Wikipedia:Files for discussion

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Files for discussion (FfD) is for listing images and other media files which are unneeded or have either free content or non-free content usage concerns. Files that have been listed here for more than 7 days are eligible for either deletion or removal from pages if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to deletion or removal have been raised. To quote the non-free content criteria, "it is the duty of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; those seeking to remove or delete it are not required to show that one cannot be created." For undeletion requests, first contact the administrator who deleted the file. If you are unable to resolve the issue with that administrator, the matter should be brought to deletion review.

Examples of what files you may request for discussion, deletion or change here:

  • Obsolete – The file has been replaced by a better version.
  • Orphan – The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia.
  • Unencyclopedic – The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in any Wikimedia project.
  • Low quality – The file is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns.
  • Copyright violation – The file might be used in violation of copyright.
  • Possibly unfree – The file is tagged with a freeness claim, but may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States.
  • NFCC violation – The file is used under a claim of fair use but does not meet the requirements.
  • NFCC applied to free image – The file is used under a claim of fair use, but the file is either too simple, or is an image which has been wrongly labeled given evidence presented on the file description page.
  • Wrong license or status - The file is under one license, but the information on the file description pages suggests that a different license is more appropriate, or a clarification of status is desirable.
  • Wrongly claimed as own - The file is under a 'self' license, but the information on the file description pages suggests otherwise.

If you have questions if something should be deleted, consider asking at Media Copyright Questions.

What not to list here

  1. For concerns not listed below, if a deletion is uncontroversial, do not use this process. Instead tag a file with {{subst:prod}}. However, if the template is removed, please do not reinsert it; list the file for deletion then.
  2. For speedy deletion candidates as well, do not use this page; instead use one of the speedy deletion templates. See the criteria for speedy deletion. These are: duplicates (where both files are on Wikipedia), thumbnails, broken files, non-existent files, non-commercial, "by permission" files and files which are not an image, sound file or video clip and have no encyclopedic use.
  3. Files that have no source, have an unknown copyright, are unused or replaceable non-free, or are non-free without rationale can be marked so that they will be deleted after a week, and should not be listed on this page. Add one of the following to the file page:
    1. {{subst:nsd}} if a file has no source indicated
    2. {{subst:nld}} if a file has a source but no licensing information
    3. {{subst:orfud}} if a file has a non-free copyright template but isn't used in any articles
    4. {{subst:rfu}} if a file has a non-free copyright template but could be replaced by a free file
    5. {{subst:dfu|reason}} if a file has a non-free copyright template but the rationale isn't sufficient or is disputed
    6. {{subst:nrd}} if a file has no non-free use rationale
  4. Redundant or duplicate files do not have to be listed here. Please use
    1. {{db-f1|Full name of file excluding the "File:" prefix}} for speedy deletion if the other file is on Wikipedia, not on Commons
    2. {{now commons|File:NEW FILENAME}} if the file now exists on Commons, or {{now commons}} for files with the same name on Commons. (Don't nominate protected images, they are usually locally uploaded and protected since they are used in an interface message or in a highly used template, thus they are high-risk.)
  5. For blatant copyright infringements, use speedy deletion by tagging the file {{db-f9}}
  6. If a file is listed as public domain or under a free license, but lacks verification of this (either by an OTRS ticket number or a notice on the source website), tag it as {{subst:npd}}.
  7. Files that are hosted on Wikimedia Commons cannot be deleted via this process. Please use the Commons deletion page instead.
  8. Description pages with no local file, even though they are in the file namespace, should not be listed here.
    1. Redirects should be treated as in any other namespace: if no speedy deletion criteria apply, they should be listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion.
    2. Local description pages with no associated file are speedy-deletable under criterion G8; use {{db-imagepage}}.
    3. Local description pages for files hosted on Commons are usually speedy-deletable under criterion F2 if there is no content relevant to Wikipedia; use {{db-fpcfail}}.
    4. Any other local description pages for files hosted on Commons should be listed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion.
  9. If a file is appropriately licensed and could be usable elsewhere, consider copying it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of listing it for deletion. Once copied to the Commons, it is eligible for speedy deletion per criterion 8 for files.
  10. If you are the uploader of the image, tag it with {{db-author}}.

Instructions for listing files for discussion

To list a file:

1
Edit the file page.

Add {{ffd|log=2018 November 17}} to the file page.

2
Create its FfD subsection.

Follow this edit link and list the file using {{subst:ffd2|File_name.ext|uploader= |reason= }} ~~~~

Leave the subject heading blank.

If the file has been replaced by another file, name the file that replaced it in your reason for deletion. Refer below for a list of other common reasons.

For listing additional files with the same reason, edit the first file section and use {{subst:ffd2a|File_name.ext |Uploader= }} for each additional file. Also, add {{ffd|log=2018 November 17}} to the top of the file page of each file other than the first one nominated.

3
Give due notice.

Inform the uploader by adding a message to their talk page using {{subst:fdw|File_name.ext}}

  • Remember to replace "File_name.ext" with the name of the image or media
  • For multiple images by the same user, use {{subst:fdw-multi|First_file.ext |Second_file.ext |Third_file.ext}} ~~~~ (can handle up to 26)

If the image is in use, also consider adding {{ffdc|File_name.ext|log=2018 November 17}} to the caption(s), or adding a notice to the article talk pages. Consider also notifying relevant WikiProjects of the discussion.

State the reasons why the file should be deleted, removed, or altered. Also, state what specific action should be taken, preferably in bold text; this allows discussion participants and closers to better understand the purpose of the nomination. Some examples of nomination statements include:

  • Delete. Orphaned with no foreseeable encyclopedic usage.
  • Delete. Replaced by File:FILE2.
  • Free (public domain) file may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States. This photograph was actually first published in 1920, not 1926.
  • Remove from ARTICLE1 and ARTICLE2. The file only meets WP:NFCC#8 with its use in ARTICLE3.
  • Non-free file may actually be free. This logo does not seem to meet the threshold of originality to be eligible for copyright in the United States and should actually be tagged free using {{PD-logo}}.


Some common reasons for deletion or removal from pages are:

  • Obsolete - The file has been replaced by a better version. Indicate the new file name
  • Orphan - The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia. (If the file is only available under "fair use", please use {{subst:orfud}} instead). Please consider moving "good" free licensed files to Commons rather than outright deleting them, other projects may find a use for them even if we have none; you can also apply {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}.
  • Unencyclopedic - The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in this encyclopedia (or for any Wikimedia project). Images used on userpages should generally not be nominated on this basis alone unless the user is violating the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not policy by using Wikipedia to host excessive amounts unencyclopedic material (most commonly private photos).
  • Low quality - The image is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns.
  • Copyright violation - The file might be used in violation of copyright.
  • Possibly unfree file - The file marked as free may actually be non-free. If the file is determined to be non-free, then it will be subject to the non-free content criteria in order to remain on Wikipedia.
  • Non-free file issues - The non-free file may not meet all requirements outlined in the non-free file use policy, or may not be necessary to retain on Wikipedia or specific articles due to either free alternatives or better non-free alternative(s) existing.
  • File marked as non-free may actually be free - The file is marked non-free, but may actually be free content. (Example: A logo may not eligible for copyright alone because it is not original enough, and thus the logo is considered to be in the public domain.)

These are not the only "valid" reasons to discuss a file. Any properly explained reason can be used. The above list comprises the most common and uncontroversial ones.

If you remove a file from an article, list the article from which you removed it so there can be community review of whether the file should be deleted. This is necessary because file pages do not remember the articles on which the file were previously used.

Administrator instructions

Instructions for discussion participation

In responding to the deletion nomination, consider adding your post in the format
* '''View''' - Reasoning ... -- ~~~~
where "Delete", "Keep", "Comment", or something else may replace "View". In posting their reasoning, many editors use abbreviations and cite to the following:

Remember that polling is not a substitute for discussion. Wikipedia's primary method of determining consensus is through editing and discussion, not voting. Although editors occasionally use straw polls in an attempt to test for consensus, polls or surveys sometimes impede rather than assist discussion. They should be used with caution, and are no more binding than any other consensus decision.

Also remember that if you believe that an image is potentially useful for other projects and should be moved to Wikimedia Commons, in lieu of responding '''Move to Commons''', you can move it there yourself. See Wikipedia:Moving files to the Commons for instructions.

Instructions for closing discussions

Nominations should be processed for closing after being listed for 7 days following the steps here.

Old discussions

The following discussions are more than 7 days old and are pending processing by an administrator:

For older nominations, see the archives.

Discussions approaching conclusion

Recent nominations

November 11

File:ITV logo 2013.svg

File:ITV logo 2013.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AxG (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Remove from Television in the United Kingdom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) per WP:NFCC#8. There is no sourced critical commentary about the logo itself. Readers are able to understand the article subject without seeing the logo of a specific company/network. — JJMC89(T·C) 20:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Remove from Television in the United Kingdom per nominator. This is a general history type article which often includes some summarized information from various other articles about the subject per WP:SS, but which typically doesn't go it to the amount of detail to provide the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 to justify the use of non-free logos. This logo can be seen in the stand-alone article about the channel which is more than sufficient per WP:NFCC#3 and item 6 of WP:NFC#UUI; so, there's really no justifiable reason for using it in this article. Moreover, any sourced critical commentary about the logo itself would also likely not be appropriate for the genre-like "Television in the United Kingdom" article, so I cannot see any realy way to even add content to the article to justify non-free use.
    Now, there might a possiblity that this is simple enough to be public domain for local use on English Wikipedia. It seems too complex to be {{PD-logo}} per c:COM:TOO#United Kingdom, but it might be PD in the United States per c:COM:TOO#United States. If the consensus is to convert the file to "PD-ineligible=USonly", it would no longer be subject to WP:NFCCP and could be used basically the same way as a PD file from Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Removed - No point explaining why I believe it meets NFCC #8 because at the end of the day whatever I say is going to count for nothing so removed. –Davey2010Talk 19:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

File:UKTV logo.png

File:UKTV logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AxG (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Remove from Television in the United Kingdom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) per WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFCC#10c. There is no sourced critical commentary about the logo itself. Readers are able to understand the article subject without seeing the logo of a specific company/network. — JJMC89(T·C) 20:23, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Remove from Television in the United Kingdom per nominator and also per WP:NFCC#10c. This is a general history type article which often includes some summarized information from various other articles about the subject per WP:SS, but which typically doesn't go it to the amount of detail to provide the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 to justify the use of non-free logos. This logo can be seen in the stand-alone article about the channel which is more than sufficient per WP:NFCC#3 and item 6 of WP:NFC#UUI; so, there's really no justifiable reason for using it in this article. There is also no seperate specific non-free use rationale provided for the use in "Televison in the United Kingdom"; so, the file can be removed per WP:NFCCE. Simply providing the missing rationale seems pointless per WP:JUSTONE because any sourced critical commentary about the logo itself would also likely not be appropriate for a genre/history type of article "Television in the United Kingdom" article, so I cannot see any realy way to even add content to the article to justify non-free use.
    Now, there might a possiblity that this is simple enough to be public domain for local use on English Wikipedia. It seems too complex to be {{PD-logo}} per c:COM:TOO#United Kingdom, but it might be PD in the United States per c:COM:TOO#United States. If the consensus is to convert the file to "PD-ineligible-USonly", it would no longer be subject to WP:NFCCP and could be used basically the same way as a PD file from Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Removed - No point explaining why I believe it meets NFCC #8 because at the end of the day whatever I say is going to count for nothing so removed. –Davey2010Talk 19:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

November 12

File:Power Paandi Front.jpg

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F1 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 02:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Power Paandi Front.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Moorlord15 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Evidently not a poster, but an album cover. The film's soundtrack does not have an article, hence this picture violates WP:NFCC by being used in a film's article. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:31, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Replaced The Image with a newer Poster feel free to revert or delete the file Moorlord15 (talk) 10:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Now I've overwritten the image in a way that will allow its deletion per F1. Moorlord15, we should use posters having the film's final release date and final title (not old titles). In this case, Power Paandi was retitled Pa Paandi. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:Waterloo-Mathematics.svg

File:Waterloo-Mathematics.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kyuko (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Too complex for PD-textlogo Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

November 13

File:EAST Reactor Photo.jpg

File:EAST Reactor Photo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Alextrevelian 006 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Free image: File:EAST Tokamak vacuum vessel 2015.jpg Shizhao (talk) 07:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Uploads by Mull0329

Mull0329 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
File:Umdlib2.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:Swensonlobby.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:Umdlib.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:Maloskystadium.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:Kirbyplaza-night.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:LendleyBlack wiki2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
File:LendleyBlack wiki1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

Conflicting claims of authorship - this user credits the University of Minnesota-Duluth but also uses the {{self}} template. --B (talk) 02:31, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

I would guess that Mull0329 (talk · contribs) may have been an employee of the University of Minnesota Duluth, which may be why they used the {{self}} template and then also cited the source as being the institution. What is done in that instance? Randomeditor1000 (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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  • Keep. The information is not conflicting per se, as Randomeditor1000 points out. I checked a few and couldn't find a previous publication online. Going by that, they are likely not copyvios. Please re-nominate if you can find these published somewhere prior to us. Also, should be moved to Commons. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 09:28, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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  • Delete. WP:OTRS is required to verify that the uploader is an employee of the University of Minnesota Duluth and has the authority to upload these photos under free licenses. File:Umdlib2.png exists here in a higher resolution (1800×1187), which doesn't fair well against Finnusertop's assertion that these are previously unpublished. xplicit 05:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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    • @Finnusertop: Even if an image isn't previously published, if the copyright is owned by anyone other than the uploader themselves, we need a statement of permission from that copyright holder. Example, my brother is an amateur photographer and has some amazing photographs. If I were to upload something from him, and credit him, even though he has never published the photo anywhere, we still need a statement of permission. Even if this person is an employee of the school, you normally have to be a high-level officer in order to have the authority to issue licenses, so again, if this person has that authority, they would need to verify it via OTRS. --B (talk) 12:31, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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November 14

File:Duncan Montgomery Gray Sr.jpg

File:Duncan Montgomery Gray Sr.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NickGeorge1993 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Querying use of PD-US over a Not renewed as the image dates to 1944. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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File:Hotel-Dunapartft.jpg

File:Hotel-Dunapartft.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamas Szabo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

"Szabó Ervin Könyvtár permits non commercial use" but licensed as CC-BY-SA,Image may be PD by date, but needs clarification. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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File:Thoonga nagaram movie latest posters.jpg

File:Thoonga nagaram movie latest posters.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Villain18 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Violates WP:NFCC#8 as it is a soundtrack image being used in a film article. Also, it is watermarked. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Replace with a non-watermarked image. Could use the cover image from this Spotify Album which is from the same album but just slightly different image (but it's still for the same album), also it doesn't have a watermark. --Atomicdragon136 (talk) 01:53, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Trout Flies designed by Richard Walker.JPG

File:Trout Flies designed by Richard Walker.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Adrian freer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

I think these might qualify as works of art Ronhjones  (Talk) 17:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

November 15

File:I Will Survive 1993.jpg

File:I Will Survive 1993.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wherelovelives (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This image is of the 1993 re-release of "I Will Survive". It fails to comply both WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8; one of other front covers and sleeves of original release should be sufficient enough for readers' understanding of the song. George Ho (talk) 20:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

The record cover consists only of letters. It may not meet the threshold of originality to qualify for copyright protection. See Template:PD-simple. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 13:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Look closer, Malik. The background has possibly copyrightable symbols and design pattern(s), seen in the 1993 re-releases. George Ho (talk) 19:09, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
The background design appears to consist of the letter G (upright and inverted). I don't hold myself out to be a copyright expert, but I don't know if there's sufficient original content to consider this record cover eligible for copyright protection, although I also understand taking a cautious approach. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 20:12, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Having said that, common sense certainly supports the concept behind NFCC 8. Quite apart from the copyright issue, I think it's questionable whether including such a generic record cover in the article adds anything that enhances readers' understanding of the subject, but that's a matter to discuss on the article's talk page. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 20:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
The threshold of originality in the UK is very low. Kee Scott Associates made the sleeve and is a British company. Also, Polydor Records is British. It is potentially copyrighted in the UK, but I guess I'm unsure about it being so in the US. George Ho (talk) 20:24, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you that link. I find the caption to the image of the book cover here quite relevant: a book cover consisting merely of stylized text is in the public domain in the US but likely wouldn't be in the UK. As I wrote, I'm not a copyright expert; I don't know whether US copyright law applies because Wikipedia's servers are in the US or whether UK copyright law applies because the record was issued in the UK. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:Meet-Mujtaba-1-213x300.jpg

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT 16:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Meet-Mujtaba-1-213x300.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Usman2k4u (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is copyright protected. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

File:SnakeNutCan.JPG

File:SnakeNutCan.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Simul (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

"Popular nonbranded product" does not equal public domain. Photo was also lifted from a party costume website. Lord Belbury (talk) 18:17, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Cristhian Rivera.jpg

File:Cristhian Rivera.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 11S117 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Credited to Des Moines Register, although likely the work of the local sheriff who carried out the arrest. Not federal government work. GMGtalk 20:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Mark-Manson-Headshot-2016.jpg

File:Mark-Manson-Headshot-2016.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Aknt (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete: there is no verifiable permission on the source website. This page https://markmanson.net/terms-and-conditions states a commercial use is not allowed and there is a copyright notices on their pages. ww2censor (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

November 16

File:Theses on the Socialist Rural Question in Our Country.png

File:Theses on the Socialist Rural Question in Our Country.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Finnusertop (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Marked do not move to Commons, but a deletion discussion already occurred there and resulted in keep. Magog the Ogre (tc) 03:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Open Science Grid(Small Logo).gif

File:Open Science Grid(Small Logo).gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AbhishekSinghRana (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Technically unsourced, but F4 isn't necessarily appropriate for an image uploaded under a GFDL style license in good faith. Media is not used. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Also File:Open Science Grid Consortium(Logo).jpgShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:50, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Picture of protesters using a sleeping dragon, 2007-03-08, Carnegie Mellon University.jpg

File:Picture of protesters using a sleeping dragon, 2007-03-08, Carnegie Mellon University.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jeff G. (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Useful photo, but the article is about the general activist tactic rather than this single specific performance of it in 2007. As such this copyrighted press photo doesn't meet "no free equivalent" - another photo could be taken or may already exist. (File:Mother and Son Enjoy a Lock On Together (14038965171).jpg may suffice?) Lord Belbury (talk) 15:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

File:Ercildoune Homestead.jpeg

File:Ercildoune Homestead.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bacondrum (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

If this is free, then it needs links to the original web image and the license. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ronhjones: Hi, this is the first time I've uploaded an image file. The file is free, how do I attach links to the original web image and the license? Cheers Bacondrum (talk) 23:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@Bacondrum: I've put in an Information template. Please change the...
"source = http://www.slv.vic.gov.au" to show the full url of the original AND
"permission =" - to add the url where the permission statement may be found.
Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:59, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones:Done, cheers. Bacondrum (talk) 00:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

───────Now that's rather confusing...

This page says
  1. Copyright status - This work is in copyright AND
  2. Terms of use - Use of this work allowed provided the creator and SLV acknowledged. No known copyright restrictions apply.

Which appear to rather contradict each other. The other link from the image page here, says what we normally expect "The duration of copyright in published materials is generally 70 years from the death of the creator". But I cannot find any Creative Commons statement, so my view is that it will have to go. Let's see what others think. Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:27, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

November 17

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