about living persons created after 18 March 2010, adding {{subst:prod blp}} will propose the BLP for deletion. If sources are not added within 10 days, the article may be deleted.
  4. Articles which do not meet the narrow criteria for speedy deletion and whose deletion is (or might be) contested are discussed by the community through the Articles for deletion (AfD) process.

Read more:
Introduction to deletion process
Wikipedia:Deletion process


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:32, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 13) - Copyright Cleanup

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 13 - Are you lost? (Note: duplicate of March 13 tip)

Tip title: Copyright Cleanup

WikiProject Copyright Cleanup addresses copyright concerns anywhere on Wikipedia. Among its primary activities are tagging potential copyright problems for further action, assisting contributors who do not understand copyright policies, following up on contributors who have mishandled copyrighted materials, and coordinating cleanup of largescale copyright problems.

Everyone is welcome to join the project and contribute.

See also:
Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:46, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 15) - CopyPatrol Tool

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 15 - Wikipedia's top ten power tips (Note: duplicate of March 15 tip)

Tip title: CopyPatrol Tool

For copyright cleaners there is CopyPatrol, a tool from Community Tech, powered by EranBot. The tool monitors recent changes and identifies possible copyright violations.

Login with your Wikimedia account to get started. Use "Page fixed" after removing the copyright violation (or tagging for speedy deletion, if needed), or "No action needed" if there is no violation or it has already been resolved.

You can provide CopyPatrol feedback here.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 11:56, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 19) - Graphics Lab

Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Resources

Stale/Archival

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 19 - Link tricks (Note: duplicate of March 19, July 30 tips)

Tip title: Graphics Lab

The Graphics Lab is a project to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. Requests for image improvements can be added to the workshop pages: Illustrations, Photographs and Maps.

The Graphics Lab helps improve all graphical content stored on Wikimedia Commons and the English Wikipedia. For examples of work done by the Graphics Lab, see the archives of past work. For questions or suggestions, use the talk pages: Talk:Graphics Lab, Talk:Illustrations, Talk:Photographs and Talk:Maps.

Interested in helping out? Check out the uploading standards, then go to one of the workshops you are skilled at, and lend a hand. You can also add your entry to Wikigraphist abilities and yourself to Category:Wikigraphists. You can also add {{User Wikigraphist}} or {{Mbox Wikigraphist}} to your userpage.


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 15:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 18:15, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 21) - How do you pronounce that?

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 21 - Navigate faster using Wikipedia shortcuts (Note: duplicate of March 21, July 6, October 15 tips)

Tip title: How do you pronounce that?

It is helpful for Wikipedia readers to include pronounciation for words with unusual or difficult spelling. For our English Wikipedia this is especially helpful for foreign names and locations.

The {{Pronunciation needed}} template shows as [pronunciation?] and is used to request the audio or textual pronunciation. This template puts pages into Category:Articles needing pronunciation.

See also:
IPA for English
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Pronunciation
Category:Requests for audio pronunciation (English)


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 13:54, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

(September 27) - What is BRD? the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle

Idea: – New tip to replace: Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 27 - Work faster with keyboard shortcuts (Note: duplicate of March 27)

Tip title: What is BRD? the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle

The BOLD is where making bold edits is encouraged, as it will result in either improving an article, or stimulating discussion. If your edit gets reverted, do not revert again. Instead, begin a discussion with the person who reverted your change to establish consensus.

BOLD revert discuss.svg

The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and patient.

BRD doesn't work well in all situations. It is ideally suited to disputes that involve only a small number of people, all of whom are interested in making progress. There are other options, and some more suitable for other situations.

See also:
BRD Alternatives


If there are any additions or updates needed for this new tip, please discuss here. JoeHebda • (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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* Done  – New tip posted to TOTD Schedule queue, Alpha list, Tips library. JoeHebda • (talk) 15:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Problem with November 16 Tip

The Tip of the Day for November 16 suggests customizing the Google Toolbar in a browser to search within Wikipedia when the browser is on a Wikipedia page. The problem is that the Google Toolbar doesn't seem to work in any current browsers. I tried the link in the tip article in Firefox, Edge, Opera and Vivaldi. All brought up the page with a note: "Google Toolbar is not available for this browser. Requires Internet Explorer 6+ Windows XP SP3/Vista/7+" When I tried it in Chrome, a message said that the toolbar wasn't needed because its features are built into Chrome.

Perhaps someone needs to do some research on that tip before it comes up again next year. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

@Teblick: Thank you for the heads up. I've replaced it with a new tip called "How to turn links to disambiguation pages orange". The Transhumanist 08:39, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Problem with "What is Page curation?" page (February 27 tip)

Item 2 under "What is Page curation?" shows "Curation Toolbar" as a link. When I click on that link, nothing seems to happen. When I open the link in a new browser window, the "What is Page curation?" tip appears. Perhaps someone can check on the coding of that "Curation Toolbar" link. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick: Thank you for catching this. I fixed the two wiklinks to point to the correct WP page. To see the updated Tip, you may need to do "Purge" under the "More" link in order to see the updated tip. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:44, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
@JoeHebda: You're welcome! Thanks for making the corrections. The topic interests me, so I have applied to be a new page reviewer. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Problems with "Wikipedia's top ten power tips" list

Item 4: Search Wikipedia from any website leads to a page that raises a concern.The Conveniently searching Wikipedia page shows (at the bottom) "Last Change: 25-Dec-2010", making it more than six years old. The page refers to Netscape and Mozilla (both of which have been replaced by Firefox) and Internet Explorer (which has been replaced by Microsoft Edge). It shows that the bookmarklet was tested on Opera 6.0, whereas Opera now has version 43 out. I haven't checked beyond the Bookmarklet section, but those are enough problems in themselves.

Item 7: User scripts leads to a totally different page, "How to make a table on a page".

Item 10: Navigate faster using Wikipedia shortcuts leads to a totally different page, "Wikipedia's Manual of Style".

Eddie Blick (talk) 02:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick: Thank you for the heads up. The links have been updated, and the tip about the bookmarklet has too (it works in Firefox; didn't test it on other browsers though -- it's a simple JavaScript, and so it probably works on most browsers). Let me know if you find other ploblems. The Transhumanist 04:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
P.S.: Many of the duplicate tips in the collection were replaced with new tips. That means all the links in multi-tip tips need to be checked and corrected to point to the correct tip. Thanks for the tip off. The Transhumanist 04:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 Done - all collections tips checked and corrected. The Transhumanist 02:41, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Problem with "Breaking the 500-edit limit in 'View History'"

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda:The main tip seems good, but I think an error appears in Bonus tip #2. In the sentence "Just go to your browser bar and change the first 6-digits of the offset in the full URL ...", shouldn't the number be 8 digits — four for the year, two for the month, and two for the day? Eddie Blick (talk) 18:26, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick and JoeHebda: Done The instruction has been clarified. I hope "offset bonus tip" it is easier to follow now. Thank you for the heads up. The Transhumanist 02:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

As I was browsing the list of the prolifics...

I was looking over the user pages of people, starting from the top of the Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, to find entries to add to the User page Hall of Fame. As I browsed down the list, I noticed several prolific editors' user pages with the tip-of-the-day displayed. Keep up the good work! The Transhumanist 02:48, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

It's been around for 6 years, and I just came across it

I'm just starting to realize just how vast Wikipedia is.

Check this out, (Wikipedia:Styletips):

Another styletip ...


Ampersand


The ampersand (&) substitutes for the word and. In normal text, and should be used instead: January 1 and 2, not January 1 & 2. Retain ampersands in titles of works or organizations, such as The Tom & Jerry Show or AT&T. Ampersands may be used with consistency and discretion in tables, infoboxes, and similar contexts where space is limited.



Add this to your user page by typing in {{Styletips}}

Who knew? The Transhumanist 00:43, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@JoeHebda: I added them to the tip library.  Done The Transhumanist 01:05, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

The Transhumanist Thank you for this improvement! This is a great addition to the tip library. Just wondering if it might be possible to put this one into the TOTD schedule queue? Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 04:06, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
@JoeHebda: I wonder, are there any duplicates left? The Transhumanist 05:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Who knew? I knew. But, it did not occur to me to do a meld. Bravo. Cheers! PS: I just took a full stop out of the template in a place where I believe a full stop could cause unintended consequences. {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 05:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Making room for more tips

@JoeHebda and Teblick: The idea has been posed to merge the styletips scheduling queue

into the TOTD scheduling queue.

The question is, can we free up enough slots without sacrificing content?

Upon first glance one can easily notice a few tips that are duplicated. But upon closer inspection, there are quite a few redundant tips. About 10%...

I also found one obsolete tip (I think).

Without further ado, here they are...

duplicate tips

Note: no longer duplicates

tips that can be merged

TOTD for Wikipedia:Tip of the day/March 25 has wikilink to May 2 pipe tip

Obsolete tips

In conclusion

How many style tips are there?

Thirty four.

Based on the above, 35 slots can be freed up, if desired.

Whew, more than enough.

I was thinking, if we add the style tips, that their titles be prefixed with "Style tip: "

Should we move forward with this project?

Thoughts?   The Transhumanist 07:09, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

The Transhumanist, Yes, this will be a great addition to TOTD! Prior to you proposing this I had been thinking of finding a way to weed out "stale" tips (those with very few Page Views). So now that can wait until 2018 timeframe. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 00:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Update: TOTD for Spoken Wikipedia, Nov. 13.

Today, I added an external link at Spoken Wikipedia for this tip.

  • Convert Wikipedia article to voice audio

Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 03:11, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Update to TOTD navigation template

Greetings, With the Tips library updated & improved, I added a third button (Tips library) to the {{Totd nav}}. It's been a long time since I have updated any template structure so if this change is not correct, feel free to update. Thanks. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:32, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Crikey, Joe. I did not realize that my update (see thread below) was right on your coattails. I hope it helps. And likewise, please feel free to massage my efforts. Cheers! (side ping to: The Transhumanist) {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
I didn't see it at first, until my cache got purged. I like. The Transhumanist 21:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

New tip idea, info about Text-To-speech program

Today I found this from Wikipedia talk:Spoken articles and copied it here.

I use a Text-To-speech Program, it doesn't say words wrong or make mistakes.-Jack (User:Jacksalssome) (talk) 03:55, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Script:I use a Text-To-speech Program, it doesn't say words wrong or make mistakes.

This is outside my area of expertise so I welcome feedback from additional contributors. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 03:24, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Maybe he was being sarcastic. Why not find one and try it? The Transhumanist 21:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Problem with "Time-saving links: the 'pipe trick'"

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: "Read more: Links and URLs" at the bottom of the tip takes the reader to Help:Editing. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the heads up. Keep up the great monitoring. The Transhumanist 01:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Please proof read the tip templates

Hi, JoeHebda and The Transhumanist. I trimmed each tip template of a bit of redundancy because of the Tip Library button. Please check them and adjust as necessary. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:01, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Checkingfax Thankyou! :-) JoeHebda • (talk) 14:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Monthly lists of tips

I have created a list Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January with transclusions of the 31 tips in January. Are people OK with making 12 such lists? It seems helpful to the tip writers but I don't know whether you think users should only be able to see the tips one at a time. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

* Support  – PrimeHunter This may be helpful for anyone who wishes to preview an entire month worth of tips. I am happy to see that it is "generic" in that as we move tips around to different days, it will always pickup whatever is current. I did change the TOC to be horizontal which should also be helpful. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I have created the 12 lists:
PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Interlanguage links

Some tips have interlanguage links. The search insource:fa prefix:Wikipedia:Tip of the day finds many to Persian. They are mostly placed outside noinclude tags, meaning they are included in all pages displaying the tip. That seems very wrong to me. I suggest placing all of them inside <noinclude>...</noinclude> so they only appear on the tip page itself. Some of them have a colon prefix like [[:fa:..]], meaning the link is displayed inline in the page. That also seems wrong to me. Interlanguage links to other versions of the page you are viewing belong under "Languages" in the left pane. I suggest placing them all there by having no colon prefix: [[fa:..]]. If they don't have a colon then they should absolutely be placed inside noinclude. Otherwise any page displaying the tip gets a link under "Languages". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I have made the suggested changes in all relevant pages in the above search insource:fa prefix:Wikipedia:Tip of the day. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
"What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar.png The Tip of the Day Barnstar
...is hereby awarded to PrimeHunter, for an elegant fix to an annoying problem. The Transhumanist 03:51, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Question: combine TOTD schedule queue and Alpha list?

Greetings, Today I corrected a few errors in the Alpha list (manually maintained) to sync up with the Schedule Queue. Wondering if it makes sense to combine both into a sortable Wikitable? Here is an example with a few dates.

TOTD
Schedule
Queue
Tip Notes
Where to begin?
Article development
Are your hands full? (Use search box as a small but convenient clipboard)
How to make your watchlist easier to read
Digital audio support
Introduction to navigating Wikipedia
Captions
How to easily recall a username
Preview tomorrow's Featured Article also April 19, October 19
User scripts examples
Good article nominations
How to reduce or enlarge font sizes
Editing projects for school and university classes
What is Page curation?
Writing articles for The Signpost
Please sign your name on talk pages
How to plant a CategoryTree!
Test-drive your edits using a sandbox

Advantage: a single place to make a change when new tips are added or moved to different dates.

Disadvantage: Wikitable structure (complicated)

Note that I am not a wikitable expert, so there may be a better way to format than above. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 00:54, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Ooh, consolidation. Good idea! The Transhumanist 03:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm planning a suggestion to generate the tips with a template which has the formatting in one place instead of 366, and has an optional parameter to only return the tip title. This could be used for automatically updated lists of tips, and to make a small tip of the day template which only displays the title and links to the actual tip. I hope to post more this week. This is just a heads up that it may be wasted effort to work on tip formatting and lists now if my idea is adopted later. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
PrimeHunter Thanks for this info. Anything that can be done to make tip maintenance easier is great. Since I've only been on WP a few years now what you describe above sounds like "wiki-magic" to me. Is this something that can be previewed, for example, in a sandbox? I'm curious to see what this will look like & how it will work. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 02:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
I have started a new section #Automatic tip formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:06, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Question about "Motto of the day..."

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: Maybe I'm missing something. Is "→ All of a sudden, she's playing Hamlet's mother!" supposed to link to Wikipedia:Article development? Maybe the two are connected in some way that I don't see. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Teblick...
Well, Wikipedia is both an encyclopedia and a community of encyclopedia-building volunteers. With the latter, morale and mood are big factors. Editors can be a temperamental bunch. And so, some socially-minded metapedians decided to create a program to help set the mood. After reading a few of these inspirational sayings, who wouldn't feel more like editing? Or facing the wikitrolls yet again. I think there may even be some Shakespeare in there. :) If one doesn't make sense, click on purge a few times until one comes up that hits the spot!
If the whole thing still doesn't make any sense, just in case, the designers of the project linked various phrases and terms in the mottos to help pages or community pages to add some utility to the work of art. So, if you click on one of them, you get a helpful little tidbit, sort of like the tip of the day. My favorite motto from the bunch is "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." That's why we don't feed the trolls. The Transhumanist 03:28, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
P.S.: The easiest way to read a bunch of them is to go to Wikipedia:Motto of the day and press Alt+⇧ Shift+* (until you get tired of them). :) –TT

Automatic tip formatting

I have made {{totd format}} and suggest we use it for automatic tip formatting on the 366 daily pages after some testing and tweaks.

It has separate parameters for title, tip, date and read more. It means the formatting can be modified in one place instead of 366. It could also add a tip category with date sorting instead of doing it on each page. There is an optional parameter to only display the tip title. This could be used for automatically updated lists of tips, and to make a small tip of the day template which only displays the title and links to the actual tip. It can also return each of the other parameters by itself but title is the most useful.

As a live test I have used it in Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January 1 (previous revision, diff).

{{Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January 1|display=title}} only returns: "Where to begin?"

The current quotation marks are from the original tip and could be removed there.

[[Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January 1|{{Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January 1|display=title}}]] makes a piped link to the tip with the title as automatically updated display text: "Where to begin?"

PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: @The Transhumanist: After reading above it was hard for me to understand around until I did a "look-at-edit" of the January 1 tip example. Yes this template does result in cleaner tips, especially at the bottom with "stack" removal. Where there is a "more" value, is that optional? A few tips do not have any "More:" information. Will we still be able to see two lists - one by date and one alphabetical? If yes, I'm 100-percent in favor of this. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 15:44, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
more is optional. If it wasn't already then it could easily be made so. Lots of options can be added once a template is used, e.g. if we want some pages to say "See also:" like April 3 instead of "Read more:".
It should be easy to make a by day list with 366 {{Wikipedia:Tip of the day/(date)|display=title}}. With {{Sort list}} it should also be possible to make an automatically sorted list. A sortable table could also be used as you suggested in #Question: combine TOTD schedule queue and Alpha list? Do people actually use the sorted list? It might be more useful if it sorted by a keyword like "Watchlist" instead of placing "How to make your watchlist easier to read" among 48 other "How to ...". But then the 366 pages would have to specify a keyword.
In addition to cleaner code on the daily pages and consistent formatting we would get the ability to quickly modify, add or remove features in one place, e.g:
  • Make a mouseover for Prior tip and Next tip with the title of the tip.
  • Add a border similar to {{totd}} to the daily pages
  • Add a navigation template similar to {{totd month nav}} to the daily pages
PrimeHunter (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter and JoeHebda: The sorted list is used to spot duplicates. Sorting by keyword would be good if it placed duplicates next to each other so you could spot them easily. Fine brainstorming, by the way. Automatic tip formatting is an excellent improvement.The Transhumanist 20:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. There are few active tipsters so I think we are close to consensus. We cannot trust a keyword is kept the same if a tip is duplicated so I guess we should sort by the full title (although that may also change enough to sort differently).
I skimmed all tips for "Read more" or similar links. I have added an optional more heading parameter to {{totd format}} to change the default "Read more", e.g. more heading = See also.
Wikipedia:Tip of the day/March 8 and Wikipedia:Tip of the day/September 8 say "Try it now" about Special:PrefixIndex.
These have both "Read more" and "See also":
All of them only have two links. The nature of the links may sometimes be a little different but I don't think it looks good to have two separate headings for two links. {{totd format}} currently only supports one common heading but could add an option for two different if wanted. Wikipedia:Tip of the day/April 11 and Wikipedia:Tip of the day/November 24 have special headings but could easily be reformulated to avoid it.
I found 17 tips with "See also" instead of "Read more":
In some cases it looks random and in some it may have been estimated that the links are less relevant to the tip than "Read more" links, or less about reading.
A few tips like Wikipedia:Tip of the day/February 18 and Wikipedia:Tip of the day/March 22 mix bolded and unbolded text in More reading. {{totd format}} bolds the whole more parameter by default but I added an optional more unbold = yes to omit the automatic bolding and let the tip page make its own bolding. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: @The Transhumanist: IMO all of those "See also" could be changed to "Read more" just to simplify and be consistent. The same with the "bold" mentioned above, bold can be changed back to normal (not bold). Both of these variances may have happened over time with various editors doing a tip a bit differently. I myself may have done this by cloning one of those while making a new tip. Cheers JoeHebda • (talk) 12:36, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Suggested revision for tip "Super-customize your account with gadgets"

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: The last item in the bulleted list points to m:User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Regex menu framework, but that page advises, "The regex menu framework has been merged into TemplateScript, which is much more powerful and compatible with the latest MediaWiki changes." Perhaps it would be good to replace that bulleted item with one that points directly to TemplateScript. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:27, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick:@The Transhumanist: Thanks for noticing this. I have made the change, and added another line for responsiveContent Gadget as well. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 09:43, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Linking error in Time-saving links: the "pipe trick"

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: Please check the "Read more" link in Time-saving links: the "pipe trick". It leads to "Help:Editing" rather than to "Links and URLs". Eddie Blick (talk) 01:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist:@Teblick: Thanks for the alert. I changed May2 (and May 4) TOTD, "Read more" to a better wikilink. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 03:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion for List building tip

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: It might be good to add to "The third step is ..." a comment about correcting live links that lead to disambiguation pages. People who are new to editing Wikipedia articles might not realize how often a newly created link can lead to a disambiguation page rather than to a specific article. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick and JoeHebda: That reminds me... There's a gadget to display links to disambiguation pages in orange. The Transhumanist 22:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Bot request for "Popular pages"

Greetings, Today on another WikiProject (Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Popular pages) the bot issued this "Popular pages" listing. After viewing, I requested the same for "Tip of the day". From what I read, the bot starts at the beginning of each new month & runs for about 2 weeks to complete this massive task. The popular pages list will help us here with cleanup of most read pages as well as to identify "the least popular" tips. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 21:33, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The problem is, that the tips mostly get read on other pages, like the help page and community portal page. Direct visits to the tip pages is no indication of how many times they have been read. The Transhumanist 05:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Suggested addition for Go to the right desk tip

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: Should Wikipedia:Teahouse be added to the list of useful sites? It has been helpful to me as I learn about editing on Wikipedia. I think it is aimed more at relatively new users, whereas the Help site is aimed more at experienced users. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick: Go for it. The Transhumanist 05:51, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: I added it. Please take a look and see if you think the revision is all right. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Nicely done. The Transhumanist 20:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Question re: Check your work before you save, using Preview

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: Why does the link for however you prefer go to Wikimedia Preferences rather than to Wikipedia Preferences? Wouldn't the WP Preferences page be more appropriate? Eddie Blick (talk) 02:57, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixed Thank you for the heads up. The Transhumanist 05:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Added link to Placing external links sections

I added a link in this tip so that External links points to the Manual of Style's section about that topic. I thought that might be useful for people who want to delve more deeply into the subject. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:42, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Question re: Placing category tags

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: This question is sort of deja vu from a few days ago. The interlanguage links link points to a Wikimedia page, Help:Interwiki linking. Shouldn't it point to the WP Help:Interlanguage links page instead? Eddie Blick (talk) 02:19, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick: Good eye. Interlanguage links are no longer located in a page's wikicode. So, I removed mention of them from the tip. The Transhumanist 01:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Should Preventing markup glitches be replaced?

@The Transhumanist:@JoeHebda: I wonder whether this tip should be replaced. It focuses on using Internet Explorer, but use of IE is diminishing. When Windows 10 came out about two years ago, it included Edge as the built-in browser, replacing IE. Although the tip itself is sound, I wonder how many people can take advantage of its advice. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Teblick: I honestly don't know if the tip still applies. I think it was written long before IE 11. It sounds like a good idea to replace the tip. I look forward to seeing what tip you replace it with (that's the fun part). The Transhumanist 00:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Typo on tip for June 15

The tip is about the [edit] button on different sections but I believe this has changed since the tip was written as now I see [edit section] buttons next to each heading, not [edit] buttons. Mehmuffin (talk) 20:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Now a little late but it looks like all the cool kids who mention things on this page ping @The Transhumanist and JoeHebda:. Mehmuffin (talk) 20:57, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Mehmuffin, my recommendation would be to take this issue to Village Pump, Technical for help. Every section that I see has a plain [edit] to the right of that section. I have not ever seen [edit section] that you mention above. Also, within Wikipedia are you using the "Vector" skin, or one of the other ones? Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 23:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm only seeing [ edit ] also. I've never heard of it showing up as "edit section". The Transhumanist 02:04, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist and JoeHebda: Interesting, I was checking for replies from a different computer and saw these and checked, and you are indeed both correct, but as soon as I logged in they all changed to [ edit source ] buttons, although I could swear that on my usual computer they're [ edit section ], I'll check on that tomorrow and maybe ask around at the pump (I am using the default vector skin, so no dice there). Thanks for the quick reply! Mehmuffin (talk) 03:00, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
I haven't seen [edit section]. Unregistered users see [edit]. Registered users may see [edit], [edit source] or both depending on their visual editor setting at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. I think Wikipedia:Tip of the day/June 15 should continue to say [edit] and not get into preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:09, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Question: why Prior tip and Next tip not correct before Login?

Greetings, I noticed that before I login, the dates for Prior and Next tips are 3 to 4 days prior. As soon as I login it picks up the correct dates for these two buttons. Any idea of how to fix? I have tried browser "Refresh/reload" page without any luck. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 06:30, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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