Wikipedia talk:External links

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ETCSL links inline

I met a user that would like to use ETCSL links in his article, that refer to primary sources of ancient Mesopotamian texts (See Gilgamesh#Sumerian poems, from second paragraph onward). In a GA review, the user defends this usage as a standard among scholars of Mesopotamia. I would like to know if anyone can second this usage of external links, and whether it agrees with WP:MOS.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 07:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

What are "sourcing tools"?

Links normally to be avoided includes, "Sites already linked through Wikipedia sourcing tools" with a note stating, "This guideline does not restrict linking to websites that are being used as sources to provide content in articles". So what are "sourcing tools"? And what sites then are referred to in this guidance? Thinker78 (talk) 19:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Policy to deeplink whenever possible?

It seems pretty obvious that if you use to support some claims about foo, the reference should link to and not just (For a real example: any link to a BBC news article vs. BBC frontpage.) However, I could not find it explicitly in our current guidelines, though one might argue that it is already implicit in a few places (e.g. in WP:INCITE Inline citations allow (...) to associate a given bit of material (...) with the specific reliable source(s) that support it. (emphasis added)).

Did I miss it? If not, should we add it? TigraanClick here to contact me 15:49, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

From WP:V "The cited source must clearly support the material as presented in the article. Cite the source clearly and precisely (specifying page, section, or such divisions as may be appropriate)". --Masem (t) 15:55, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
ELNO 13, and probably ... that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content .... Obvious, documents about another subject are not suitable external links. —Dirk Beetstra T C 16:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


I regurarly run into situations where technically both criteria in WP:ELOFFICIAL - it is a website Controlled by the subject, and a main claim to the subject’s notability, but I argue that it is not a website ABOUT the subject. My latest example is Meghan Murphy, who is controlling (she is editor), ánd it is a main claim to her notability. I argue there that that is not a website about her, it is the official website of Feminist Current. I find these cases of WP:ELNO #13.

Do we need to be more clear/explicit that this use is indirect in WP:ELLOFFICIAL. Do we need to add that the website needs to be ABOUTthe subject? —Dirk Beetstra T C 06:07, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Another one: Massimo Bottura - it is the website of the restaurant where he is chef (restaurant linked in text). —Dirk Beetstra T C 12:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC) (now cleaned in coll. with user:Walter Görlitz. Dirk Beetstra T C 16:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC))

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