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June 16

14:50:47, 16 June 2017 review of submission by Bogue112


Please advise how I can change the user name at the beginning of the text.

Bogue112 (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Bogue. The change in the Sandbox banner has been made. NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

17:21:37, 16 June 2017 review of submission by CptTwinkie

My submission was declined on the basis of "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." I've spent a few hours reading the information available about citations and reliables sources and I'm very confused. Large parts of the information seems to be about biographical information or somehow about topics with research and printed publications. Since my article is about a modestly successful video game, it's not Call of Duty but doing well for an indie game, the vast majority of sources are online articles and reviews. So my question is, how can I improve the citations? Is the issue quantity, quality, or not enough direct citations for the text? I just need a direction or two to start working. Thanks for any help. CptTwinkie (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Ref #4 is a website scraper and not reliable. Ref #1 is a press release. Ref #2 and 3 says at the top of it "this is an unedited press release". If the video game is "modestly successful video game" then there must be reviews/awards/coverage by media organisations online? Back to the question at hand though, your section entitled "game play" has one reference- compare that with Civilization_VI#Gameplay where every paragraph has a citation. Similarly- in "development" you claim that "Medieval Engineers remains in active development, with a new update introducing bug-fixes and new elements every week, including an updated video posted to YouTube generally on Tuesdays."- is there a source for this? Quite simply put, I think the reviewer meant that there are too many claims in the article that are not backed up by a source.
(edit conflict) Hello, Captain. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. You might also want to take a look at the various materials assembled over at WP:WikiProject Video Games, especially their reference library. You might also want to work through our WP:Tutorial. Although your draft's layout is reasonably well done, you really need to add some "Wiki-links" to the draft (see the "Links" section of the Tutorial). I hope this response is helpful. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. NewYorkActuary (talk) 17:36, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

June 17

Request on 10:10:11, 17 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by CH16


Hey, I made an article about Finnish sport betting professional Jorma Vuoksenmaa. First I made a longer article and then shorter one. Both were not accepted. As a reference there were two big finnish newspaper articles, british Racing Post -magazine, Vuoksenmaas essay in Gambling and commercial gaming: essays in business, economics, philosophy and science. Reno, Nev.: Institute for the Study of Gambling and Commercial Gaming, College of Business Administration, University of Nevada, Reno, his own book and also something else.

I don't understand what kind of references I need to add? Is it problem that references are in Finnish language? Vuoksenmaa is very well-known in Finland but not so much abroad. Finnish Wikipedia accepted this article https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorma_Vuoksenmaa without any problem.

So can you help me because I dont really understand what I can do to make article match your standards?

CH16 (talk) 10:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi CH16. Your short version cited only two sources, both written by Vuoksenmaa. They can't help establish his notability because they are not independent of him. Try to avoid using anything written by him as a reference, unless it's the only source for something uncontroversial. Instead list his book(s) in a "Published works" section after his biography and before the references. Don't include shorter works such as chapters or magazine articles. Such a list is self-supporting. It can be helpful to use cite templates to format the list, but there is no reason to append references in <ref></ref> tags to the list entries. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works for more information and Antonin Scalia for an example.
Your long version was declined because the reviewer objected to the references, but they didn't explain what it was about them that they objected to. You would have to ask them. References in Finnish are fine. Presentation can influence reviewers.
  • One reference repeated the url in the title field, another used an invalid dot-separated date format. Minor errors like this can make it look like you don't care.
  • Reviwers are unlikely to be familiar with the Finnish poker media landscape. You can assist them by linking the website/work/newspaper field, such as The Hendon Mob, MTV3, Ilta-Sanomat, etc.
  • For foreign language and offline sources, it is helpful to use the cite template's quote parameter. See Wikipedia:Citing sources#Additional annotation.
  • Interviews may or may not help establish notability, depending on how much analysis there is by the interviewer and how much it is just Vuoksenmaa talking about Vuoksenmaa.
  • As above, try to avoid citing anything Vuoksenmaa has written. If you must cite his work, make it clear that he's the author.
--Worldbruce (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

22:00:50, 17 June 2017 review of submission by Janweh64

I request an independent review of this article. COI paid editor  —አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 22:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

You've been editing for 5 years now and should know that you'll have to wait your turn. There are other articles ahead of you in the queue but kudos for at least following the AfC process as a COI editor. You might find Category:AfC pending submissions by age helpful to judge how far up in the queue your draft is. jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:08, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I do not know how to interpret the Category:AfC pending submissions by age. A quick explanation of how AFC HELP people give estimates of drafts ahead of me and I would not pester this noticeboard so often.  —አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 06:42, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
If you don't want to pester this noticeboard so often, don't pester this noticeboard so often. Some of us, including me, have no intention of helping paid editors. However, I would suggest that the most general way to interpret the categories is that the amount of time that you will wait is random. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
@Janweh64: Starting from Category:AfC pending submissions by age, and assuming you don't remember when your draft was submitted, you can determine how many drafts have been waiting longer as follows. Follow the subcategory links on that page from oldest to newest until you find the page with your draft on it. Add it's position on that page, counted from the upper left, to the totals from all older category pages. For example, at this moment Draft:Don Reitz:
Thus about 200 drafts have been waiting longer than Reitz. That doesn't mean that Reitz will be the 200th reviewed, because volunteers work in all sorts of different ways - it's a pool of drafts rather than a queue, but the smaller the number the more likely it will be reviewed soon. You can estimate when by monitoring the number over a few days. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

June 18

00:50:10, 18 June 2017 review of submission by Writer wiki1


I submitted the article a month ago but haven't received any feedback. Kindly let me know what I can do to have the article published.

Is the first part too long? How many words should I reduce it to?

Writer wiki1 (talk) 00:50, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Writer. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Right now, there are about 200 submissions in the queue ahead of yours. I expect that it will be the better part of a week before a reviewer takes a look at your submission. As for your questions, yes -- the lead is far too long. And if my quick reading is correct in suggesting that Wong's chief claim of significance is being the founder of a venture capital firm, then you probably don't need to have a lead section that is longer than one or two sentences. I hope this response has been helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:17, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

06:29:14, 18 June 2017 review of submission by Jud Hudon


I have just submitted a short article on William Cecil "Billy" Christmas who was inducted into Canada's Sports Hall of Fame in 2015. There is very little about Billy Christmas on the Internet. I therefore decided to write a brief, fact-based biography about him. I was able to write the text and included my references but don't know how to include a photo of Billy Christmas in his 1898 Winged Wheels Lacrosse Uniform. Could you help me with that? I also need help with the "Personal Information" that goes underneath the photo. I have included that with my text but lack the skills to put it into the correct cells.

Thank you.

Jud Hudon

Jud Hudon (talk) 06:29, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Jud. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Uploading images can be a complex process. You can begin learning about it by taking a look at WP:Uploading images. As for the "personal information" section, you probably want to use the {{infobox sportsperson}} template (and you'll find instructions on its use by clicking through the link). But before doing these two things, you really ought to work through our WP:Tutorial. Your submission is seriously deficient in its layout and its sourcing, so much so that it probably will not be accepted in its current form. By working through the Tutorial, you will learn the basic techniques that are needed for crafting an acceptable Wikipedia article. And while working through the Tutorial, it also will be helpful to take a look at some of our better-quality articles on sportspeople, such as Adam Gilchrist or Jackie Robinson. Doing so will serve to show how the techniques taught in the Tutorial can be applied in practice. I hope this response has been helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 11:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

22:24:07, 18 June 2017 review of submission by Rpahuja25


Requesting a re-review because I did not finish the page.

@Rphahuja: Press the resubmit button once you're ready, but you've only added one reference since the last review. You should add inline citations- for a guide on how to do this see Help:Referencing for beginners. jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

22:26:23, 18 June 2017 review of submission by Rpahuja25


The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. It is still being working on. Accidently submitted. Please do not delte.

@Rpahuja25: No problem- it won't be deleted for at least six months from your last edit. Hope that helps! jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
One of the reasons to use Draft space and the Articles for Creation process is that your draft will not be deleted if it doesn't meet notability or verifiability standards. It will only be declined, and you can continue to work on it. If an article in article space does not meet Wikipedia standards, it is subject to any of three deletion processes. As long as you use draft space, you only need to work on your draft every six months, but are encouraged to work on it and submit it as appropriate. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

22:43:51, 18 June 2017 review of submission by Rpahuja25


HI JCC-I forgot to ask one other question. Does I need references for the wikipdedia page. A couple actor friends do not have a reference page.

@Rpahuja25: Could you point to some examples of actor articles without references- all biographies of living people should have references!
Secondly, I'm sorry about this but one of Wikipedia's guidelines is that articles must be on people who are notable by Wikipedia's standards. That links to a guide, but for a person to be notable, they need to have been discussed in in-depth sources, like media reports or interviews, and I don't think that you/Rajeev meets that guideline.
I realise that this may sound frustrating; creating articles is generally considered the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia due to this standard, and generally I recommend to new editors that they rack up a couple of hundred edits improving pre-existing articles, getting used to the writing style, getting feedback and reading the notability guide before creating new articles.
If you find this topic interesting, perhaps you might want to host this content on your own blog or website? jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:51, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

June 19

06:39:12, 19 June 2017 review of submission by Bmoy94

I submitted an article Innova Market Insights. It was recently reviewed but unfortunately, it didn't get approved due to the referencing part. Could you try to explain to me why in more details please? Also, could you help me about how to improve? Thank you. Bmoy94 (talk) 06:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

NOTE: Question has been answered at WP:Teahouse#Advice on referencing notability. NewYorkActuary (talk) 12:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

17:45:43, 19 June 2017 review of submission by Prairiefire2

Regarding Draft: Election Audits ... I submitted the Election audits article for review five weeks ago and was told review would take three weeks. I responded to the first editor's comment; the last message I received regarding its review was from Dodger61, if that helps. Prairiefire2 (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

21:34:39, 19 June 2017 review of submission by Slovo69


I had not intended to send my article for publication just yet, I do not know how it came to be considered for deletion or otherwise as I was still in the process of adding references. Is it possible to have more time to include the references? Slovo69 (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Slovo. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Your submission is being considered for deletion because the nominator believes that the submission will never be ready for publication. I assume you disagree and, if so, you should participate in the discussion that is currently taking place. You will find a link to that discussion in the box at the top of your submission but, for your convenience, we'll repeat it here -- WP:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Chris_McCafferty. I hope this response has been helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi Slovo69. The best argument against deletion is to add references to three independent, reliable sources that cover McCafferty in some depth. In future, always start with the sources and write the text based on what they say, rather than writing some text and then looking for sources. If the draft is deleted, you may continue looking for sources. If you find them, you may create another draft. If you don't find them, write about something else - we have millions of articles, most of which can be improved, see how to help at Wikipedia:Community portal. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:03, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

June 20

17:44:28, 20 June 2017 review of submission by Hssupres


I need to upload a picture.

Hssupres (talk) 17:44, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Hssupres. The copyright holder (generally the photographer) will need to license the photograph appropriately before it can be used here. That is straightforward if you are the photographer. If not, read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and the how-to guide Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. After you have the correct permissions, there are two main steps: first upload the image, then use it on a page.
Go to Commons:First steps and carefully step through the tutorial. When you get to "First steps/Uploading files", don't dive in too hastily. First follow the link on that page to learn about the different licensing options. Other useful advance reading includes Wikipedia:File names and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images, which will prepare you to answer important questions the upload wizard will ask you. If after that you have any questions or doubts, there is a dedicated help desk for image uploading.
Once you've uploaded an image, the picture tutorial can guide you through how to use it in an article. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

18:15:06, 20 June 2017 review of submission by Devialet

Hello, I am trying to create a page for Devialet on the English Wikipedia page. There is currently an existing page on the French Wikipedia (as this is where the company was started) with plenty of relevant sources and articles on the company. The issue I am facing is Devialet is new to the US (though 10+ years old in Europe), and so there are not many articles available in english as of yet. I'm wondering if there is a workaround for this considering there is a legitimate page in existence for the company on the French Wikipedia, and I am trying to recreate a similar type of page to exist on Devialet in English. Please let me know if there might be a way to help me with this issue I am facing. If I take out the significant claims like "they are the best audio system..." will that help my chances to have the article be published?

Thanks! Chelsea Devialet (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Devialet (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

@Devialet: English-language sources are preferred on the English-language Wikipedia, but reliable French-language sources may be used if no comparable source exists in English. For the article to be accepted, you'll likely have to entirely remove, or radically cut back the products and awards sections. The draft also shouldn't have any external links in the text. Turn them into references if possible, or remove them, or move them to an external links section at the bottom. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

June 21

14:14:43, 21 June 2017 review of submission by 195.103.86.68



Dear Wiki reviwer,

It's been a while since i'm tryng to Insert a page in Wikipedia regarding Fiocchi of America Inc.

Since the company Fiocchi Munizioni (you can find the Wikipedia page) is part of the history of my city (Lecco Italy) and part of the italian history in general i tried to complete the subject in wikipedia creating a dedicated page for Fiocchi of America in order to let also people form other places of the world to learn about it.

I got three denials from various reviewers, could you please help me?

Thank you

NOTE: Comments have been left on the draft. NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

15:11:32, 21 June 2017 review of submission by Marianaeva


Hello, I already did yesterday the article in wiki spanish but it does not entered as well. can you help me please? Best, Mariana

Marianaeva (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

NOTE: Question was raised and answered at WP:Teahouse#I'm trying to improve my own article. NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

15:25:29, 21 June 2017 review of submission by EleanorLC


EleanorLC (talk) 15:25, 21 June 2017 (UTC) I would like assistance in finding any more relevant sources to add to my article on the North Highland Way e.g. newspaper articles etc.

I would also be really interested to hear/see any more information about the route anyone may have. Any contributions are welcomed.

NOTE: Question is being discussed at WP:Teahouse#I am looking for some feedback on my first article written around the North Highland Way. NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

20:30:52, 21 June 2017 review of draft by SAR1


SAR1 (talk) 20:30, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@SAR1: Hello, SAR. Your submission was declined for being blank. And because you haven't actually asked a question here, I'm not sure what else can be said. NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:33, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

June 22

02:03:29, 22 June 2017 review of submission by IM3847


How to decline a draft at Articles for Creation. IM3847 (talk) 02:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry IM3847 if you have to ask here, you are clearly not qualified to do any reviewing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@Dodger67: Sir, Can I know who can review these draft i.e., Users with specific types of Rights.—IM3847 (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

16:14:38, 22 June 2017 review of submission by Mastercourington

I had posted an article concerning Brenda J. Sell, a Taekwondo personality.

I am trying to understand the whole citation verifiability ordeal. I cited several links (though, admittedly, I did not do the reference tags within the body, as you can literally find the information within the links I provided), I have linked to her husband's wiki page, as well as a couple of other wiki pages (Kukkiwon, being one of them as well).

Where am I going wrong?

Mastercourington (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

June 23

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