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Proposed resolution

The following resolution is an argument in favor of reverting to the South Ossetia based infobox.

Identification of issue:

Articles about Abkhazia as Georgia's autonomous area already exist. However, due to the article's current form, an article for Abkhazia as a partially recognized country (just as we have articles articles for South Ossetia, Kosovo, Transnistria, and Nagorno-Karabakh) remains nonexistent - this is greatly inconsistent (with this article's present form being the inconsistency) and should not be accepted.

This article is to be about Abkhazia: the nation state that has limited de-jure and undeniable de-facto existence. There is information to be presented about South Ossetia whether Georgia's government accepts it or not, the same applies to Abkhazia. We should present all relevant and significant information on the subject of states with limited recognition rather than allowing exceptions to prejudice against certain examples. To reiterate: it is not a factor whether or not the governments of Georgia & etc. recognize Abkhazia (per consensus of partially recognized and unrecognized articles). This necessitates reverting this article to its former version which refers to Abkhazia as a country with limited international recognition.

Note that in other languages, the version I am proposing is already the current state and has remained that way without question. (See the Kabardian, Afrikaans, Abkhazian, Arabic, Aragonese, Asturian, Guarani, Azerbaijani, Bangla, Chinese (Min Nam), Bashkir, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Bavarian, Bosnian, Catalan, Chuvash, Czech, German, Estonian, Greek, Erzya, Spanish, Esperanto, Basque, Faronese, French, Manx, Gagauz, Galician, Kalmyk, Korean, Armenian, etc. This list is incomplete. Note that nearly all languages that lack the proposed infobox are stubs which lack an infobox entirely. If citing this linguistic inconsistency among other accessible versions of the article is to be considered fallacious then you may disregard my reference to other languages though references to other English articles on the subject of partially recognized or unrecognized states still remains.)

(An additional issue, while minor, is that our current infobox, rather than displaying the flag of Abkhazia as it should in a country infobox, uses the flag-icons of Georgia and Abkhazia within it. This violates the recommendation of WP:INFOBOXFLAG, which only adds to the assertion that simply displaying the flag as it should under the "country" template as I advocate for is preferable.)

With that I propose the following:

Points of proposal:

Republic of Abkhazia
  • Аҧсны Аҳәынҭқарра (Abkhaz)
    Aphsny Axwynthkharra
  • Респу́блика Абха́зия (Russian)
    Respublika Abkhaziya
Flag of Abkhazia
Emblem of Abkhazia
Flag Emblem
Anthem: Аиааира (Abkhaz)
Map centered on the Caucasus indicating Abkhazia (orange)and Georgia proper and South Ossetia (grey).
Map centered on the Caucasus indicating Abkhazia (orange)
and Georgia proper and South Ossetia (grey).
and largest city
43°00′N 40°59′E / 43.000°N 40.983°E / 43.000; 40.983
Official languages
Spoken languages
  • Abkhaz
  • Abkhazian
Government Unitary semi-presidential republic
• President
Raul Khajimba
Beslan Bartsits
Legislature People's Assembly (de facto)
Partially recognised independence from Georgia[1]Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

1. Revert the Abkhazia article to [

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