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  1. come help with the Bronwen Mantel article Smith Jones 22:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  2. Lovelaughterlife (talk · contribs) Worked extensively on some biographies; reverted vandalism some others
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  12. Shruti14 (talk · contribs) will help when I can
  13. Jubileeclipman (talk · contribs) I am interested in taking on UK celebrities with articles that are stubs or otherwise non-standard. Entirely rewrote Fearne Cotton to raise standard and remove fansite tag. I am working on Holly Willoughby which was merely a list plus trivia. Will also work on musicians, all genre, living or dead.
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Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art

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fails WP:ORG. Only a primary source supplied. The coverage in gnews is very routine and very local. LibStar (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment this is weird. Odd to find such little coverage of a museum located in a large sized place in an English language speaking country. Anyone know if it was renamed or there might be annother issue? I've seen better coverage of Museum of East Podunk than this one. StarM 19:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep Coverage is limited, but it exists. I have added two independent, reliable sources. Mduvekot (talk) 20:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
coverage is still very local. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Jonathan Allen (artist)

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Searching does not appear to find substantial coverage in reliable sources. This person thus fails WP:NARTIST, as tagged since January 2014, with a claim that this is a CV. The first AfD failed to achieve consensus for having only an argument by an IP user. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 02:38, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep The Guardian article shows that there's plenty out there--dig through the above find sources template a bit, and you'll see that the GNG is met. Jclemens (talk) 04:35, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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Mher Khachatryan (artist)

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There is a claim for notability, but the only criteria that allows him to pass WP:CREATIVE is being part of Armenian National Gallery and here is the problem. The article does not even mentions him being part of the collection and more, it's just about some group exhibition held in the gallery. Other sources are not enough to establish notability Arthistorian1977 (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC) Arthistorian1977 (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep. Reason for nomination is moot - the National Gallery of Armenia does not collect contemporary artists. The most current artist mentioned in the gallery collection is Aram Isabekyan (b. 1952).[1] Other, contemporary sources clearly point to notability. Manc1234 (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Manc1234, Beside National Gallery of Armenia, and in case you are right, the information in article is intentionally wrong, there is no any other point, that may get him passing WP:ARTISTS. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Arthistorian1977, it does not benefit the encyclopedia to remove an article about a subject relevant to contemporary art couched in Armenian history. Khachatryan may not be the next Picasso, but he's producing and exhibiting work that encyclopedia users may see in the real world and want further context about. I believe in this instance, we should make an exception for the collection rule on WP:CREATIVE. Manc1234 (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Manc1234 It's not the case of benefit or not. There are rules, but there is a common sense as well. In his case, both rules and common sense tell he is not notable. Collection is just one of criteria of WP:CREATIVE. In order to pass, artist may meet only one of those criterias, but unfortunaltely he does not meet a single one. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Arthistorian1977, I've added a notability flag and I suggest we seek out Armenian experts before a final decision is made. There is a lot of content about Khachatryan on non-English language pages.Manc1234 (talk) 14:52, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
I will be happy to change my mind in case there will be enough Armenian references, but for an Artist, living and working in USA for almost 15 years, I'd expect to see some English references. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment. The article claims his work have been exhibited in National Gallery of Armenia, but I red the reference provided in it's Russian version and it does not mention him as one of participants.Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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  • Comment Khachatryan has also appeared on many Armenian TV shows discussing his work: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] Manc1234 (talk) 02:27, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
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Traci Hunter Abramson

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Promotional article created by paid editor, fails WP:AUTHOR. zzz (talk) 00:35, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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David Ruhe

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Simply not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show that he passes WP:GNG, and he certainly doesn't pass either WP:FILMMAKER or WP:NAUTHOR. Onel5969 TT me 15:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete or redirect to Universal House of Justice. I think there is a misunderstanding that members of the Universal House of Justice have independent notability. Among Baha'is they are not well known as individuals and have no special authority outside of the council chamber. They are not clergy in any sense. David Ruhe has certainly not "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The article is currently sourced from a single obituary from the Baha'i World News Service. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:27, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, or redirect per Cuñado; the only reference given is a primary source, which is insufficient to establish notability for Wikipedia articles. Ruhe was a former member of the Universal House of Justice, the institution that acts as the elected, legislative head of the Bahá'í Faith, and the sole reference is to an article on the Baha'i World News Service, which is affiliated with that institution.
Ruhe's former membership on the Universal House of Justice appears to be why the primary author of recent changes to this article believes he is, in fact, notable enough for a stand-alone article. It is the institution which holds authority, however, not its members; individual members have no special standing within Bahá'í communities and wield no authority. In this light, it doesn't make sense to create a separate article on these grounds. It would, perhaps, be a better use of time and effort to contribute to the improvement of Universal House of Justice. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 16:29, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
delete. No independent sources discussing him or his work. Not notable in a wikipedia context. Work at the Universal House of Justice is never penned "from person x" so whatever his work there it is not traceable to any member and historically his work is not of a breadth appropriate for wikipedia. Smkolins (talk) 16:41, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep. This article has existed since 2007. The personage is notable and the sources are valid and objective. All who are voting to "delete" this are also systematically eliminating other articles that present an encyclopedic, objective and unbiased view of the Bahá'í Faith. Some of these editors also intimidate former Bahá'í editors who wish to present an academic view of the Bahá'í Faith not necessarily in accordance with the official narrative of the present Bahá'í Administrative Order. Please feel free to read my talk page for several examples. Regards, A35821361 (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
You're not making a real great case for yourself here, nor are you leaving a very positive impression of your conduct for other editors. It's fairly trivial to establish how this article does not establish the notability of its subject according to Wikipedia guidelines. Regarding the blanket claim that I am "systematically eliminating" objective articles about the Bahá'í Faith, I invite you to pore over the ten (maybe eleven by now) years of my contributions here to find one such article. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 21:02, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


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Muhammad Bashir Ranjha

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Promotional bio. No signs of notability. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:45, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Comment: Previous instances of articles about this person were submitted by Bashiranjha and speedy-deleted and rejected as AfC draft. AllyD (talk) 11:03, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete this confirmed autobio. fails to meet WP:GNG. --Saqib (talk) 11:18, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Khurshid Eqbal

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Full of promotional stuff. No coverage in WP:RS. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Safdar Hamadani

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No coverage in WP:RS. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:54, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Sher Afzal Khan Barikoti

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Here is Pashto article. Greenbörg (talk) 09:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Kiran Kaverappa

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The subject lacks independent coverage in reliable sources. A Google news search reveal only passing mentions except this recently published source which reads like an interview. The article was deleted twice after the expiration of PROD and I still believe its WP:TOOSOON for a stand-alone article so bringing up here for a wider discussion. GSS (talk|c|em) 19:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Appears to have only minor collaborative credits on songs and doesn't satisfy any of the criteria at WP:ARTIST. --regentspark (comment) 23:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete Lack of WP:SIGCOV, and fails WP:ARTIST. On a sidenote, I not this person. Face-grin.svgusernamekiran(talk) 05:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Mark Nation

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Contested PROD. While the article is marginally less promotional than it was when I initially encountered it, I'm not convinced that the subject is in fact notable. Such references as are provided and extant tend to be either directly connected with the subject or simply confirming the existence of his books etc. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:53, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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Jean Borde

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PROD'd by me earlier tonight and de-PROD'd within nine minutes by InternationalWriter, a user with six edits who I believe is the subject or an associate, based on the fact that three of those edits concern Mr. Borde or his projects. And whose last edit was June 20th, prior to swooping in to remove the PROD. I have left a note on his talk page asking him to identify if he has a COI.

For the record although I know a COI isn't grounds for deletion in and of itself: it is obvious that the subject is the creator (User:Web2008editor, formerly known as Bordeglobal until a rename in 2016). As if the name weren't a dead giveaway, the creating account has very few other edits but until 2012 periodically returned to update the article with Borde's latest pet projects. That account's only other edits (including deleted edits) were to projects Borde is involved in.

All that aside: despite extensive searching I can't find any independent sources that verify the subject's notability under any guideline - WP:GNG, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:ARTIST, etc. All the sources linked in the article are self-published by the subject or are otherwise not reliable. ♠PMC(talk) 11:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

InternationalWriter has admitted to being the subject here and subsequently attempted to replace the article's content with the word "delete" here. ♠PMC(talk) 12:28, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Daven Michaels

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Puff promo piece, with sources that go nowhere near proving notability. Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. The only editor to add to this article is a WP:SPA Domdeparis (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete - No significant reliable coverage.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 10:31, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Kalyan Bulchand Advani

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Sources are unreliable. Fails WP:GNG and WP:WRITER. Greenbörg (talk) 10:16, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

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Molai Sheedai

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Not many sources. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:11, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

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Nabi Bux G. Qazi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:07, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Note Haven't yet checked if the subject meets notability requirement, but in any case this one should be speedy deleted because of copyvio. --Saqib (talk) 12:47, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
@Saqib: From where this is copied? Greenbörg (talk) 14:51, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
I am seems to be mistaken. That page which I initially thought is origin of the material posted on WP page is actually found to be a mirror of WP. Anyways, you could had speedy deleted this per Wikipedia:BLPPROD because there is no source at all. --Saqib (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete i couldn't found anything in RS. the subject doesn't seems to be a notable person. he had served on a few government posts but not a notable career IMO. There is a claim "He wrote enormous research papers", so if someone prove it, I may change my !vote.--Saqib (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Mubazi Eric J

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The many sources cited in this apparent autobiography are all affiliated or ordinary directory listings. Google turns up nothing useful for establishing notability either. Largoplazo (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Freda Cruse Atwell

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Delete: for same reasons article has been tagged (Notability, primary sources, OR, autobiography); no improvements have been made. Quis separabit? 03:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Arati Tagore

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de-PRODed, because "can't use a web search to assess notability of someone who died in 1975". (I disagree, much pre-internet content has been digitized). Written by editor with an apparent COI, according to whom all her relatives are famous (famous is most frequently used word after "in", "also", "of", "the", "was" and "and"), even though none of them have an article. No sources are provided. I did find one book that mentions the subject, Rao, D. S. (2004). Five Decades: The National Academy of Letters, India : a Short History of Sahitya Akademi. Sahitya Akademi. ISBN 9788126020607. , but that provides no information beyond crediting her as a translator. Mduvekot (talk) 13:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - prodded over a month ago, and no improvement to the article since then. I agree with Mduvekot's point about sourcing, while pre-internet subjects can be difficult to find sourcing on, there is usually some which can be found, there are only trivial mentions of this individual, usually as a translator. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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Mansour Hedayati

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Could find no sources for this biography. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO Domdeparis (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • delete Looks like a recreation of an article earlier deleted as Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. I still see no notability. It is backed up by one source, that I can not find using the ISBN... The Banner talk 12:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep It has a featured article on another wiki. So I would say we must keep it instead of deleting. It just needs improvement. I'm busy right now but I will improve the article as soon as possible. Thanks. The Stray Dog Talk Page 15:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Each Wiki is a separate project and the fact that he has a page on another wiki doesn't make him automatically notable. You originally created the article in August 2016. It went through an AFD and there was no consensus. It was then speedily deleted in septembre 2016 as not credibly indicating the importance of the subject. You recreated it June 2017 and it was nominated for a speedy delete A7 and you removed this tag yourself which you should not have done. It is now going through another AFD. I think that after over a year of creation and then deletion as not being notable you should really have had enough time to find at least 1 source that helps prove notability. Domdeparis (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable author who meets Wikipedia guidelines. Just because many of the citations about this author aren't in English doesn't change his notability.--SouthernNights (talk) 23:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Which sources are you talking about? Are they reliable sources? Who were they written by and what do they say about this author? Domdeparis (talk) 09:08, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Najmul Hoda

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Not notable per WP:AUTHOR. He fails WP:GNG too. Greenbörg (talk) 10:48, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Khawaja Reazuddin Atash

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No source. Tried to find but nothing came up. He fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 10:57, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Weak Delete Although he is not notable in english, I am wondering if there are sources in other languages. I am a bit surprised that he does not have articles on WPs in other languages though. No WP:RSs seem to exist in english and there is no evidence that there are sufficient notable sources in other languages.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:36, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete found nothing in RS. Have searched in some Urdu sources as well but nothing except this which is not enough. --Saqib (talk) 05:42, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Danilo Kocevski

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Not sure if this person is notable per either WP:BIO or WP:PROF - or not notable per Wikipedia standards. References don't seem to indicate significant coverage in reliable sources when translated via Google translate or otherwise. However, I discovered on World Cat (please see link [8]) a list of books apparently authored by this person. Looking for input to either delete or keep. Steve Quinn (talk) 01:23, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Comment The author's books can be found on Google books, and the titles and previews can be translated via Google as well. Here is blurb in an English-language book pertaining to this author - [9]. It might be necessary to scroll up or down a little bit. Also, seems to be listed in Google Scholar. (Posted by the Nominator). Steve Quinn (talk) 01:47, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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  • Weak keep I was asked to comment. The Google translation of the Macedonian article shows a considerably longer list of publication, as does WorldCat. The Macedonian article also says he is editor of the magazine Разгледи (Razgledi) which WorldCat shows to have significant holdings in non-Macedonian libraries. DGG ( talk ) 04:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep extensively published Macedonian author with news coverage, and also some scholarly publications. Meets WP:BASIC. Should not have been listed for deletion. gidonb (talk) 09:25, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep -- seeing him mentioned in GNews as "a chronicler of Macedonia's capital" and a "renowned Macedonian writer". Sources are likely to exist in Macedonian. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:17, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Barry R. Clarke

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Non notable puzzler. One review is linked, for one of his books, but I did not find any others. No inherent notability, no passing the GNG, no passing PROF/AUTHOR guidelines. Drmies (talk) 21:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Weak delete. My feeling is that as the author of this many books from good publishers, he should be notable. But I tried and failed to find reliably-published reviews of the other books, independent sourcing for his telegraph column, etc., that could be used as evidence of notability. One review (all we have now) is not evidence of notability, and I don't have anything else. AfD participants should note that the article used to be much more detailed (see e.g. this earlier version) but I removed most of it as unsourced and unverifiable, although I have no reason to doubt the truth of any of it. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:18, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

William Scoular

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So promotional it just needs to be WP:TNT'ed. It had no WP:INLINECITED sources, just a source at the end, which was a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a deadlink. I have tried adding sources, but they don't seem to add up to extensive coverage on Scoular himself, though there are mentions. This has been tagged for notability for 9 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 06:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete: I have added a couple of references, but the best of these (the brief 2010 item from The Globe and Mail) is effectively a local notice, and the two cited reviews only verify that the subject is going about his trade. I agree with the nominator that there is not enough to demonstrate notability, whether by WP:DIRECTOR or WP:GNG. AllyD (talk) 07:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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Muhammad Sjjad Mirza baig Dehlvi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 07:17, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

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Elizabeth Austin (writer)

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I created the article in 2006 and it survived an AFD the same year. Standards can change over time, and I do not feel that the subject satisfies WP:BIO She has worked as a journalist and has published things here and there, but what is needed are articles ABOUT her, not just BY her. Edison (talk) 17:42, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep Edison, I think you were right the first time. I ran news archive searches, she did have a newspaper column. And a book that got a number of reviews. Some writing prizes. I think there's enough out there to crate an article, (and I do give her credit not not editing her own page.)E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:01, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Alexandra Allred

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clearly a promo puff piece, already deleted once for copyright violation and unambiguous advertising. I have trawled through the sources and they do not support notability. Sources 1: Blog 2: linkedin 3: blog 4: list of members 5: puff piece article that claims she was an olympian which is not true 6: goodreads 7: passing mention from 1994 8: book written by subject 9: article posted by the subject about herself 10: affiliated source 11: advocacy blog 12: does not mention the subject 13: blog from her group's web site 14: self published promo piece 15: ibid 11 16: doesn't mention the subject 17: amazon vendor page 18: amazon vendor page 19: goodreads Domdeparis (talk) 17:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)


  • Comment I know this topic was already deleted for being promotional before, I'm not sure how it was a copyright infringement. I never saw that page so I am not sure how it differs from this but I was asked to write this page without any foreknowledge of the subject for the express purpose that it wouldn't be promotional. With that being said I don't have a vested interest in this article I just want the facts to be available.

Everything I wrote has been sourced from a reputable website that I researched.

Most of the sources are primary to ensure accuracy. The descriptions you provided below are a little condensed, especially #7 the sports illustrated article, that's not a passing mention the whole second half of the article is on the 1994 national team and their respective experience and qualifying times. #5 is from Epoch Times, and the statement I cited is about her current occupational positions I specifically never say that she is an Olympian because she's not (from what I've gathered she was on the Olympic team but never competed but because of the lack of reputable sources on that I never mention it in that context, what I do know is in the sports illustrated article see above about #7). #10 is the Earth Justice website, I'm not sure how that makes it an affiliated source. #11 is a Huffington Post article not advocacy affiliated. #12 is the list of schools from the USA Today article to verify the claim. #13 is the group's website not a blog entry and is there to verify their existence as an organization. #14 is a link to the book that was referenced in the statement as it was posted on Earth Justice's website.
According to the guidelines for notability of creative professionals this subject meets the requirements there especially the third criteria, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." The subject has authored many books and one had a film being discussed. She was the subject of a PBS documentary. She's been featured as an expert in countless articles and contributed to textbooks in addition to her own fiction novels.
As far as the list of policies goes that would warrant deletion, this article is not advertising in any way it was specifically written to be from a neutral point of view and all of the evidence provided is verifiable. Many things were not included for that reason alone.
I appreciate all the work you've put into editing this and looking at the citations and writing. I would be happy to change whatever will make it more credible but I think some of your comments are dismissive.
Please let me know how I can fix this to support notability. Thank you Lmgc1078 (talk) 19:17, 20 July 2017 (UTC)LMGC1078
I don't think any of my comments are dismissive but the sources do not support notability. You need to read WP:RS I think to undersatnd the difference between primary and other sources. If there are "countless" articles I would suggest that you add them as they are sorely missing from the article. When you say she has been featured as an expert in these articles I really don't know what you mean. If you are claiming notability as an author the "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" have to be about her work. The books that she has published are self-published and could not be in all honesty described as "a significant or well-known work or collective body of work". You really should read what constitutes, as per WP:GNG, significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. None of the sources meet this definition. #10 is clearly affiliated as she is named as an ambassador of the organisation. #11 is a blog on huff post written by Marcia G. Yerman and her profile [10] states "She writes for Moms Clean Air Force, bringing visibility to the issue of clean air and environmental concerns" and "Yerman was co-founder of cultureID, a platform dedicated to a nexus of culture and activism". The article is not overly promotional or I would have tagged it for speedy delete; the language has been toned down since the first article but taking into account the lack of reliable sources to prove notability the fact that your's is a WP:SPA that has been created to specifically write this article point inexorably to a promo piece for a non-notable person as per WP guidelines aimed at improving her visibility. If you were asked to write this piece you are clearly a WP:COI editor and or a WP:PAID editor, if this is the case you must WP:DISCLOSE the person who asked you to write the article. Domdeparis (talk) 09:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes it did sound from my comment like I have a conflict of interest but I do not. The daughter mentioned on a forum that hers got deleted for being promotional so I went to write one without having any relationship with them so that it would be just facts that I could verify by more than one source.
Thank you for checking though.Lmgc1078 (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2017 (UTC)LMGC1078
I've added more sources to show notability including several national magazine articles and non fiction books in which she is featured as an expert as I previously mentioned. They are all articles about her works in fitness and writing.Lmgc1078 (talk) 04:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)LMGC1078


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Any chance of explaining why you are !voting keep? Domdeparis (talk) 08:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Based on sources here but that said, this article is bloated, with lots of boring pushing-it information, so it really needs to be trimmed down substantially -- get rid of the sources, stick with the references, write from them.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:53, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep per the excellent research by Tomwsulcer but clean up. Remember, AFD is not cleanup. If the subject is notable, the article stays, even if it's in terrible shape. That should be the only issue here. Smartyllama (talk) 13:00, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Annabel Venning

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Author who does not appear to be notable. One book only. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Reviewed at length in Independent[11] and Telegraph[12], and Google indicates it's cited a few times in academic texts, but I'd like to see another source before saying keep. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, it looks like the book was a one-off (2005) based on her personal experiences. I suspect the article was created by interested persons as her husband's article Guy Walters has had quite a lot of COI editing. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:41, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Weak keep There is an in-depth source here, plus a source where Venning is both the writer and partially the subject, and a similar story in the Daily Mail here, and another one here, and a similar writer-subject story in The Telegraph, and another one here. So, here's a question: are these stories in which Venning is both the author and the subject, in media such as the Daily Mail and The Telegraph, are these primary or secondary sources? So, I'm a bit on the fence here, but the article is not excessive, but (if it stays) there should be more information on Venning's pop-culture focus.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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Farrah Alexander

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Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial, in-depth support. Fails WP:AUTHOR and other criteria. reddogsix (talk) 01:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

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Elnur Kelbizadeh

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Not notable local educator Arthistorian1977 (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete until some impact on GS is found. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC).
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  • Delete - nothing suggests that WP:NACADEMIC notability criteria are met.--Rpclod (talk) 01:10, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Susannah Fullerton

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Fails notability criteria at WP:BIO, minimal sourcing and certainly not written from a neutral POV. OcarinaOfTime (talk) 07:33, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep Seems to be sufficient NEXIST to support the article, but which could be better referenced. Certainly does not appear to be written by someone who dislikes the subject, but it does not appear to biased with praise either. The article could do with some wikification and restyling, but that is not grounds for deletion. Aoziwe (talk) 12:24, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. Paid for promotion. Something Wikipedia is not. duffbeerforme (talk) 23:18, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
If that was an actual policy to delete articles, Bullets and Daffodils would be toast. See parallel discussion on WT:CSD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:28, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you be more specific about which WT:CSD thread you're referring to? -- RoySmith (talk) 14:18, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
This one Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete and temporarily salt per nom and Duffbeerforme. Article mainly written by a WP:SPA whose userpage ([13]) has a link to some kind of online marketing/SEO website misleadingly labeled "Independent web developer," which is not adequate WP:COI disclosure for me. Per WP:NOTPROMOTION, this article should be WP:TNTed to discourage such behavior. I don't think any volunteer editors should waste their time earning the paid editor her fee. - GretLomborg (talk) 05:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nominator.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:53, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep but suggest re-targeting the article as the Jane Austen Society of Australia as that's what the news hits seem to talk about more. The promotional fluff can be cleaned up by regular editing. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:27, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep If you want to drop some tactical nukes or stub-ify then fine, but she passes the GNG, regardless of NPOV or COI. ABC Online and several Australian articles in the past decade are what convinced me. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 15:45, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete as spam. If some other, established, editor wants to write a new article about this person, that's fine. But we're not providing free advertising space. I'm not going to waste time finding the right policy to cite, so call it WP:IAR if you want to. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:16, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete - no references indicate any notability.--Rpclod (talk) 01:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Ivan Rusilko

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Non-notable resume/advertisement like article lacking substantial, in-depth, non-trivial support. "References" include a lot of single line mentions and such. reddogsix (talk) 21:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Safdar Zaidi

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No reliable sources per WP:RS. No real world notability as search produces nothing. Writing single novel and translating to Dutch language won't make someone notable. Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. No notable awards or done something special. Fails WP:GNG

Source 1: Daily Dharti, not notable as it is a local online website. Its posts are related to the problems faced by Pakistani diaspora and can't be trusted. Source 3,5,8 are related to the same website which is a local unreliable source. Source 4 discuss him but that single source doesn't show he has done something special.

Adding to that I searched local Urdu newspapers and can't find anything. He doesn't have an article on Dutch or Urdu Wikipedia. If anyone has any reliable sources please post and I will have no objection. Greenbörg (talk) 11:13, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete author of non-notable novel/books therefore fails WP:AUTHOR. cited sources are not reliable except one noted above but as said it doesn't discuss the subject in detail. --Saqib (talk) 18:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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delete fails as author notability.

Michael Kurland

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Article contains no references (at all) and probably for a reason: a Google search turns up his home website, multiple Facebook accounts, LinkedIn, Amazon.com listings of his books for sale, evidence of being the recipient of two non-notable awards (what's an Edgar scroll?), more evidence of books he has published, and this Wikipedia article. What I did not find was non-trivial discussion of him in multiple reliable independent secondary published sources; a publication history does not confer notability, and WP:AUTHOR does not look like it has been nor can be met. KDS4444 (talk) 07:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

The Edgar thing appears to be referring to the Edgar Award, which is a fairly notable award except that Kurland has never actually won it; what he's got two of is nominations (Best Paperback Original, 1970 and 1980). Which is of course not quite as good for notability purposes. — Paul A (talk) 08:25, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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Keep. A prolific, well-known journeyman writer who published mostly prior to the Internet. His sf was renewed regularly in genre magazines as well as in Booklist, Kirkus Reviews, Library Journal, Publishers Weekly, School Library Journal, and the Chicago Daily News. His recent mysteries have s similar level of coverage. PW site shows about a dozen reviews in the last decade or so. The coverage is out there. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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Kate Andersen Brower

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Some notability exists, but from my POV she doesn't pass WP:GNG Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:22, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Strong Keep - The author's first book hit #1 on the New York Times bestseller list and has been optioned for a film or TV series by Kevin Spacey's production company. You know, the company that makes House of Cards. In addition her writings have been covered in a wide range of publications from The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, to many other outlets. I've added a bit of this info and citations to the article. This author is absolutely notable.--SouthernNights (talk) 00:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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Joe Morecraft

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Non-notable pastor lacking non-trivial, in-depth support. reddogsix (talk) 00:19, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete Fails GNG. No reliable independent sources to be found. Triptothecottage (talk) 04:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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Nipun Jaswal

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Non-notable researcher or author, lacks in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources. A Google news search for "Nipun Jaswal" or "निपुण जस्वाल" return nothing. If someone could prove that the award is significant to establish notability, I may change my mind. The award of excellence is most certainly not significant enough for inclusion, in my opinion. GSS (talk|c|em) 08:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hi GSS, He has got a National award from National Cyber Safety & Security Standards, a joint initiative by National Cyber Safety and MSMEDI,Ministry of MSME, Government of India. The excellence award is very rare. Moreover there are paragraph description about him in the provided news references which are national dailies. BetterSmile:D 09:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley (talkcontribs)

Keep Notable author with 4 books and have many citations on research papers from IEEE, Research gate and references from other notable cyber security books which adhere to #2 WP:AUTHORRafiq Marbaros (talk) 10:50, 6 July 2017 (UTC) Rafiqmarbaros (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

@Rafiqmarbaros: Author of 4 non-notable books how it passes WP:NAUTHOR? There is no significant coverage in third-party reliable sources to support WP:GNG either. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:50, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
@GSS-1987: Dear GSS bro when i did a check at citations of the book, apart from listing and reviews at google books, i found references at researchgate and IEEE at published papers. I may be wrong about WP:AUTHOR, sorry about that brother. Rafiq Marbaros (talk) 04:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
This was your second edit after registration so I would like to suggest please read WP:RS, WP:GNG and notability guidelines carefully before voting in AfD's or anywhere else. Thank you – GSS (talk|c|em) 11:30, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete No significant coverage except few mentions. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. --Elton-Rodrigues 15:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep More reliable references seen. Amar Ujala is a leading Newspaper in India. Passes WP:GNG and additionally it also passed WP:AUTHOR mainly 2,3 and 4th point of WP:AUTHOR . passes 2 - He is known for originating new concept WFF. passes 3 - He has created and co-created books that had various editions. passes 4 - He has got National award in his field of activity considering all his contributions BetterSmile:D 17:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC) . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley (talkcontribs) Note to closing admin: Bettersmiley (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
@Bettersmiley: The sources incliding Amar Ujala failed to establish notability and many of them are not even reliable. I don't understand on what basis you claim it passes WP:AUTHOR do you have any evidence? GSS (talk|c|em) 17:55, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
comment There is no basis for saying Amar Ujala article failed to establish notability . It very well features the person. Moreover I have mentioned above why he passes WP:NAUTHOR. He is also seen in WorldCat, which is well enough to prove the notability BetterSmile:D 03:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley (talkcontribs)
comment An additional article from Hindustan (newspaper) also added to enhance WP:GNG BetterSmile:D 03:28, 10 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley (talkcontribs)
WorldCat has nothing to do with notability and I still can't see a single evidence to support WP:AUTHOR. Your link to Hindustan is not working. GSS (talk|c|em) 09:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
comment FYI WorldCat is the World's Largest Library Catalog . In the criteria for notability notability it is stated that for any biography,if the person has an entry in the library, Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication is notable.WorldCat being the World's Largest Library Catalog has him listed in it. Along with other criterion here is this added criterion which proves his notability BetterSmile:D 13:13, 10 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley (talkcontribs)
Really? WorldCat is not a citation source; it's a library holdings catalog. It verifies existence, not "coverage" or notability, or anything else. Being listed in WorldCat really is rather meaningless when assessing notability and WorldCat lists anything that is published. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:50, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Primary sources are not enough to meet the Wikipedia's notability guidelines. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete- The subject in question is non-notable and fails WP:AUTHOR, Quantity of books written don't count for notability, I cant see any in depth coverage in the mainstream media about him or his work.  FITINDIA  18:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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