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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent undiscussed controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested move process is not mandatory, and sometimes, an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If a consensus is reached after this time, a mover will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or be as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has not been discussion (especially recent discussion) about the title of the page that expresses any objection to the new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

If you are unable to complete a technical move, request it below. If this is your first article and you want your draft article published, please submit it for review at Articles for Creation, by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or user sandbox page instead of listing it here.

  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code filling in pages and reason:
    {{subst:RMassist| current page title | new page title | reason = reason for move}}
    
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.


Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

Contested technical requests

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. The move is potentially controversial if any of the following apply:

  • There is an existing article (not just a redirect) at the target title;
  • There has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • Someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. In particular, use this process before moving any existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page at that title. For technical move requests (e.g. spelling and capitalization fixes), see Requesting technical moves.

Do not put more than one open move request on the same article talk page, because this is not supported by the bot that handles updates to this page. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Requesting a single page move

To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

Replace NewName with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 20 August 2018" and sign the post for you.

Use the code |talk=yes to add separate locations for survey and discussion.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the article:

Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as RfC, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topic.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications, e.g. this page is transcluded to here. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or Noticeboard that might be interested in the move request.

Requesting multiple page moves

A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia, and replace current2 with Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.

Template usage examples and notes
Talk page tag Text that will be shown (and usage notes)
{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why}}
links talk edit
Requested move 20 August 2018

Wikipedia:Requested movesNew – why Example (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
Requested move 20 August 2018

Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
Requested move 20 August 2018

Wikipedia:Requested movesNew – why Example (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2018‎ (UTC)

Survey
Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Discussion
Any additional comments:



This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move |new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
Requested move 20 August 2018

– why Example (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).

{{subst:Requested move |new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
Requested move 20 August 2018

– why Example (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Commenting in a requested move

All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. It is a place for rational discussion of whether an article should be renamed.

There are a number of practices that most Wikipedians use in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they usually do so in bold text, e. g., Support or Oppose, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding ~~~~ to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s).
  • Please disclose whether you have a vested interest in the article, per WP:AVOIDCOI.
  • Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator or other editors. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior Requested Moves. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Ideally editors should be familiar with WP:Article titles, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:MOS (among others) which sets forth community norms for article titles.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments.
  • When making your case or responding to others, explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between <s> and </s> after the *, as in "• Support Oppose".

Also, just a reminder that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current Requested Move process.

Closing instructions

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting

Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}, which also signs it automatically, and is placed at the very end of the initial request (after their signature, and subsequent re-listers signatures). When a discussion has been relisted a bot partially underlines the "Discuss" link in the lists of debates: (Discuss).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as to notify relevant WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Applicable WikiProjects can often be determined by means of the banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request.

Current discussions

This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 30 discussions have been relisted, indicated by (Discuss)

August 20, 2018

August 19, 2018

  • (Discuss)Royal Scot Locomotive and General TrustLocomotive Services LimitedJeremy Hosking has developed and expanded around the Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust a set of companies to maintain and operate trains. The article has developed to cover this with Locomotive Services Limited currently existing as a redirect. A good faith attempt was made to expand that to its own article but a WP:CFORK immediately developed so it was reverted to a re-direct. The choice of 'Locomotive Services Limited' as the article name is driven by use of the abbreviation LSL being used in the media/social media for the operation and by the about link on http://www.locomotiveservices.co.uk/ leading to http://www.iconsofsteam.com/about/ which indicates LSL association to the other companies and that it owns the tradenames and copyrights. This move should lead to improved article development and reduce risk of content fork Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)GobyGobiidae – The article is about the family, the vernacular name Goby is applied to lots of fish in other families in the Gobiiformes, e.g. Oxudercidae Quetzal1964 (talk) 09:25, 11 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 18:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

August 18, 2018

  • (Discuss)Sinn Féin Republican YouthÓgra Shinn Féin – The organisation has chaned its name.[1] This can also be seen on its offical website and all its official social media pages. Search engine results for Sinn Féin Republican Youth also redirect to Ógra Shinn Féin and media reports from April 2018 to present refer to it as Ógra Shinn Féin.[2][3][4] Helper201 (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Nobody's BusinessNobody's Business (comic) – Songs exist called Nobody's Business and Ain't Nobody's Business, both of which have WP articles. This comic certainly doesn't seem notable enough to warrant being the primary topic under this title. There is currently a Nobody's Business (comic) article with a redirect to this article. I propose to make the primary article a redirect to a disambiguation page that I can write. Jbening (talk) 18:14, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Bisque porcelainBiscuit porcelain – As people have been complaining above for 10 years, this is the more correct term, used by the great majority of RS, such as museums on both sides of the Atlantic, except in the specialized area of porcelain dolls, where "bisque" is still strong. Eg George Savage & Harold Newman, An illustrated dictionary of ceramics., Thames & Hudson, Reprint 2000: "Article "Bisque": Bisque (French) A term erroneously applied to BISCUIT ware." Google books: "Bisque porcelain", 4,490 hits; "Biscuit porcelain", 8,840 hits. Also see Britannica, Victoria & Albert Museum, Metropolitan Museum, New York, Getty Thesaurus has "biscuit" but also "bisque doll". Johnbod (talk) 15:07, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Oliver Queen (Arrow)Oliver Queen (Arrowverse) – As per discussion at Talk:John Diggle (Arrowverse). Contrary to the impression some contributors have, 'Arrowverse' is a term used for a specific series of DC shows, airing on the CW, used by WB execs, series producers and the press as a franchise name for all media under this umbrella. Characters in the series exist and feature across the franchise, rather than solely on one specific television show. As per previous discussions at John Diggle (Arrowverse), where disambiguation is required, the franchise name would seem the most suitable disambiguator. AutumnKing (talk) 12:20, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

August 17, 2018

  • (Discuss)Bosnian Coarse-haired HoundBosnian Broken-haired Hound – This breed only has two standardized names in English: Bosnian Broken-haired Hound and Barak; the former is an internationally standardized one, the latter is an Americanism [See below: the int'l. org. also accepts Barak.] "Bosnian Coarse-haired Hound" is cited to nothing but some unreliable blog.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  17:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC); revised: 14:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 19:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Glan ConwyLlansanffraid Glan Conwy – This is the name of both the settlement and community. Glan Conwy is the name of a place near Betws-y-Coed. There is a Commons category for "Glan Conwy" for the village and "Llansanffraid Glan Conwy" for the community, I think this is because it was thought that Glan Conwy was the name of the village and Llansanffraid Glan Conwy the name of the community, but the village appears to also be Llansanffraid Glan Conwy. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)WAR (wrestling promotion)Wrestle Association R – The abbreviated name of this promotion is WAR, however that article title cannot be used as it's already used by War (disambiguation), a disambiguation page for other uses of the word. Per WP:NATURALDIS, an alternative naming option can be: Natural disambiguation: Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title. - in this case, the full name of WAR is Wrestle Association R (the previous name was Wrestle and Romance which shouldn't be considered as a former name). The article was unsourced but I was able to find sources talking about the promotion such as: ""Y2J" has been competing in professional wrestling since 1990 when he began working for small promotions such as Wrestling and Romance/Wrestle Association R", same quote, "Chris Jericho is no stranger to Japan. He wrestled for Wrestling and Romance (now known as Wrestle Association "R") in 1994", "Well, it is until you find out that WAR stood for Wrestle Association R or, bizarrely, Wrestle and Romance" and non-English source "La última lucha individual que Rey Mysterio tuvo para una empresa japonesa, ocurrió el 13 de diciembre de 1996 en el Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan en la función “WAR Ryogoku Crush Night” con motivo de la defensa del Campeonato J-Crown en Wrestle Association-R (WAR)" Gonnym (talk) 13:15, 6 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)James Addison Baker the elderJames A. Baker (born 1821) – Currently James A. Baker Sr. is a redirect to James A. Baker (born 1857). This is a faulty disambiguation for all of the reasons cited in a previous discussion of a successful move. Please see the move discussion at Talk:James A. Baker (born 1857). A summary of the problem: there are four men within a family succession named James Addison Baker (JAB), though the fourth person of this group is named JAB III, and the third person is named JAB Jr. This fourth person is James Addison Baker III, former cabinet secretary and the primary topic for James Baker. This part is uncontroversial. However, the unorthodox naming leads to confusion about these other JABs, hence the move. Each article explains the naming in lede, and each article has disambiguation hat notes for James Addison Baker. In the last two steps to bring coherence to these articles, James Addison Baker the elder should be moved to James A. Baker (born 1821) per WP:CONSISTENCY with the redirect James A. Baker Sr. pointing to the JAB born in 1821. Sometimes WP:CONSISTENCY has been interpreted writ large, but in this case of a family with non-standard naming practices, it would make sense to interpret WP:CONSISTENCY narrowly; that is, in the naming of the articles for JABs. WP:COMMONNAME is no help since that is Judge James A. Baker, a practice proscribed by MOS:TITLE. Thank you, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

August 16, 2018

  • (Discuss)Thoroughbred horse racingThoroughbred racing – The term Thoroughbred only ever refers to a breed of horse, rendering the inclusion of "horse" in the title redundant. This sport is known worlwide as Thoroughbred racing. The origin of this page was as a simple list of races, and it has long since evolved. Ssaco (talk) 22:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 21:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)BILANZBilanz – The title of this magazine is the German word Bilanz ('balance sheet' or 'end result') and it is written without all capitals, as in the titles of the German and French articles. Aretha Othis Slobsuges (talk) 19:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Lab Rats (U.S. TV series)Lab Rats – According to the page views, roughly 92% 94% of people searching for Lab Rats within the last year are searching for the Disney XD series. The exact number, as of this post, is 9,639 193,272 views, significantly higher than the other pages listed there—as the second highest is only 319 5,477 views—with the third page listed there just being a disambiguation page and the last page listed there just being a redirect to that disambiguation page. As such, Lab Rats (U.S. TV series) is very clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should just be under the title of Lab Rats. It's also sufficiently disambiguated from Laboratory rat and is not a problem. Amaury (talk | contribs) 17:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Sinn Féin Republican Youth Returns To Better Known Title, Ógra Shinn Féin. An Sionnach Fionn. Published 31 March 2018. Retrieved 18 August 2018.
  2. ^ Sinn Féin bring GAA coverage campaign to BBC and RTÉ. The Irish News. Author - Áine Quinn. Published 7 July 2018. Retrieved 18 August 2018.
  3. ^ Sinn Féin rejects motion for conscience vote on abortion law. The Irish Times. Author - Fiach Kelly. Published 16 June 2018. Retrieved 18 August 2018.
  4. ^ Sinn Fein leader sets timetable for Irish unity referendum. Belfast Telegraph. Published 1 April 2018. Retrieved 18 August 2018.
  5. ^ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F0qb571h,%2Fm%2F08brxl
  6. ^ https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-30&pages=Yellow_Claw%7CYellow_Claw_(DJs)

The editor whose username is Z0 14:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

  • (Discuss)Sea breeze → ? – The name should be "Land and sea breeze" or "Sea and land breeze" or similar, let's discuss which name is best. The existing page covers "Land breeze" and no separate page exists for that. Taylor 49 (talk) 10:40, 9 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. The editor whose username is Z0 12:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Dragon 2Crew Dragon – Recent announcements from SpaceX and NASA have consistently called this new capsule "Crew Dragon".[6][7][8][9] Same for recent media reports.[10][11][12][13] The "Dragon 2" moniker is nowhere to be seen. — JFG talk 12:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Armadio della vergognaCabinet of shame – The current Italian language name of the article means little to non-Italien speaking readers. Being the English Wikipedia an English translation would be more suitable. The Jerusalem Post and CNN use Cabinet of shame, others use Wardrobe of shame, like The Telegraph. Whatever the choice, I think it should be an English language title. Turismond (talk) 04:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

August 15, 2018

  • (Discuss)William R. Tolbert Jr.William TolbertWP:PRIMARYTOPIC due to no other notable people with the William Tolbert name, as well as WP:COMMONNAME. My search of the Vanderbilt Television News Archive, which archives the three major US television newscasts dating back to 1968, returns only one result for "William R. Tolbert" but 13 for "William Tolbert". United Press International wire service omitted the middle initial more often, as "William Tolbert" Liberia site:upi.com returns 26 results to eight for "William R Tolbert" Liberia site:upi.com. Time used "William Tolbert" in this April 28, 1980 story after his assassination. The BBC website has more results (24) for "William Tolbert" Liberia site:bbc.co.uk vs. only three for "William R. Tolbert" site:bbc.co.uk. Scholarly works that omit his middle initial include the 2002 book Liberian Politics: The Portrait by African American Diplomat J. Milton Turner, 2004 book The Price of Liberty: African Americans and the Making of Liberia and 2014 book Genocide & Persecution: Liberia. Arbor to SJ (talk) 23:31, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Zero BooksJohn Hunt Publishing – Zero Books isn't really a "publisher" of its own, but is an "imprint" of John Hunt Publishing (basically a brand, like "Nature Valley" is a granola bar company, and Nature Valley’s "Oats 'n Honey Granola Crunch" is a brand). See https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/our-imprints.html. Zero Books is probably the biggest imprint, but it operates under the same John Hunt Publishing central office and by the same business practices as all tho others, so the article should actually be rewritten to be about the publisher with a large section on this, its largest imprint. Hyperbolick (talk) 20:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Giant pandaPanda – There was a recent move discussion about the primary topic of panda with the consensus that the giant panda is the primary topic. I suggest moving this article to a more concise title to reflect this. 23.25.229.66 (talk) 17:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Gunnar D. HanssonGunnar D Hansson – Move back to "Gunnar D Hansson" according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Initials for example see https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n82246869/ VisbyStar (talk) 09:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Cecil the SagehenPomona-Pitzer Sagehens – It'd be more appropriate to name the page after the sports team than after the team's mascot. However, a redirect page for the team already exists, so I'm not sure technically how to do this. Sdkb (talk) 05:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)HTML5HTML 5 – Updating article title to match the article contents which state that HTML 5 is now the correct name. Dónal O'Flynn (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

August 14, 2018

  • (Discuss)FC Petržalka akadémiaFC Petržalka – The club changed its name and logo in 2017. The word "akadémia" has been removed from the title more than a year ago. http://futbalnet.sk/klub/9097/ http://futbalnet.sk/klub/9097/tim/29113/ Zts-fan (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 21:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Template:NSFWTemplate:DNSW – This has been bothering me for several days now. There is a serious problem with using an existing well known internet shorthand for a template with a completely different meaning. "NSFW" means Not safe for work and is universally used to refer to material which would considered graphic content or adult rated. The corresponding shortcut WP:NSFW is a shorthand for Wikipedia:Pornography for this reason. This usage is well established enough to be a dictionary definition.[24][25][26][27][28][29][30] This template is for tagging unsuitable drafts and not for tagging obscene content so I propose that this template is renamed to a less confusing shorthand. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:59, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Unite the RightUnite the Right (Canada)Unite the Right rally has been blowing this page away in views, even before its anniversary and Unite the Right 2 came into play. (It also strikes me as confusing that articles titled "Unite the Right" and "Unite the Right 2" are about different things.) For now, I would propose creation of a disambiguation page at the base title, but would probably agree with considering the Charlottesville rally WP:PRIMARYTOPIC if discussion leads that way. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Richard Hunniwell HouseHunnewell House – Incorrect spelling of namesake's surname + the common name does not include the namesake's first name "Richard". The town and community use the "Hunnewell" spelling. [32] [33] [34] [35]. The name is also written on the sign in front of the house [36]. A quick web and history book search will show the correct/common name spelling of noted captain and Indian fighter of Maine to be "Richard Hunnewell". 67.246.236.153 (talk) 05:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Bill Armstrong (American politician)William L. Armstrong – I realize that my previous move request was a mistake, because I found that "William" is the far more common name for this US Senator from Colorado than Bill, based on the following evidence. * The Vanderbilt Television News Archive shows far more results for "William Armstrong" senator (55) than "Bill Armstrong" senator (3). This means that during his political career, the three major US evening news shows (ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News) preferred to use "William Armstrong" in the on-screen chryons and story content. * C-SPAN consistently used "Sen. William Armstrong" in its on-screen chyrons when Armstrong was in the Senate [37]. * Google shows nearly three times as many uses of "William" than "Bill" - there are 11.5k results for "Bill Armstrong" Colorado senator, vs. 17k for "William Armstrong" Colorado senator and 16k for "William L. Armstrong" Colorado senator. * Furthermore, national publications The New York Times and The Washington Post have consistently used "William L. Armstrong" in stories whether during his career (1979 WaPo, 1983 NYT, 1987 NYT, 1988 WaPo, 1989 NYT) or in their obituaries ("William L. Armstrong, a Colorado news media executive who became a strong conservative voice in the United States Senate, died on Tuesday" (NYT); "William L. Armstrong, Republican senator from Colorado, dies at 79" (WaPo) * Scholarly works also use "William" more often, such as the 1993 textbook Colorado Politics & Government: Governing the Centennial State. * Because "William L. Armstrong" has nearly as many online search results related to the senator as just plain "William Armstrong", WP:NATURALDIS can also apply. While the senator might have been informally known as "Bill" within his home state of Colorado, throughout the US he was better known as "William". Arbor to SJ (talk) 04:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

August 13, 2018

  • (Discuss)Lex Rex (album)Lex Rex – "Lex Rex" currently redirects to Lex, Rex, a 1644 book. Since the name is not exactly "Lex Rex" unlike the album, a simple "for the book see Lex, Rex" at the top of the album's article should be enough, and the name of the album's article should be shortened. Hyliad (talk) 17:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Crisis in Venezuela (2012–present)Crisis in Venezuela (2010–present) – Previously moved this to the proposed title, but it was deemed controversial. The current title with the "(2012-present)" is the result of my own interpretation as to when the crisis began. However, sources give us a definitive date of 2 June 2010,[1][2][3] when President Chávez first declared an "economic war" because of shortages in Venezuela. The current title has no support from sources and (2010-present) should be used due to the support of reliable sources. --ZiaLater (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz talk | contribs 15:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Elapsed listings

  • (Discuss)Freston, SuffolkFrestonWP:PRECISION, this is the only only topic ambiguous with "Freston". Per WP:NAMELIST they are PTMs and we don't have an article on the surname, nor does Surname DB have an entry for it. The surname probably derives from this place although it could also come from Monk, Water, and Ferry Fryston [38]. Vision of Britain says it was an alternative name for Friston but that doesn't appear to be common. Yes as explained the PT may be at a different title to the ambiguous term but that's usually because a topic has multiple ways of being refereed to like Cars, Libel and Petrol but no one would expect to find most people who's surname is such located at the unqualified name. I would also point out that Sidbury is cuurently located at the base name even though there are multiple uses of "Sidbury" as well as surname holders, Wickham was also but this is not the case with "Freston". Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Mass killings under communist regimesCommunist states and mass killing – Some users have expressed support for this name by analogy with United States and state terrorism or United States and state-sponsored terrorism. The current name with "by" in the title is at one end of the spectrum of clarity vs. neutrality, drawing a clear causality between the governments and the mass killings, and leaving it up to the text to explain to what degree any or all examples might be disputed. The proposed title is at the other end of the spectrum, not implying that any communist government has ever caused a mass killing, but creating a page for such accusations to be made and defended against. It's worth noting this article is needed at least partly as a detail subarticle of Criticism of communist party rule. I'm asking this mostly as a "better or worse?" question. It's still useful to know if you support the proposed title more than the current one even if there is some third title you support even more (and feel free to say what that is). Beland (talk) 00:56, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)King George VI and Queen Elizabeth MemorialGeorge VI and Queen Elizabeth Memorial – This article was recently moved by Keivan.f from its original title, George VI and Queen Elizabeth Memorial, to George VI and Elizabeth Memorial and, after I undid the move, to its current title of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Memorial. I propose reverting to the original title, as I think it best follows the following policies: * WP:NAMINGCRITERIA (specifically precision, concision and consistency with other article titles for statues) * WP:SOVEREIGN ("Article titles are not normally prefixed with "King", "Queen", "Emperor" or equivalent.") Previous discussion on the use of "king" in article titles for statues in London can be found here. Ham II (talk) 08:16, 2 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz talk | contribs 21:24, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Canfield (solitaire)Demon (solitaire) – Calling this game Canfield is very confusing as it is also the traditional English name for the very popular game of Klondike (solitaire). On the other hand, "Demon" is the traditional name for this game (even the category is called Demon solitaire card games) as per card expert, Parlett's The History of Card Games, so this move would resolve that confusion. Canfield (solitaire) could then become a dab page pointing to both. Bermicourt (talk) 21:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Little Falls and Dakota DepotStarbuck station – Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations), which is the standard guideline for article titles concerning railroad stations in the United States. This guideline enjoys wide consensus and has underwritten hundreds if not thousands of page moves on this project for the last several years. "Little Falls and Dakota Depot" is one of several names used on the registration form for the National Register of Historic Places (the other, "Northern Pacific Depot", is even more ambiguous). It is not a WP:COMMONAME for the station, but rather a descriptive named used in one official document. While the NRHP process is important, the names it produces are not always suitable for article titles. This is one such case. "Little Falls and Dakota" refers to the company which originally built the station. The station is located in Starbuck, which is how contemporary timetables, including those of the Northern Pacific Railway, referred to it. The current title is confusing, especially considering that another Northern Pacific depot, "Little Falls", was some 68 miles away on the same branch line. Mackensen (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz talk | contribs 20:40, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Vivian (hurricane)Storm Vivian – The merger was carried out by a non-admin who didn't take account of the discussion about the title. Having carried out some research (see above discussion), the most WP:COMMONNAME appears to be "Storm Vivian", followed by "Winter Storm Vivian". Neither Cyclone Vivian nor Hurricane Vivian are strongly supported by the sources. Bermicourt (talk) 16:22, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Donetsian Coal BasinDonets Coal Basin – There is no such name as Donetsian Coal Basin. It is a Wikipedia invention. Donets Coal Basin or Donets Basin are the proper names for it. Since Donets Basin is used for a pro-Russian cultural region in Ukraine, Donets Coal Basin could be a good alternative to emphasize the transnational industrial region. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:06, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Backlog

  • (Discuss)Fan (machine)Mechanical fan – On the page Wikipedia:Disambiguation, in the section Naming the specific topic articles, in this sentence Natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation; for instance mechanical fan and hand fan are used instead of fan (mechanical) and fan (implement)., Mechanical fan is called Fan (machine). Can you please move Fan (machine) to Mechanical fan so that it maintains its accuracy? Thank you. 2601:196:8400:C90:A47C:38B4:C9D2:F297 (talk) 14:56, 3 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. usernamekiran(talk) 18:32, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Rocket Girls (band) → ? – - the Chinese name is 火箭少女101, which means Rocket Girls 101. I don't know how 101 could be left out. https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/crop.0.0.1420.800/8a533d85ly1fsmf6wqhzzj213i0m8h5c.jpg H2254625 –(talk) 07:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)BelgaumBelagavi – Belgaum was one of the 12 cities in Karnataka that had its name changed to a more faithful romanization of the local language name in October 2014. Unlike Bangalore, the new name has caught on since the last RM and its usage significantly outstrips the old one. The "News" tab of Google, which significantly favours newer sources, gives about 50,000 hits for "Belgaum", but over 200,000 hits for "Belagavi". This is also reflected in NewsBank, where a search for "Belgaum" with a date range of 1 August 2016 till this day gives about 900 results, but over 8,000 results for "Belagavi". Both names rarely feature in news outside of India, with results for all the continents (with Asia's total excluding India's, of course) are in single or low double digits. As per our policy of giving extra weight to reliable sources published after the name change, the article's name should be changed to "Belagavi". —Gazoth (talk) 05:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Amsterdam Arena → ? – The stadium has been officially renamed as the "Johan Cruijff Arena" (stylised as "ArenA", though per MOS:TMCAPS/MOS:TM most independent sources do not follow this). The official name of the stadium (1, 2, 3) uses the Dutch spelling (Cruijff), which is used on UEFA's match page, though many English language articles (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) use the anglicised version (Cruyff). Therefore I propose two options: Option 1: Johan Cruijff Arena (official name/Dutch spelling), or Option 2: Johan Cruyff Arena (anglicised version). S.A. Julio (talk) 07:03, 1 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 16:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)YaoiBoys Love (BL)? – As the article itself mentions, the most commonly used term for the kind of media described in this article in Japan is Boys Love or BL, also sometimes written Boys' Love and Boy's Love. It is the official name of the commercial sub-genre in Japanese media industries; additionally, current scholarship, even English language scholarship on the topic, use this as the primary or umbrella term (see McClelland, Nagaike, Suganuma, and Welker eds. Boys Love Manga and Beyond: history, culture, and community in Japan; and Levi, McHarry, and Pagliossotti eds. Boys' Love Manga: essays on the sexual ambiguity and cross-cultural fandom of the genre). There is room in the article to mention that Yaoi is still commonly used in English-speaking contexts and a separate Wikipedia article on Yaoi fandom to contextualize this. Katsumi 1020 (talk) 01:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

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