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Pink Floyd

36 articles
Featured articlePink Floyd
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Good article Syd Barrett
Featured article Roger Waters
B-Class article David Gilmour
Good article Richard Wright
C-Class article Nick Mason
Good article The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Good article A Saucerful of Secrets
Start-Class article More
Good article Ummagumma
Good article Atom Heart Mother
Good article Meddle
Good article Obscured by Clouds
Featured article The Dark Side of the Moon
Featured article Wish You Were Here
Good article Animals
Good article The Wall
Featured article The Final Cut
Featured article A Momentary Lapse of Reason
C-Class article Delicate Sound of Thunder
Good article The Division Bell
Start-Class article Pulse
Start-Class article Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980–81
Good article Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd
C-Class article The Endless River
Start-Class article Why Pink Floyd...?
Start-Class article The Early Years 1965–1972
Good article "Interstellar Overdrive"
C-Class article "Arnold Layne"
Start-Class article "See Emily Play"
B-Class article "Echoes"
C-Class article "Money"
B-Class article "Shine On You Crazy Diamond"
B-Class article "Another Brick in the Wall"
C-Class article "Comfortably Numb"
Good article Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii
List-Class article Pink Floyd discography
List-Class article Pink Floyd live performances

Now, I like a challenge, and one Good Topic that has been on my radar for years is Pink Floyd. A lot of articles have been taken to GA and FA already, but there's plenty more to do and a lot of the remainder can be tackled by the same core 4-5 book sources. The articles above are the ones I think we could not possibly meet the GT criteria without - the core article itself, the band members, all the major albums (I've left off a few compilations like A Collection of Great Dance Songs but that might be a mistake), songs that were either major hits or have achieved major critical acclaim, and essential lists. My question really is, what else are we missing? The book has a lot more content, but to be frank some of the individual song articles on the lesser known albums don't really meet WP:NSONG and could be reduced to redirects (though doubtless somebody will moan). Paging the Wikipedia:WikiProject Pink Floyd regulars @Parrot of Doom:, @Pigsonthewing:, @John:, @Yeepsi: for comment. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Does anyone have any ideas about this? @The Rambling Man:, @FlightTime:, @Dr. Blofeld:? Does anyone even like Pink Floyd these days? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Mabbett does! :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: Are you asking if we should create article's of their less notable works ? - FlightTime (open channel) 23:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Not so much that as - is the list above going to be suitable for a good topic ie: if I took every article (that's not at least already there) to GA / FL, and then nominated the lot for GT, would somebody say "aha, what about 'x'"? Everything in Category:Top-importance Pink Floyd articles absolutely has to go in, but for Category:High-importance Pink Floyd articles we've got Pink Floyd World Tour 1968 which isn't particularly important, and Bob Klose who is only a footnote in Floyd's history. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:49, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
It would be easier if you just focused on their studio albums like other topics have done at Wikipedia:Good topics/Music#Discographies. That removes any possibility of any articles missing, and gives you less articles to work with, improving the chance of the topic passing its nomination.-- 21:51, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
They've been—naturally—extensively bootlegged; that article should probably be in there (or is it a list?—if so and IRC then it should be beefed up). >SerialNumber54129...speculates 12:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

17th century papal conclaves

Never done this before, so the template syntax is causing problems here, but I created a book at Book:17th century papal conclaves, which lists all of the articles that would be a part of the proposed topic. I've done 4/12 of the 17th century ones to GA, and I should have two ready for GAN within the week, bringing it up to 50% that are at GA or in progress.

Realizing that, I supposed its about time to ask questions on the technical nature of the criteria. My main question here is re: the lead article. Papal conclave is already at GA status, and seems like a good lead for the topic. In terms of feedback, do people think that would be a good lead or would it be necessary to make a featured list of the 17th century ones? @Ritchie333 and PresN: pinging the two of you since you seem to be the most active on this board. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:33, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Having reviewed the Papal conclave article, I think that a list article of 17th century papal conclaves (hence implying that a per-century division is appropriate for other papal conclaves) would really clean up and sharpen Template:Papal elections and conclaves from 1061. Seems like 10-15ish per (completed) century is a really good number per sub-topic. On the other hand, List of papal conclaves already exists and is already FL, so that might be a good parent article as well, even though it extends well beyond this specific century. Do we have precedent of one "list" article ever being used for two or more, potential or actual, constituent, discrete and non-overlapping featured/good topics? Jclemens (talk) 21:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Just using an expanded list as the lead is not uncommon; starting from the top of WP:FT I see Grade I listed buildings in Runcorn, whose lead list is actually about all of the listed buildings in the area, not just Grade I ones; it potentially could also be used for e.g. a topic on Grade II buildings in the area. I couldn't find anywhere where two topics actually used the same list as the lead, though that's likely just an artifact of how few areas actually have multiple topics. I believe prior "precedent", as far as it stretches, would be that you could use List of papal conclaves as the lead list for multiple single-century topics, though if you actually ever got every conclave promoted the topics would all get merged into a single mega-topic, as happened to the German Battleships FT. --PresN 02:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
I would suggest using List of papal elections, rather than creating a by-century sub-list, which is perhaps unlikely to pass FL as it risks being regarded as an unnecessary content fork. BencherliteTalk 07:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks all for the advice. Never done this before, so the help is appreciated. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Group 3 elements

I haven't looked too much into the process, but could Group 3 elements become a good topic? The main issue I see is that there is no consistent definition. It could include Scandium, Yttrium, Lanthanum, and Actinium, or Scandium, Yttrium, Lutetium, and Lawrencium. Or all of them? What about Unbiunium? --Hameltion (talk, contribs) 18:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Central Link light rail stations

20 articles
Good article nominee Central Link stations
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Good article nominee University of Washington station
Good article Capitol Hill station
Good article Westlake station (Sound Transit)
Good article University Street station
Good article Pioneer Square station
Good article International District/Chinatown station
Good article Stadium station (Sound Transit)
Good article SODO station (Sound Transit)
Good article Beacon Hill station (Sound Transit)
Good article Mount Baker station
Good article Columbia City station
Good article Othello station
Good article Rainier Beach station
Featured article Tukwila International Boulevard station
Good article SeaTac/Airport station
Good article Angle Lake station

I've been working on getting these station articles up to GA for just over three years now, and will soon be ready to nominate the topic. I chose to go with the line article as the lead, rather than the list of stations, since the other stations are basically streetcar stops and are a long distance away from the closest Central Link station. Would that be able to pass GTC? SounderBruce 07:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

@SounderBruce: I think so, as its more narrowly focused on just this line, though I'd also pipe the articles like so:
20 articles
Good article nominee Central Link stations
Sound Transit logo simplified.svg
Good article nominee University of Washington
Good article Capitol Hill
Good article Westlake
Good article University Street
Good article Pioneer Square
Good article International District/Chinatown
Good article Stadium
Good article SODO
Good article Beacon Hill
Good article Mount Baker
Good article Columbia City
Good article Othello
Good article Rainier Beach
Featured article Tukwila International Boulevard
Good article SeaTac/Airport
Good article Angle Lake

--PresN 14:01, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Dhammakaya movement series

I'd like to consult about submitting the articles about the Dhammakaya movement as a good series. There's a template with all the articles here. There are four articles which aren't GA yet, and I'd like to ask your opinion as to whether it'd be required to bring them all to GA level. Specifically, I'm in doubt whether the articles Luang Por Dhammajayo and Dhammakaya Movement UK have GA potential. If i don't include these two articles, do you think the series can still be submitted?--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 20:13, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Any thoughts, PresN?--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 20:02, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Sonic Gems Collection

4 articles
Good article Sonic Gems Collection

Good article Sonic CD

Good article Sonic the Fighters

Good article Sonic R

This topic would comprise articles about games that were featured in the 2005 video game compilation Sonic Gems Collection. The compilation's three "featured" games are all GAs. However, there are nine other bonus games in the compilation, but the only one that is beyond B-class is Sonic Spinball (an FA). My question is, would this not be able to become a good topic unless the other articles are worked up to standards? JOEBRO64 00:54, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Every single game in the collection would have to be included, including the unlockabables and the Japanese exclusive games to satisfy the criteria for completeness, 1(d). 1(c) would also be an issue at present, as there is no navbox or category that includes all of them.-- 01:22, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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