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April 18

Victorian-era servants in haunted houses

Why are modern haunted houses often portrayed in a Victorian-style house with Victorian servants? Apparently, poor people can't haunt their own houses. And the servants are white, even though To kill a mockingbird actually had a black servant for the Finch family. There were likely more black people then, because I remember watching a documentary about soul food and how black servants influenced American cuisine. (talk) 11:53, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

This article has a good overview. --Jayron32 12:20, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Jayron's article, though interesting, principally references ghost stories written and set in Victorian Britain (where of course, there were relatively very few Black people, servants or not*) and more recent stories also set in Britain which reuse the older tropes. Your query appears to focus on ghosts in the USA (with which, being British, I am less familiar), but your first sentence is unclear – do you mean that the houses supposedly haunted in the USA today disproportionally date from the 19th century?
*From relevant Wikipedia articles, the USA's population in 1890 was very roughly 12% Black (71/2 million out of 63m total): I haven't found a good source for the equivalent UK figures, but out of a total around 35m I'd be surprised if the Black population was as much as 100,000 or 0.3%. {If delving into this, be aware that US and UK definitions of "Black" were/are not equivalent and were historically fluid.)
{The poster formerly known as} (talk) 14:39, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
A haunted prairie-style house or mobile home wouldn't have the dramatic effect of a Victorian mansion. Just imagine if Norman Bates' house was a one-story stucco. Just wouldn't seem as foreboding. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:57, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
The novel, Holes, takes place in Texas, I think. Camp Green Lake used to be a lake, until it got cursed for racism. (talk) 21:24, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Movie scene which I shouldn't have been watching

So, back in the early to mid 80s when I was a kid, I saw on either HBO or the Movie Channel a movie I most certainly should not have been watching. The scene I remember was these men spying on a house, I think they were hiding across the street in another house but also have memories of something involving a helicopter. Anyway, they are watching this couple have sex and the guy is horny, not wanting to wait until the woman is turned on. Over the spy audio, they hear the woman start moaning, "No! I'm not ready!" Fill in the rest. Does anyone remember this movie? I should add that for a while after that, being a smart kid that I would was, I would respond "No, I'm not ready!" in the same as the tone as the movie whenever my parents asked me to do something I didn't want to do. -O.R.Comms 21:19, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Is List of films featuring surveillance of any help ? StuRat (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
It is "Let the good times roll" followed by surveillance saying "Not yet! Not yet!" followed by "I'm not ready!" (talk) 00:24, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Blue Thunder came out in 1983. It has a helicopter. And the pilots of it use the "whisper mode" to spy on various people. Sometimes private citizens. Though, I can't remember the specific "I'm not ready!" line. †dismas†|(talk) 00:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
OMG, it was Blue Thunder! I saw the film last night, almost exactly halfway through the spy helicopter sees a highway patrolman who has pulled into a house to have an affair with this other man's wife who is home alone. The audio mics pick up his aggressive grunts as she exclaims, "No! I'm not ready!". The spy helicopter then broadcasts her cries on its loudspeaker. Great detective work! Great memories! Amazing that I was able to see that at 9 or 10 years old, no parental control I guess at my house back in those days. -O.R.Comms 16:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Glad I could help! I remember the scene, now that you mention it. †dismas†|(talk) 20:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Song cover

Hi, just wondering if anyone can help. A cover version of the Tears for Fears song "Shout" was used in a party election broadcast for the Green Party of England and Wales earlier this evening. Does anyone know who the singer is? I tried to get Shazam to recognise it, but without success, so thought I'd try here. It was quite a haunting rendition, I thought. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 22:35, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure because I didn't hear what you heard, but I have a version playing in regular rotation by Duncan Sheik which is fairly recent (2011) and could be described as "haunting". Its from his Covers 80's album. Maybe that is it?--Jayron32 01:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The video is here [1]. In the comments below the singer identifies herself, her name is Georgia Grace and the band is called Goodbye Grace. The song is not available anywhere except on this vid. --Viennese Waltz 08:20, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Good find! --Jayron32 13:38, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Going with VW's link, I found the band's facebook page here. Maybe if you write them, they can tell you where you can get another recording of the song. --Jayron32 13:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Or you can just download the audio using keepvid. It won't be stellar sound quality, but it'll be perfectly listenable. --Viennese Waltz 13:54, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for tracking this down guys. Perhaps they'll consider giving it a commercial release now it's been featured on something. This is Paul (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

April 19

UK food show

What was the name of that shows in the UK where 2/3 people got some food from the store and then traveled the world to see how it was made? tHNKS.Lihaas (talk) 04:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Could it be Food Unwrapped on Channel 4? --Canley (talk) 06:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
YES! thank you.Lihaas (talk) 14:06, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Am I the only one who initially thought this meant 2 out of 3 people, but didn't understand why a show would only do that for 2 out of 3 people, and only realise on re-reading the question it must mean 2 or 3 people? Nil Einne (talk) 14:38, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


Why does playing any stravisnky always sound so way better when one's instrument is slightly out of tune? Argonautz (talk) 05:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't find that it does. If you find that, it may be your ears which are slightly out of tune as well. Wymspen (talk) 09:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
De gustibus non est disputandum is the only way to answer this question for you. --Jayron32 12:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The OP might enjoy Florence Foster Jenkins. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:20, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Having heard them in tune so much that this sound has become "repetitive and boring" might make a slightly out of tune instrument sound "new and refreshing". This is similar to the concept of the beauty mark, a minor flaw which makes an otherwise "boring" look unique. StuRat (talk) 14:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
In music, this is called tension broadly. Something (a note from a chord or scale, a beat in a regular rhythm, etc.) is missing or off, and the brain notices and anticipates or expects the "off" part to be fixed, which is music is called resolution. Music theory 101 is all about generating tension so that one can later generate resolution. --Jayron32 18:34, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
First of all, we don't know "which instrument" you play Argonautz, so no one can really, fully comment; and secondly: because of this: it's safe to say this is a clever musical witticism meant to pass as a joke. Since the only "solo" instrument Uncle Igor ever wrote for was piano (which strings could be "out of tune" with themselves); but a solo instrument rehearsing their part from an orchestral work couldn't be "out of tune" with itself. So by your question: "when one's instrument is slightly out of tune" implies various instruments across the board ... hence: a joke. Good one. Maineartists (talk) 19:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Minor nitpick, but "Uncle Igor" did in fact compose an Elegy for Solo Viola for Germain Prévost (founding member of the Pro Arte Quartet) in 1944. See also our article on Élégie. Personally, I don't think it would sound better played on a viola slightly out of tune. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I am quite in earnest, and sorry I should have said violin. Some of his chordal arrangements (particularly in Orpheus I think) sound false unless on occasion one is out of tune in the right way, when they become sublime. Try it. Argonautz (talk) 23:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Are you referring to intonation, as in choosing (whether intuitively or consciously) where to use, say, just intonation and where not? This is a certainly a "thing" among string players (which I am not), but I don't think Stravinsky's work can be singled out here. See for example this discussion at ---Sluzzelin talk 23:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

April 21

Newer Kindle, better or just same ?

Can someone please tell me that is the 300 ppi resolution of the new Amazon Kindle really and noticeably clearer than the old 160 (or thereabouts) ppi of its lesser teammates. Is it worthy enough a difference to justify the price-gap between the low and higher resolution gadgets ? (talk) 00:02, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Reviews don't seem to be saying that it's "just same". See for example "Kindle Paperwhite 2015: tech specs, reviews, comparisons, and more" at How much you are (or should be) willing to pay for these improvements depends on a lot of things, and is not something we can answer. ---Sluzzelin talk 00:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

"I Love It When You Call Me Names"

I wonder if anyone who's seen the video for this Joan Armatrading song can confirm if that's Adrian Belew playing guitar & singing back-up. Joefromrandb (talk) 19:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's not, but the video on a certain website isn't the best quality. --TammyMoet (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Are you referring to the official "live" video from the tour here: [2]? If so, I agree: no. This may be the original track with the named musicians playing from the audio; but the video is not of the band members (the sync is off with Armatrading's vocals). Maineartists (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes I was. I was hesitant to link to You Tube, as I've heard conflicting things regarding its acceptability (re copyrights). Someone had told me Belew was part of her back-up band. I didn't think it was he, but I couldn't be sure. Thank you! Joefromrandb (talk) 00:45, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

April 22

Zee tv

A long time ago, there was a Hindi zee tv series involving a husband, wife, son, & a ghost woman chick?( (talk) 06:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC))?

Most common figurative imaginations of Romeo & Juliet

Do Wikipedians imagine Romeo & Juliet usually like this?

When there is talk about Romeo & Juliet - what image/impersonation of them that will usually come to people's minds? Google image search implies a huge edge for a specific film version, but this is just a weak indication. For sure the answer will vary through countries, ages etc. - so, what will an old English gentleman imagine when Romeo & Juliet are mentioned? Which image will be triggered in an American working class teenage girl? --KnightMove (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I would say, yes, either at the balcony or on their death beds. No other image would be associated with the two unless you were a true scholar. My vote would be for Frank Dicksee's painting: [3]
The above painting is unknown to me (neither English nor a gentleman), but I certainly recall scenes with the young actors cast in Franco Zeffirelli's 1968 film adaptation. Being a teen myself at that time, it seemed quite convincing and remained unsupplanted after I viewed the play staged at San Diego's Old Globe Theatre ca. 1974. -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
For those of us of a certain age Franco's film will often be the first to spring to mind. For a younger generation Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet may be the one they think of first. The BBC Television Shakespeare#Romeo .26 Juliet was noted for casting Rebecca Saire who was closer in age to the Juliet of the play than was usual at the time. While it won't usually get a mention Bernstein's West Side Story is a version that may be as well known to some (again this could be geneerational) as the original play. MarnetteD|Talk 16:08, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
I think it's quickly becoming an answer based on generation: Leonardo DiCaprio / Claire Danes (teenage), Zeffirelli (1960), Carlei (2013), certain paintings, plays/musicals, etc. Is there one definitive answer to this question? perhaps not, since it is subjective based on age, it seems; and not objective based on overall education. Maineartists (talk) 16:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
The following 'balcony scene' by Sir Francis Bernard Dicksee (ca. 1881) evidently appeals to multiple generations; in 2012 it was dubbed the "most romantic work of art on display in England":
2606:A000:4C0C:E200:984A:CA94:A2BD:E53B (talk) 19:39, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Interestingly, there was no balcony in Shakespeare's play, but it has nevertheless come to be indelibly a part of the usual staging. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:36, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Another interesting analysis: [4] --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:984A:CA94:A2BD:E53B (talk) 00:25, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

April 23

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