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Paradox 2wx

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Seems to be a quintessential garage band article (except about a solo artist rather than a band). Despite all the claims in the article, a search couldn't verify most of the said claims, nor did the search reveal enough coverage in reliable sources. The two awards mentioned in the article come from institutions that don't appear to have Wikipedia articles, and in any case don't appear to be notable awards either. The article also reads like a promotional piece. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:36, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment - There appears to be slightly more coverage for the artist under "Spike La Rock", such as an interview with Reverb Nation. It's possible that more coverage exists under that name, but I'm keeping this discussion open to see if consensus determines that those hits are enough to establish notability. Even if the article is kept, it probably needs a major rewrite to remove the puffery. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Bob Coffin

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Completing AfD for User:Mfernandez77, whose rationale was: An unremarkable politician. Position far too common and with no significant contribution to society as a whole. Few sources with little to no nobility. Would consider accomplishing something before Wikipedia inclusion. ansh666 03:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Rebecca Jaremko Bromwich

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WP:BLP of a writer, academic and non-winning candidate for political office, which is written with a decidedly advertorial résumé slant and referenced entirely to primary sources with no evidence of reliable source coverage about her in media shown at all. As always, none of her three job titles confer an automatic notability freebie on a person just because she exists; she must be the subject of adequate reliable source coverage to pass WP:GNG, and the writing tone must be neutral and encyclopedic, for an article to become earned. Bearcat (talk) 03:23, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Ian's Walk: A Story about Autism

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minor book with minor reviews only , very minor publisheer DGG ( talk ) 02:24, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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FECON

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Barely referenced, reads like a press release, notability questionable. Likely COI issues. JamesG5 (talk) 02:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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Sanjay Shah

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Although the subject's stay in the Nairobi airport lasted for some time, this is ultimately a WP:BLP1E. There's been no continuing coverage since he was given British citizenship. agtx 21:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Although this event was interesting and lasted a while, Mr. Shah is low profile. I'd suggest a merge or redirect but I'm not sure where to send it to. Mytildebang (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, or redirect to British Overseas citizen#Future of British Overseas citizenship. In addition to BLP1E, most of what was mentioned in the article was already succinctly summarized in the redirect target. --Dps04 (talk) 03:26, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Bryce Welker

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Subject only mentioned in passing in reliable sources. Meatsgains (talk) 01:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Jason J. Hogg

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This is yet another promotional puff piece, the resume of a business person where the references are either on promotional/business directory-style websites, or user-submitted (like the Bloomberg profile). Drmies (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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Jesse Cox

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Does not meet WP:BIO, article created after subject asked their fans to make it. "I want a Wikipedia page" Alizaa2 (talk) 22:58, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep Did you do any WP:BEFORE? The article seems skeletal at this point but the subject is a well-known gaming personality. I think this can easily be WP:RESCUEd, and the nom rationale says to me WP:IDLI (everyone wants a Wikipedia page, who doesn't?). Nate (chatter) 03:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
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  • Comment I'm not quite persuaded. He has won a Golden Joystick Award which is a strongly notable prize (although in one of the less important categories based on media coverage). But are any of these sources reliable?[1][2][3] He certainly hasn't got as much media coverage as some video game vloggers. --Colapeninsula (talk) 08:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep The article is lacking in content, but then again that is why Wikipedia has a stub category. Perhaps in the future the article will be further expanded. While I have no doubt that this article has been added to by Cox's fans, he only referenced it's existence on 23 March 2017, two months after it was originally created. I can guarantee that the subject of the article did not request it's creation, as I <disclaimer> created the article. I believe that the nominator of this article for deletion was simply unaware of WP:BEFORE. More work is needed, but a WP:RESCUE is likely.--SamHolt6 14:40, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete the references and viewcounts aren't particularly notable Youtuber standards. I don't see any mainstream news coverage. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:36, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Jermaine Loewen

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Non-notable hockey player. Has not played at the highest level. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep: Per WP:NHOCKEY, meets WP:GNG. He became the second Jamaican-born hockey player after Graeme Townshend to play in the NHL for five seasons. AaronWikia (talk) 01:47, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment: Loewen absolutely does not meet NHOCKEY; he's a 19-year-old third-liner in the juniors who could have been drafted a year ago (and wasn't), and I suspect won't make the pros without some serious improvement, so I'm at a loss as to figure out why anyone would think he was a NHL player, never mind for five seasons. The Sportsnet cite is a good one, but it's the only valid one in the article, so, @AaronWikia:, if you found other qualifying sources in the search you made to assure yourself the subject meets the GNG, could we see them please? Ravenswing 04:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Hando Ruus

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An unremarkable SS captain. Does not meet WP:SOLDIER & significant RS coverage not found: link.

Richard Landwehr's Estonian Vikings is a fringe publication. Some coverage from apparently non-RS The history of battalion "Narva": Stronger than steel from a small-time publisher, plus other passing mentions.

I don't believe that significant RS coverage for the subject, either in English or Estonian, exists, as is typical for low ranking Waffen-SS commanders. The article has been de-PRODed with the rationale that the subject was a recipient of the Iron Cross, 1st class. This does not meet SOLDIER #1, as Iron Cross was not the highest German award for valour during World War II. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:12, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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Actually, he received Iron Cross First and Second Classes, as well as other medals. I was not clear in my rationale for removing the ProD. This is the right place to discuss his notability-- or lack there of.Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Nonfatal bear attacks

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Considering the attacks were not fatal, I don't see this as notable. Meatsgains (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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Irish Jasper

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Horse only won Grade III races with no significant coverage. Per NHORSERACING, horses need to win Grade I races or have significant coverage for other reasons to meet the indicia of notability for GNG Montanabw(talk) 01:02, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Agree - does not meet notability Jlvsclrk (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Heart Ashley

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Horse has only won Grade III races and no other indicia of notability for other reasons. Typically, per NHORSERACING, a horse needs to win a Grade I race to create a presumption of notability or else have other significant coverage to meet GNG. Montanabw(talk) 01:00, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Agree - does not meet notability. Jlvsclrk (talk) 04:01, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

British Columbia Conservatory of Music

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Subject is a music school for which I am unable to locate in depth coverage in reliable sources. Subject does not meet WP:GNG. Google search revealed such hits as: 4 square, face book, yelp, and local directories. There were hits for "Royal Conservatory of Music", but that is a different entity. Some performers listed subject among venues in tours and CV's. There are Google books hits for books credited to subject, and some books that include subject in lists. There is no substantial coverage. WP:Gale search was also unavailing through my library. Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment: There's really no content here. If the article creator can dig up significant profiles about the school in major newspapers, it is probably notable. Not much worth saving at the moment.--Milowenthasspoken 12:52, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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File:Cuthbert covercropped.jpg

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File:Back cover of St Cuthbert Gospel.JPG and File:The St Cuthbert Gospel of St John. (formerly known as the Stonyhurst Gospel) is the oldest intact European book. - Upper cover (Add Ms 89000).jpg are free files that obsoletes it. The uploader claimed that "The alternative image on Commons was uploaded by a trainee at the BL as part of their work, but their website appears to assert copyright on it. This image is the safer choice", but as long as it's on Commons and there's no dispute about its freedom (on Commons), we shouldn't host a Fair Use image of it. Prosfilaes (talk) 02:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Seriously??? A large proportion of Commons image have invalid rationales, and everybody knows it. That's before discussing this promotional image - I don't know that it's not free. As I said before "As the FU notes say, no photography of the book except by the BL is allowed, nor is it likely to be, for conservation reasons. This image has been released to the press, and was sent to me by the BL to use. The alternative image on Commons was uploaded by a trainee at the BL as part of their work, but their website appears to assert copyright on it. This image is the safer choice." Btw, "obselete" is not a verb. This is the 2nd image on an FA, and better than the other. I don't know why you mention File:Back cover of St Cuthbert Gospel.JPG, which is clearly of something else. Johnbod (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Seriously! We're all part of Wikimedia, and we shouldn't sit here and bad-mouth another project instead of trying to improve it. This is a marginal fair use, at best, depicting an existing book that we have an unquestionably free version of, File:Britannica Bookbinding - St. Cuthbert's Gospels.jpg. The fact that there is files of equal quality on Commons that are prima facie free means we shouldn't be hosting it here.
It is true that "obselete" is not a word in English; since I didn't use that word, I'm not sure why you brought it up. As wikt:obsolete says, "obsolete" can be used as a verb. It may be informal usage, but it is so used in published English and it was clearly understood by you and should be understood by most of the readers. It's much better formal English than "Btw".--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
The fuzzy black and white image from 1911 is completely inadequate for use. As I say, there is no evidence that this file is not free. I've bolded your use of "obselete" as a verb, since you find it hard to see. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
I removed the bold around obsolete, which you somehow confused with "obselete". I don't believe that fair use lets us take the best quality photo over one that's merely free, but I'll leave that to the experts.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Historic farms

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:09, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose merger of "Centennial farms" and/or "Century farms" into generic "Historic farms". Thanks for notice about this. There's no difference intended between "Centennial" ones vs. "Century" ones; I have a small bias towards choosing to use "Century". Setting up a category redirect or merging "Centennial" into "Century" is fine. Also, Century farms can naturally be a subcategory of Historic farms. However, the term "Century farm" is a designation like a historic site listing which is specific, is recognized by various state agencies, involves documentation that one family owned and operated the farm for 100 years (where "in the same family" and "operating the farm" have to be defined well enough, which may vary slightly by state). This is like the difference between generic historic houses vs. houses which are specifically listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places or the City of Los Angeles' Historic-Cultural Monuments or the like. See the Century Farm article which lists the state recognizing bodies. It is temporarily a small category because previous members were lost in the past (perhaps one or both categories were deleted in the past). There is room for an explicit list of them, but Categories and Lists are complementary (per wp:CLT), and it makes sense to allow the category so that members for a list can be identified. --doncram 04:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • P.S. wp:SMALLCAT applies to categories with little or no potential for growth. Check out this 23 page list of new Century Farms designated in Iowa in 2016, for just one state's listings, found in 2 seconds of Google searching. I am not expecting that each one of these needs a Wikipedia article. But where they are notable and have articles, putting into a category to group them together is helpful. --doncram 04:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Category:Pre-Islamic heritage by country

Nominator's rationale: delete, only contains a single child category, and no room for expansion since we normally name a category "Ancient history of" instead of "Pre-islamic". Marcocapelle (talk) 04:01, 25 May 2017 (UTC)



Redirects

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U.S. Highway 39

Delete for the same reasons as Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 19#Interstate 6: these are unused U.S. route numbers. They should be red to prevent confusion in case someone were to think they've been used at one point in the past or future. There's no mention of these numbers at the target article, which is also confusing. -- Tavix (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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