Wikipedia talk:In the news

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Upcoming ITN/R suggestions (Oct–Dec)

This post attempts to highlight potential nominations that could be considered and where else to continue looking for news items. The recurring items list is a good place to start. Below is a provisional list of upcoming ITN/R events over the next few months. Note that some events may be announced earlier or later than scheduled, like the result of an election or the culmination of a sport season/tournament. Feel free to update these articles in advance and nominate them on the candidates page when they occur.

  • Early November: 2018 Japan Series
  • 6 November:
  • 7 November:
  • 18 November:
  • 24 November: Bahraini general election, 2018
  • 25 November:
  • 28 November:
  • Late November:
  • December
  • 10 December: Libyan general election, 2018
  • 16 December: Malian parliamentary election, 2018
  • 20 December:
  • 23 December: Democratic Republic of the Congo general election, 2018
  • Late December: Bangladeshi general election, 2018
  • Other resources

    For those who don't take their daily dose of news from an encyclopedia, breaking news stories can also be found via news aggregators (e.g. Google News, Yahoo! News) or your preferred news outlet. Some news outlets employ paywalls after a few free articles, others are funded by advertisements - which tend not to like ad blockers, and a fair few are still free to access. Below is a small selection:

    Unlike the prose in the article, the reference doesn't necessarily need to be in English. Non-English news sources include, but are not limited to: Le Monde, Der Spiegel and El País. Which ironically are Western European examples (hi systemic bias). Any reliable African, Asian or South American non-English source that confirms an event took place can also be used.

    Happy hunting. Fuebaey (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

    Wilmer Clemont Fields

    Wilmer Clemont Fields is marked as ready but chronologically, can we even post it if there are other RDs already posted or marked as ready that came later?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

    How many RDs can we post at the same time please? Many notable people die every week... Right now we have four RDs on the main page--I wonder if we could have a limit of 10 or more?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    User:Spencer: I will try a DYK but please read above, I wonder if we could be more generous in the number of RDs that we post?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    We would have to have 5 RDs posted to have Fields posted at this time. Expanding the number of RDs from 3 to 4 was proposed and discussed here, and it seemed like the consensus was that having four would keep the RDs in one line for most readers. I realize this isn't a very satisfactory article and you've done great work on the Fields article, but it is eligible for DYK. SpencerT•C 21:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    Yes, I've done a DYK for it...but why do we only want one line of RDs?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:54, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    The box is only so big, and has to balance with TFA. I'm sorry your article won't get any time in the RD box at ITN, but this is rarely a problem. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
    It's OK, the DYK (if it doesn't get stale...) will get some time. I have a big screen, I could do with more RDs on the main page, but that's just me.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:53, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

    Cleanup significance instructions

    This is not an attempt to change the significance criteria I just want to clean up the mess at WP:ITN#Significance.

    Proposed wording is as follows:

    Whether a topic is significant enough for inclusion in ITN is often contentious, highly subjective, and ultimately each event is discussed on its own merits. The consensus among those discussing the event is all that is necessary to decide if an event is significant enough for posting. There are no rules or guidance beyond two:

    • The event can be described as "current", that is the event is appearing currently in news sources, and/or the event itself occurred within the time frame of ITN.
    • There is consensus to post the event.

    Then remove everything else

    Everything else there, all the suggestions, all the examples, the guidelines, none of it matters because it all contradicts the two rules, and those are the only two rules we stick to consistently anyway. If removing all the other noise leads to an unmanageable torrent of hopeless nominations (it won't) we can roll back. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    • Support as nominator, obviously. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
    • A few thoughts:
      • I'd prefer to keep something about discussing each event on its own merits.
      • The bullet point about the frequency and size of updates is relevant to discussions about Ongoing - maybe it could/should be moved to its own section?
      • The "Updated content" and "Article quality" sections could do with looking at as well as there is significant overlap in their current wording. Thryduulf (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
      • A few responses:
        • It's still in there "and ultimately each event is discussed on its own merits"
        • I'm fine forklifting relevant parts to the "Ongoing" subsection, what do you have in mind?
        • Yes, they need to be merged and cleaned up. One thing at a time. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

    What do you have to do around here to get a story posted?

    The Ankara train collision has consensus to post, and has been ready to post for well over 24 hours. I know it is bad form to post a story that one has nominated, but if it isn't on the Main Page by 11:00 UTC, I will post it myself. I've already posted at WP:MPE without success. Mjroots (talk) 10:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

    I suspect that's because of traditional weekend drop in admin activity from Friday to Sunday. The same goes for Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors where weekend issues may stay unanswered for days. Brandmeistertalk 17:12, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
     Done this was already posted in Special:Diff/873830859, and lack of someone posting something isn't really something ERRORS should be fixing anyway. — xaosflux Talk 18:12, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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