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Closing instructions

On this page, the deletion or merging of templates, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

How to use this page

What not to propose for discussion here

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

  • Stub templates
    Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
  • Userboxes
    Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
  • Speedy deletion candidates
    If the template clearly satisfies a "general" or "template" criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}. If it is an unused, hardcoded instance or duplication of another template, tag it with {{Db-t3|~~~~~|name of other template}}.
  • Policy or guideline templates
    Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at Tfd separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
  • Template redirects
    List at Redirects for discussion.

Reasons to delete a template

  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

I Tag the template.
Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:
  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the Tfd notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the Tfd tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the Tfd notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code). Note that TTObot is available to tag templates en masse if you do not wish to do it manually.

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the Tfd nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the Tfd, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

II List the template at Tfd.
Follow this link to edit today's Tfd log.

Add this text at the top, just below the -->:

  • For deletion:
    {{subst:tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging:
    {{subst:tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous Tfds, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous Tfd without brackets|result of previous Tfd}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code after the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:catfd2|category name}}
III Notify users.
Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for Tfd to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the Tfd tag is not removed.

Twinkle

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the functions of notification automatically. However, at present, it does not notify the creator of the other template in the case of a merger, so this step has to be performed manually. Twinkle also does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Contents

Current discussions

May 24

Cricket World Cup venues

Per this discussion at WT:CRIC. These just add template clutter to the foot of the articles and it's not a defining attribute to the stadiums. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete These kind of templates can be useful when they are constructed specially for the event but this is not the case in cricket. Greenbörg (talk) 10:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Celebrity Cricket League

Serves no purpose as all related articles are redirected. Greenbörg (talk) 09:56, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

May 23

Template:Turkey National Basketball Team roster

unused and duplicates Turkey national basketball team#Current roster Frietjes (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Great Britain national women's basketball team

unused and duplicates Great Britain women's national basketball team#Current roster Frietjes (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Philippines National Basketball Team roster

unused and duplicates Philippines men's national basketball team#Roster Frietjes (talk) 19:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Macedonian National Basketball Team roster

redundant to Macedonia national basketball team#Current roster Frietjes (talk) 19:35, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Current season

Unclear purpose, better intended as an infobox, G2 denied. – Train2104 (t • c) 16:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Map of Capitolium

unused Frietjes (talk) 14:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:International Emmy hosts

As a list of people presenting a ceremony, it fails WP:PERFNAV Rob Sinden (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Angola squad FIBA Africa Championship for Women U18 2012

5th place finish, not notable, squads are already in 2012 FIBA Africa Under-18 Championship for Women squads Frietjes (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kazakhstan Squad 2013 FIBA Asia Championship

8th place squad Frietjes (talk) 13:06, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:2014 Asian Games India men's basketball team roster

duplicates Basketball at the 2014 Asian Games – Men#Squads Frietjes (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Hong kong national basketball - FIBA Asia 2013 roster

duplicates content already found in 2013 FIBA Asia Championship squads Frietjes (talk) 12:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Vatican City articles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was wrong venue. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Vatican City articles with Template:Vatican City topics.
Broken link when attempting to edit. Should be renamed, I believe, to "topics". Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

  • wrong venue, one is a redirect to the other, so you want WP:RM. Frietjes (talk) 12:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:The Welcoming Committee

Parent article deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Welcoming Committee (WWE). Nikki311 05:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, no parent article. Frietjes (talk) 12:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

May 22

Template:YouTube most viewed

Countdowns don't seem to be an appropriate use of a navigation box template to place in articles. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:26, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Big Frame

Parent article Big Frame deleted. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:D&B spinoffs

unused Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Czech Republic women's national basketball team

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Cross-dressing footer

unused while Template:Cross-dressing is used Frietjes (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Croats of Serbia

unused Frietjes (talk) 19:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Croatia women's national basketball team

unused and duplicates Croatia women's national basketball team#Current roster Frietjes (talk) 19:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Croatia in the Eurovision Young Dancers

unused Frietjes (talk) 19:13, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Crimean Council changes after 2010 election

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was withdrawn Frietjes (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

unused Frietjes (talk) 19:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Mountain West Conference athletic director navbox

2 links...not enough to navigate per WP:EXISTING. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:26, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:India FH Squad 2002 World Cup

unused, not a notable squad Frietjes (talk) 15:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IndianTelevisionAcademyAwardBestNegativeActor

unused while Template:Indian Television Academy Awards is used. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IberianReconquistaMap

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:ISAF troop deployment

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IMD small

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IMD Scale small

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IEEE biography

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:IDF Leadership

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Hydroelectric plants in Australia

unused and duplicates Template:Energy in Victoria, Template:Energy in Tasmania, ... Frietjes (talk) 15:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:HwyBclass

unused with no documentation Frietjes (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Petro Atlético Basketball 2011-12

old and unused template Frietjes (talk) 12:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Anyang KGC roster

single-use roster table, can be included directly in the article, no need for a separate template. Frietjes (talk) 12:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Fighting Talk

WP:NENAN. Only two pages, both at AFD, but would still be unnecessary even if kept. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

May 21

Template:Flow ad

This template is an advertisement for Flow. Flow has been uninstalled from English Wikipedia. Previous TFD discussions have reached consensus to delete all Flow templates.[1][2][3] Alsee (talk) 23:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, we don't need an ad directing people to a historic project. Frietjes (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:First Secretaries of the Communist Party of Belarus in regions

A navbox holding only redlinks, and of doubtful utility in any case. DES (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, no parent article. Frietjes (talk) 14:56, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:P.Chengalvarayan:ResearchGate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by Luk (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 20:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

I can't see this template ever having any useful purpose. It's another bit of promotion by user:PadmanabaReddiar. Not sure if this qualifies for speedy as a test edit, so here we are. Meters (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Template:PBS Alabama

This navbox doesn't actually navigate "PBS member stations in the state of Alabama" like its title says; it just links to TV market templates, cities in Alabama, and TV network templates. Not an appropriate use of a navbox. Maybe other navboxes in Category:Intrastate PBS templates have the same issue; I haven't looked. — This, that and the other (talk) 12:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, not useful in its current form. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Dated adopt me

no longer needed now that {{subst:adopt me}} adds the date. Frietjes (talk) 12:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Cro-Mags graphical timeline

not used in any articles Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Omphalodes

Delete Another woefully incomplete navbox for the species in a genus. Misleading as it only shows blue links, and would be a sea of red links if complete (see List of Omphalodes species for that sea). Plantdrew (talk) 04:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, better to use the list article and category for navigation. Frietjes (talk) 12:33, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

May 20

Template:2017 bowl game navbox

It's for templates like these I wish we had some sort of T4 parameter. This template is being created seven months before the first game will even be played. I don't mind a refund later, but it doesn't need to be here now. Primefac (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Please save this template from being deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8803:7A00:976A:C9AA:D31E:C121:F76A (talk) 23:46, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't want this template to be deleted save this template. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:C9AA:D31E:C121:F76A (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete for now, but should be refunded once there are more articles. Frietjes (talk) 12:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

no don't Delete it save it. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:49D0:18F6:149C:310A (talk) 13:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Deaf cricket

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Not enough links to merit a navbox. Primefac (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Yes I understand the fact that I couldn't able to provide sources like cricinfo. I accept this deletion nomination. User:Abishe (talk)
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Template:2017 AUDL season

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete per author request Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:21, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Way too many redlinks. The creator of this template appears to be creating more pages, but given that there aren't any other Ultimate seasons, I'm doubtful those pages will be sticking around. Basically, pages first, template later. Primefac (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete -- insufficient navigation. Templates should not be used as "guides" for future article creation. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. Yeah I got a bit ahead of myself making this! Ult580 (talk) 17:37, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Estonian recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross

Redundant to Template:Knight's Cross recipients of the 20th Waffen GD as all of the names on the template under discussion appear on the other template. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:45, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:People associated with Pink Floyd

Redundant to {{Pink Floyd}}, to which any missing names should be added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:32, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:33, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete -- excessive & borders on "fancruft". K.e.coffman (talk) 21:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:La Reine Margot

None of the "characters" originate from the novel, and are in fact real-life historical people. Therefore navbox is only transcluded on five articles, four of which are included at {{Alexandre Dumas}}, rendering the navigational benefit of this navbox negligible. Rob Sinden (talk) 15:28, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Keep As I recall, in general the minimum number of blue links for a subject to be considered a valid template subject is 3. Even without the characters, this subject clearly has three relevant blue links. I am not familiar with a limit to a reason to discount historical characters.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
These relevant blue links are included at {{Alexandre Dumas}}, which renders the navigational benefit of this navbox negligible. As far as the characters go, only characters which Dumas originated should be included. Historical characters could turn up in lots of works. Imagine if Queen Victoria or Abraham Lincoln were included in every navbox for every fictitious work they showed up in, for example. --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:59, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Historical characters belong in the navbox although the navbox does not belong on their pages. You have been shown to not be in the majority in regard to this dichotomy in the past.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
No they don't, and no I haven't. And to not transclude a navbox on a page doesn't allow a navbox to perform in its usual navigational capacity. --14:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Robsinden I think what you are saying is that you have tried over and over again to have WP:BIDIRECTIONAL expanded to support your claim that subjects like historical characters should only be included in templates if the template is included in that historical character article and that over and over again this has not been supported and you don't understand that it has not been supported and thus still believe yourself to be correct even though you are not allowed to include such language in BIDIRECTIONAL.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:13, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Tony, this is a navbox, not an infobox, so unless it provides navigation, it shouldn't be here. Linking to the historical characters can be done from the article. --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Robsinden, Isn't that the same argument that you have made in your repeated unsuccessful attempts to expand WP:BIDERECTIONAL.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:33, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Patience tracks

unused Frietjes (talk) 14:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:7 Days of Funk track listing

only connects two articles Frietjes (talk) 14:09, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Wikispecies redirect

Soft redirect to WikiSpecies which disguises the fact that no Wiki article exists. A bad substitute for {{ill|FizBuz|species|vertical-align=sup}}, which displays as FizBuz[species] and works. Narky Blert (talk) 02:58, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

With the exception of {{Wiktionary redirect}} all of the cross Wikimedia soft redirect templates mentioned above are essentially unused in article space. Delete them all. Do we really need {{Wikibooks redirect}} to get people to [[4]] and [[5]]?Plantdrew (talk) 03:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@Plantdrew: I believe the intended purpose is to keep {{soft redirect}} out of the mainspace, maintain separate categories for each sister site, and offer a bit more explanation to readers reaching the page. Personally, I monitor them (e.g. watch for new ones, make sure a good local target doesn't exist, and check that they are not entirely inappropriate). — Godsy (TALKCONT) 04:31, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
WT:WikiProject Redirect, WT:Soft redirect, and WT:Wikimedia sister projects have been notified about this discussion. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep. I think what needs to happen first of all is a policy discussion somewhere about whether soft redirects to Wikispecies are seen as a good thing. If the conclusion is that we should have them in at least some circumstances then we should keep this template as the correct way to do them. If the other hand the conclusion is that we should not have them, then probably the best thing to do is to convert the template with an error message that informs people trying to use it of this consensus view and what the preferred alternative(s) is/are. In neither scenario is deletion the best course of action. Thryduulf (talk) 07:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep per the first two sentences of the comment made above by Thryduulf. Also, redirects are not just for linking, they also serve to aid searches. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 20:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

May 19

Template:Selangor Labelled Map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Punjab territorial map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Rojava Cantons Labelled Map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Caribbean Labelled Map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Peru Labelled Map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

May 18

Template:Infobox royalty/embed

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete WP:G7. clpo13(talk) 17:08, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

unused and not needed since embedding can be achieved without a subtemplate Frietjes (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete per nominator. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
    to reply to me
    11:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete I have requested a G7. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:History of the papacy

Propose merging Template:History of the papacy with Template:Popes.
The very same content overlapping. Especially now since the type size has been altered, I see even less reason to have part of the content in the larger template dublicated in a smaller one. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:26, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Agree - no need to have same info in two places. JoeHebda • (talk) 17:38, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:South America Labelled Map

unusedGonejackal (talk) 09:02, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Comment This could feasibly be used in a few articles (e.g. South America), although the background map should be replaced with a higher-resolution or SVG version. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
    to reply to me
    11:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
feasible ≠ usefulGonejackal (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
  • delete, not needed. if you want a labelled map, use File:South America-en.svg. the links are not needed since they are already in the article. Frietjes (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
If the links are useful, they could still be included.Gonejackal (talk) 16:33, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
included in what? I said they are already in the article, and the links are in the template which you have nominated for deletion. Frietjes (talk) 15:01, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Dinuralk

The template name doesn't identify what the purpose of the template actually is (there is no article or reference to what DinuraLk actually is or means). There is nothing in any of the individual articles listed on the template that relates or identifies a link back to DinuraLk. Whilst the articles listed on the template are mainly individuals there is also a link to Music of Sri Lanka however there is nothing to identify what these articles have in common. Dan arndt (talk) 07:44, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete; meaningless. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
    to reply to me
    08:36, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

May 17

Template:Dynamo Kursk

single-use template, can be merged with the article; there is no need for a separate template. Frietjes (talk) 21:47, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Substitute and delete per nominator. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
    to reply to me
    11:44, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Question User:Frietjes, you !voted delete here because "the code here is very complex, better to keep it segregated from the article wikitext". Why isn't the code here any less complex?Gonejackal (talk) 18:38, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
    • seems obvious, 5,595 bytes (Africa Labelled Map) vs. 2,356 bytes (Dynamo Kursk). Frietjes (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
That makes no sense. So these templates got segregated from the article because the article had gotten to large?Gonejackal (talk) 22:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I have no idea why these rosters are segregated from the article, which is why I am suggesting that they be merged with the articles. I though that was obvious from the nomination. Frietjes (talk) 13:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Answer the question please.Gonejackal (talk) 01:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep for now I don't see how any of these templates are any less complex than the one that the nominator !voted for keep in Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 April 29#Template:Africa Labelled Map so until a good answer or if the other template is 'Merged then deleted', I see no consistency in determining what sort of template should be retained to prevent needless clutter of "the actual content text", to prevent coding mistakes or both.Gonejackal (talk) 01:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kids' Fun Science Experiments

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete by User:CactusWriter. SporkBot (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Definitely non-encyclopedic. I'm sorry, but this isn't encyclopedic and doesn't meet Wikipedia's basic guidelines. J947(c) 18:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Space: Above and Beyond

Would like other eyes on this one – is there enough in this navbox to justify keeping it?... --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:19, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, redundant to standard "see also" links. clearly the three sub-articles are all well-connected to Space: Above and Beyond, so you really just need two see also links in each sub-article to have them all connected. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

This template seems to serve no useful purpose for two reasons:

  1. It is mis-named and mis-titled, since the overwhelming majority of the links within are not articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but are instead drawn from the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, which means that the 'article numbers' listed are non-sequential and incoherent; and
  2. The links are not to Wikipedia pages about the human rights instruments but to pages about the broader concepts (in some cases a bit tenuous, eg "right to a nationality" linking to nationality - which is nothing to do with the right thereto - and "right to participation in government" linking to public participation, which isn't really the same thing at all. And these are just examples.

Overall, it's a nice idea for a template but on close rexmination it is incoherent, incorrect and unhelpful, and I think ti does more harm than good . Amisom (talk) 13:17, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:DoctorWhoCompanions

This is an un-used template that is a duplicate to the already-existing and well-used Template:Doctor Who companions. The template is also out of date, and the current template has been sufficient for years. The nominated template also cannot be used to separate between the companions of each Doctor, as the articles are currently set up as; the latter template allows for both a full view, and keeping the templates separate. If other additions needed to be added from other media (e.g. comics, audio, novels, etc.), then they can easily be added to the individual templates. -- AlexTW 12:39, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Technically, this has already been done. Everything in the former template is already in the latter; the latter includes even more. The nominated template seems to simply be a project that was created almost four years ago, and then forgotten about and never used. The latter template has existed for over a decade, and is widely used and accepted. Why it failed the speedy delete, I do not know, since it's textbook WP:CSD#T3. -- AlexTW 13:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Merge with {{Doctor Who companions}}. I contested the speedy deletion and although {{DoctorWhoCompanions}} is unsused and out of date, and there is no content to merge, the format is a lot easier to use and aids nagivation better, so it is the format I would like to see merged. That was my reason for contesting, basically because I knew this discussion would happen, since whenever I've tried to suggest template changes on the Doctor Who WikiProject talk page, the discussions have never gone anywhere. Companions in spin-off media can easily be included. It would also mean every Doctor-specific template in Category:Doctor Who companions navigational boxes could be redirected to it, and there would only be a need for a single template instead of 13 templates. —anemoneprojectors— 14:42, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
    • In addition to that, I didn't realise I had already made a userspace draft for what I thought this template should look like, which I did in 2010 (that's how long I've hated {{Doctor Who companions}})! I've updated it to reflect what the merge would look like, it's at User:AnemoneProjectors/Template:Doctor Who companions. This reflects the current subsections in the current templates, and it does look excessively long with lots of whitespace, but I don't see much point in keeping main, recurring and one-off compansions separate, and perhaps companions from spin-off media could be merged together to a single line next to their respective Doctor (which I've now added as a second suggestion). —anemoneprojectors— 15:02, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
      • P.S. Ideally I'd like to see something like User:AnemoneProjectors/Template:Doctor Who characters happen eventually, but it's for a future discussion (and maybe a couple of past ones that trailed off) so no need to comment on that here - however, I don't think it's necessary for a navigational template to give information beyond linking articles together. For example, if I wanted to know which Doctor(s) Martha Jones was affiliated with, I'd just click on Martha Jones, or if I wanted Third Doctor companions, I'd click on Third Doctor. —anemoneprojectors— 15:22, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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That sounds like a good place to hold the conversation. Primefac (talk) 05:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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