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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedure

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, February 2020

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.


S2: Paralympic medalist upmerged templates

Proposals, January 2020

Subcats of Category:Nepal geography stubs

We should phase out zone subcats and phase in Province subcats. More specific district subcats for each province are also possible. However, the status of zones is not clear and they are no longer used by sources, instead preferring provinces and districts when discussing topics. I created the subcat for Sudurpashchim and only navigating from there did I realise that it ought to have been proposed here first. Similar subcat for Karnali Pradesh already exists and is populated, so there may already be a consensus for this proposal. Just making sure. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Ideally, we should have district cats inside province cats inside country cat. I doubt we'll need any cats more specific than districts any time soon. Also, some zone cats can be added to their corresponding province cats but others can't and so articles in them would have to be resorted manually. Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I suggest we create {{Gandaki-geo-stub}} and {{Karnali-geo-stub}} for the two other provinces that have been officially named, followed by categories if they reach 60+ articles, then see how the stubs sort and whether the other provinces get named any time soon. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 22:13, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Turns out the templates and categories for those two areas exist; I have nominated one category for renaming (Garnaki) and will try to find a source for determining which districts now belong in which provinces. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 20:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I learn so much about geography while stub sorting. ;P I have gone through the zones, provinces, and districts of Nepal and figured out which districts are now in which province, so the "zone"-geo-stub types need to be re-sorted. Won't that be fun. Some are fairly straightforward, as when all the districts in a zone have been reassigned to the same province. Some, not so much.

Proposed changes

Re-sort all {{Kosi-geo-stub}}, all {{Mechi-geo-stub}}, some {{Lumbini-geo-stub}}, and some {{Sagarmatha-geo-stub}} articles into this category as {{Province1NP-geo-stub}}
Re-sort some {{Janakpur-geo-stub}}, some {{Narayani-geo-stub}}, and some {{Sagarmatha-geo-stub}} articles into this category as {{Province2NP-geo-stub}}
Re-sort some {{Bheri-geo-stub}}, some {{Lumbini-geo-stub}}, and some {{Rapti-geo-stub}} articles into this category as {{Province5NP-geo-stub}}
If you want to see how it's all broken out, I made a list in my sandbox. I hope this makes even a little sense. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 18:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone have input on the nomenclature of the numbered province templates and categories? If not I will proceed as proposed. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 22:45, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Pegship, hello there! I had seen you move my post but I forgot to update my watchlist then, and then was on a wikibreak for more than a month. So, having been back and now available to work and collaborate on this, am I seeing your replies, although I had seen alerts of your CfDs all of which I agreed with. Thank you for already starting the work. I will go over the proposal and post a more in-subject reply after I've reviewed which of the proposals you have already implemented. Thanks again! Usedtobecool ☎️ 18:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Usedtobecool, welcome back, and any suggestions are welcome also! Her Pegship (I'm listening) 18:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Pegship, I was a little bit concerned by your suggestion above to re-sort Lumbini into Province No. 1. But going through your sandbox, everything seems to be in perfect order. Stellar work! Only suggestion I have, if you can call it that, is I rather like the template statement I have at {{Karnali-geo-stub}}. If there's nothing wrong with it, maybe, we could use that for the templates you created as well. Regarding nomenclature, I might have left ", Nepal" out as I don't think any other country would be crazy enough to name their provinces by numbers but I, as well, understand why appending ", Nepal" makes sense. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 18:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Excellent points. (I added "NP" to be unambiguous, but I agree with you about the numbers!) I can change the text of the new templates per your comment. Cheers, Her Pegship (I'm listening) 19:32, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
And I'll try to lend a hand with the re-sorting. Cheers! Usedtobecool ☎️ 19:38, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposals, December 2019

S1: Category for Netherlands-Paralympic-medalist-stub

Speedy categories

Manga stubs

Cyclophoridae stubs

Ariidae stubs

S1 Bashkortostan-geo-stub to Category:Bashkortostan stubs

Speedy S1: Category for Austria-Paralympic-medalist-stub

American astronomical observatory stubs

Proposals, November 2019

Speedy creation (S1): New Zealand Paralympic category

Create Canadian parliamentary group stubs

Vermont gubernatorial election stubs

Split 'Australian rules biography, 1900s birth stubs' by year

Split 'Russian football defender, 1990s births stubs' by year

Proposals, October 2019

Regional religion stubs

West Bengal geography stubs



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