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April 24

Integrating a sandbox with existing Wikipedia content

I have written an article in my personal sandbox that I want to integrate with existing wikipedia articles, but none of those articles cover the overall development of the body of work. Each article in the overall space covers their specific piece of work but do not fit it into the broader set of activities. As a metaphor, each article covers the development of some house subsystem (e.g. electrical, plumbing, heating, etc) but there is no article about how the house itself was assembled, and subsystems created. How do I introduce the overall entry into the wikipedia content and then tie specific articles into it.

In addition, many of the articles to be stitched into the larger fabric are somewhat out of date, and perhaps not actively maintained. Are their effective ways to prod the editors of those pages to maintain their content. (There were at least five main pages that were out of date in referencing various initiatives within the larger fabric.) Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjklingenstein (talkcontribs) 03:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kjklingenstein: If you think an article needs improvement, please fix it, or post suggestions on the article's talk page. Regarding the draft you have created at User:Kjklingenstein/sandbox , it appears it may be Original Research, which is not allowed. If I am mistaken, then please read WP:YFA for guidance and tips on creating an article. RudolfRed (talk) 03:10, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kjklingenstein:. Fixing the ping. RudolfRed (talk) 03:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Kjklingenstein: one problem with the content of your sandbox is all the unexplained abbreviations: R&E, PKI, IETF, SAML, LDAP, OASIS, WG, etc. Maproom (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Error on the 'Succession to the English Throne' page.

Reads 'Charlotte & her new-born brother, as yet unnamed' should read '& their new brother ...........

Graham Payne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham Payne (talkcontribs) 03:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Done. Pedant point: It's the British throne. Rojomoke (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I've edited my submission which was refused. How long to wait before I receive an answer on the edit?

I've edited my submission which was refused. How long to wait before I receive an answer on the edit?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonkieding (talkcontribs) 06:36 am, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Leonkieding, please sign your posts to discussion pages so we know who to reply to, and link to the page you are referring to. If this is about Draft:Binaural Brainwave Art, it was last declined at Articles for creation in January. If you believe you have made substantial improvements to meet the concerns expressed then, you should re-submit the draft by editing the page to insert the code {{subst:submit}} and publishing changes. It will help reviewers if you can expand the references to display author, title, date and where published. Guidance on doing this is already on your talk page: Noyster (talk), 10:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
You had lost the "Resubmit" button because you had deleted the feedback (which was labelled with "Do not remove this line!"). I have reinstated the feedback, so you've got the resubmit button back. Before you resubmit you need to remove the misplaced external links from the text of the draft. You may wish to turn some of those links to properly formatted references. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles that need editing

Is there a way of finding articles that need extra citations/extra content? When you first join it gives you 10 to edit, but I can't find how to do it again. Sir7 16 (talk) 10:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Here is a list of over 300,000 articles that someone said needs references, Category:All articles with unsourced statements. ~ GB fan 10:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

removal of refs back to wikipedia

Is there anything special that should be done on removing references back to wikipedia? For example Newark, New Jersey contains <ref></ref>. using the deadlink template instead doesn't seem correct...Naraht (talk)

I've removed that ref to Wikipedia. I would have added a wikilink to the Nat Turner article – but there's already one there. Maproom (talk) 13:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, I'll see in the future if it makes sense to link. There are over 300 in mainspace. (I did a search for insource:ref>https://en.wikipedia ) no guarantee that that is close to all of them.Naraht (talk) 18:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible entry by person paid to create it on behalf of another

I would appreciate your review of the issue I've just raised in my addition to the talk page at Do I have a valid point here? Isn't there a rule against someone creating an entry if that person is being paid to do so on behalf of another? By the way, I happen to love Tana French's writing and have read most of her books, so I have no no vendetta or axe to grind. But I would hate to see Wikipedia tainted by commercialism. Thanks, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, BuzzWeiser196. Thanks for helping us improve Wikipedia. There are several issues here:
  • information does not belong in Wikipedia unless it has been reliably published somewhere. Period. If you find unsourced information in an article, you may remove it. If you think it might be right, then it would be better to find a citation yourself, or mark it with {{citation needed}} if you haven't the time or inclination to do so. But if you think it is wrong or unverifiable, be BOLD and remove it. (If you remove it, and it turns out that there is a source that is relatively easy to find, another editor might be annoyed with you, but they can always restore it with a citation).
  • for certain purposes, information can come from non-independent sources (eg the subject's own website)- see WP:PRIMARY. But I would agree that announcements of future publications or releases are not usually appropriate unless they have already been the subject of independently-published notice. (See WP:CRYSTALBALL).
  • The last two entries in the book list were inserted by Panderson458 (who I have just pinged). Most of that user's recent edits appear to be adding 2018 publications to articles about authors, so I would concur with you that the are probably here for promotional reasons, and very likely paid to do so. Panderson458, if I am wrong about that I apologise; but in any case please stop inserting the names of books without citations. And if you are in any way involved with the authors or their publishers or agents, please review the advice for editors with a conflict of interest (and particularly the constraints on paid editing if that is relevant), and be aware that promotion of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 13:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, ColinFine. BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Searching for terms used by vandals

Hello! I've recently noticed some repetitive and just plain nasty cases of vandalism on the Simple English wiki committed by IP addresses registered to Italian ISPs (such as this one), which I would like to track down. Is there a way to use the Recent Changes page to show, for example, all anonymous IP edits which involved replacing all content on a page in the Wikipedia namespace with a particular word, such as the F-word? I already know how to filter results to certain namespaces and to anonymous editors, but if I can further search for particular terms, such as those used in edit summaries, it could aid in tracking cases of LTA. Thanks and regards, ««« SOME GADGET GEEK »»» (talk) 14:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

How about Lupin's Anti-vandal tool? It's quite old, but it still works. It has a list of bad words that it detects in recent changes (which you can prudently edit, if there's anything you wish to add). I don't know if it supports anything other than en.wikipedia, or has as specific of tools as you want, though. LittlePuppers (talk) 16:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Related to deletion of a page - Bahujan Azad Party

I have placed the following deletion tag 'subst:afd' on the Wikipedia page Bahujan Azad Party. I would like to ask the following questions to clarify certain points regarding this:
1. This page has been created by a user User:SoganSinghBakra who does not have a userpage. Do I have to create their userpage to inform the user of the same?
2. Am I following correct procedure? Apart from placing the tag and stating my reason on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahujan Azad Party do I have to do anything else?
3. I understand that only a admin can delete a page. But i just want to clarify about who can create the discussion page also.
DiplomatTesterMan 14:56, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so i was reading the third step in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, "Open the articles for deletion log page for editing", but then by that time User:cyberbot I had already done that. So that is one thing I missed out. DiplomatTesterMan 15:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@DiplomatTesterMan: Regarding question 1: You leave the notification on User talk:SoganSinghBakra, not on the user page. Deor (talk) 15:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Deor: I have added the message on the talk page User talk:SoganSinghBakra. This was a silly overlook on my part, I was looking for his the userpage and not his the talkpage. Thanks for the help. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
DiplomatTesterMan, also, as the nominator, you shouldn't !vote, it's assumed that you want deletion. If you go to your Preferences, then Gadgets and tick Twinkle, it will give you a menu to automate this and many other simple tasks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Ok, that was a mistake with the formatting on my part, I wanted to give the reason as to why i was nominating it for deletiion like I saw with other AFDs, but I put the "Delete:" part which I shouldn't have which should be reserved only when voting. Thanks. Will be sure not to overlook that for other nominations in the future if required.
Will check Twinkle out. Thanks for the help.DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

{{lang-ber|.........}} should display BERBER and not BERBER LANGUAGES

Hello boys and girls,

Somebody has changed what the editing code {{lang-ber|.......}} displays on Wikipedia pages. They changed it from displaying Berber (singular) to displaying Berber languages (plural). This bad change occurred a couple of months ago.

Before this rediculous change, the code {{lang-ber|.......}} has always displayed Berber as it should, just like the code {{lang-en|........}} always displays English instead of the rediculous English languages (as in the dialects of UK, US, AUS, NZ, CAN...).

I assume this person who changed the display of the code {{lang-ber|.......}} is arguing that there are many Berber languages/dialects. But this is the case in all languages of the world with no exception. Every language has sub-languages and dialects and accents. The Berber language (local name: Tamazight or Amazigh) is specified as ONE SINGLE SINGULAR language in the two official and current constitutions of the countries of Morocco and Algeria.

Here are the English translations of the constitutions of Morocco and Algeria:


(Page: 4. Article 5).


(Page: 4. Article 4).

The Berber language is considered as one single language by its own native speakers.

If you claim that there are many Berber languages then you should accept that there are many English languages (US, UK, AUS, Indian...etc) and many Arabic languages and many Chinese languages and you should display them as such on Wikipedia.

This language code {{lang-ber|.......}} must be restored to its old and original Wikipedian expression/display which is simply: Berber.


--Tussna (talk) 15:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The change was apparently to comply with ISO 639-2, see ISO 639-2#Collections of languages. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

How to cite a PDF?

Pretty straightforward. I tried citing a PDF like a regular website but it failed. Please help. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 17:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

UNSC Luke 1021 , it's just the same eg <ref name= RSPBintro> {{cite web | url = | title = RSPB Ham Wall National Nature Reserve | publisher = RSPB | access-date = 4 April 2018 }} </ref> gives "RSPB Ham Wall National Nature Reserve" (PDF). RSPB. Retrieved 4 April 2018.  Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Oh well, I must have been making a mistake. Thank you. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 18:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@UNSC Luke 1021: Because of how some websites embed PDF's, the VE citoid module cannot always extract sufficient metadata to complete the citation. In this case, you can use the "manual" reference generator and use cite web/book/journal as appropriate. Mdann52 (talk) 18:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Copied template

Might someone be kind enough to help me with Template:Copied? For some reason I'm having difficulty getting it to render properly.

The source page was 2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests and revision ID 837994923; part of it was copied to create 2018 Nicaraguan protests at 15:27, 24 April 2018, revision ID 838040342. I'm trying to record this properly on the talk pages, but the latter diff is not linking properly. I can get Template:Split_article to work but there's a content discussion ongoing on whether the new page will really be a split or instead subpage to elaborate on the original page, so I'd prefer just to use the more generic copy template if possible.

Thanks for your assistance, I'm sorry if I'm overlooking something obvious. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The diff parameter is a url and not just a revision id:
{{Copied|from=2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests|from_oldid=837994923|to=2018 Nicaraguan protests|diff=}}.
PrimeHunter (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
A million thanks PrimeHunter; I had tried the URL, haven’t the faintest idea how I managed to screw it up. Thanks for sorting me out! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Issue with important life-saving link


I am very active in an alcohol recovery community on Reddit, and we often link your article on kindling to those who are new to sobriety. The problem is that the link itself is really messed up and it reroutes to the disambiguation or elsewhere. This is a huge problem because that link can make the difference between someone deciding to go to the hospital for lifesaving treatment or deciding not to. A URL issue in that moment could be disastrous. I know this seems small but it really isn't.

It seems as though the problem occurs with the last parenthesis, before the hashtag. It's like the URL disappears with that parenthesis when we post the link. I know that this might be Reddit-specific, but if you can help you could literally save a life.

The link works fine for me, and in any case you shouldn't rely on Wikipedia links not change or for Wikipedia to be always available. RudolfRed (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
What link specifically is not working for you? I clicked the link in your post and it works. I also created Kindling (alcohol) as another link to reach the section linked. The link to Kindling needs to be a disambiguation page because there are different articles related to "kindling".--Frmorrison (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
You failed to link a Reddit page with the problem so we cannot see what you do wrong. I guess you write a raw url like
and rely on Reddit software to turn the text into a link. Many programs will omit an ending parenthesis from a url when turning it into a link. If your software links
without ) then that page says "Did you mean: Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal)?" at the top so it's easy to get to the right page. I don't know your software but it probably works if you encode ) as %29:
PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I've created a redirect from Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal. Maybe that helps? Maproom (talk) 06:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

April 25

Filmography Tables for Actors

Help! :)

Ok, not a big deal and I am trying to nip something in the bud.

While on RC patrol, I ran across two articles of actors where an IP editor is: -removing filmography tables -misquoting policies to justify their position -making up policies -insisting that if the tables are kept they be be as bare as possible (no info about awards etc). -exhibiting WP:OWN attitudes and behaviors

What I am looking for: Some other users with experience to look at these pages, especially someone who has lots of experience in film and acting pages, especially with tables Ways to find such editors... I have looked on Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers and don't see a place I can post.

Articles in question: Desmond Tan and Zen Chong

Basically I am concerned about a lot of work being lost through made up standards for film and actor tables. Thanks (ps if there is a better place to post this, please let me knowSethie (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Tables are acceptable in filmographies. (I personally don't like them, but only because they're extra work.) AFAIK, there is no policy or guideline that prohibits them, and I've been active in editing film-related articles for at least a decade. A couple of observations though. First, TV series don't belong in a filmography. They should go in a separate section. Second, we generally don't include billing positions in the notes. Third, I don't quite know what "pairs with" means exactly, and if it's what I suspect, it's not particularly noteworthy. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! (you are welcome to weigh in at either page btw) Sethie (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
It seems this will affect a number of articles and some form of consensus would be required. Perhaps a place to raise this would be at WT:FILM? Eagleash (talk) 03:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thats my concern too, appreciate the lead will post on WP:FILM. Sethie (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Login Attempts

Haven't found information about this anywhere else, so figured I'd ask here. I'm not too active anymore, but for the past year (perhaps longer, since LoginNotify was launched) someone has been really, really determined to get into my account and I'm not quite sure why. I've gotten perhaps 50 failed login emails at this point, and they're still going at it from a host of different IP addresses. Not quite sure what my question is, just looking for insight or perhaps information on what can be done (if anything). Shaun 05:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Shaun: Your username is a very common name, so it is very likely to be in the list of some bot that just tries things. If your username is sufficiently strong (say over 12 characters long or something) and not used for any other website, then their really is nothing to worry about, and in your case i would then suggest to simply turn off the notification for such attempts in your preferences. But make sure your your password is secure enough, because the attempts are not likely to stop. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 06:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Shaun: I was worried about this too so I created a committed identity so that if someone does get into my account I can prove my true identity. Basically, you go to a website like this and enter a string of characters that you won't forget and nobody would guess (something that you will both never forget and will never need to change). If your account gets compromised and you're completely locked out, and people are unsure if you are really you, you just send that private string to ArbCom or whomever and they'll be able to verify that you're the legit person by just running that private string through the website and seeing that the output hash matches what's on your userpage. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Wow sorry I forgot. You use this template, Template:Committed identity, and put your hash on your user page (you can see mine on my userpage for example). You don't just keep the hash on a piece of paper at home. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Shaun and HickoryOughtShirt?4: Actually the nobody would guess part of the committed identity is not needed. The hash (i.e. the string of gibberish characters you get as output) is seemingly random, but you do not need it to be "hard to guess" (unless you are extremely concerned about privacy, e.g. if your Wikipedia contributions would expose you to arrest by the local authorities); for the committed identity purpose, you want it "hard to fake", i.e. it should be hard to produce a collision attack (another string that has the same hash but indicates another person).
For instance, I can give some info about my committed identity string: it is of the form "<first name> <last name> (<email address>) is Tigraan", with the email address the standard [email protected] and the domain contains only letters and at most 15 of them. This information makes it easier for you to guess what the string is, but it makes it harder to find a collision while respecting the given format (while controlling the given email and having ID for the name you give). TigraanClick here to contact me 14:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
  • One comment, you do want to write down somewhere the exact string that you hash. Just knowing it's your name and email and such isn't enough. A difference as small as an extra comma, etc, is enough to make the resulting hash completely different. CrowCaw 15:48, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Venda article: can't see how to remove nonsense text

The history section of Venda begins "Today, I went to the beach front with my kids. caaaakafbfdcabcf" but when I try to remove that, it doesn't appear in the edit window. What's going on? --A bit iffy (talk) 09:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@A bit iffy: It was vandalism to the 'SouthAfrica state' template used in the article. Corrected with this edit. Eagleash (talk) 09:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks.--A bit iffy (talk) 10:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Publish a page

I have drafted a page, how do I go about publishing it on wikipedia? Any help, advise and guidance will me much appreciated.— Preceding unsigned comment added by AR40422 (talkcontribs) 13:16, 25 April 2018 13:16 (UTC)

@AR40422: Hello, This presumably relates to Draft:Sultan Bahadar Aziz. It will need a little bit of work before it is ready for mainspace. When you consider it is appropriate you can place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page, which will submit it for review. In the meantime I will leave some helpful links at your talk page and you should also read WP:YFA and WP:REFB which is a basic guide to adding references. Please remove the bluelinks from headings. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:48, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: many thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by AR40422 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 25 April 2018 13:51 (UTC)

Speed of Wikipedia coverage

How fast does Wikipedia write about events? I'm asking here for wording in page wp:About, which has claimed "within minutes" but I prefer phrase, "within hours" to wait on published sources to post details after/during a major event. Otherwise a claim of "minutes" seems to strongly imply first-person observations written about an event. Should this speed issue be an RfC topic and at wt:About? -Wikid77 (talk) 14:27, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually Wikid77, "within minutes" is pretty accurate. Pretty much as soon as news hits someone creates an article, and often two or three that need to be merged with one another once they find each other. Whether that's a violation of WP:NOTNEWS has been the subject of some debate. GMGtalk 14:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Hello Wikid77. You may want to read the more detailed advice at WP:BREAKING and the links from there. Basically, there is no limit to how fast articles about current events should be written, and in practice worldwide-news events usually get written about very quickly (in the internet area, news reports can arrive extremely fast after the event), but that should not be done at the detriment of quality.
As for changing the wording of a particular page, before launching a full-scale RfC, why not post on the talk page (WT:About) first? RfCs are usually the last-resort option when multiple editors fail to find a consensus, so do not resort to them before you have even tested the waters. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks folks for the advice. -Wikid77 (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Creating an article by translation?

May I translate an entry from another language into English to create a page?

Short answer: if that "entry" is from another Wikipedia, yes. If it is from elsewhere on the internet, probably not.
See Wikipedia:Translation for the long answer. In particular pay attention to licensing requirements (usually just saying "translated from the article at Foo at date X" is ok, though you can do better) and do not use raw machine translation (proofread it before posting). TigraanClick here to contact me 14:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Take a look

Can someone take a look at Ola Cabs? A lot of IP edits seems to have added a lot of unwanted content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:00, 25 April 2018‎ (UTC)

It looks like User:GreenMeansGo cleaned it up.💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 11:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I got busy and didn't reply here. I removed the worst of it, not that the article couldn't still use some TLC. GMGtalk 11:39, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Mistake about May Day

Why this map shows that Labor Day in Belgium is not on May 1st? I can garantee you that "la fete du travail" is a national holiday in Belgium. Ericdec85 (talk) 16:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: and also in Luxembourg, Slovakia and Poland. This map is just wrong. Should check again every single country. 16:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)16:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)~~

Hello, Ericdec85. That file File:International_Observance_of_Labour_Day.png is in Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia, so you should take up the matter there, either on its talk page, or that of the Commons user Azurescapegoat, who created it. --ColinFine (talk) 22:42, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Random featured article

Hi, I know there is a "Random article" feature, but is there any way to bring up a random featured ("gold star") article? (I know that I can go to and click somewhere at random myself.)

Okay, so you know the 2 boxes at the top of the Featured article page? On the right one, there is a link you can click called "Random featured articles" which will put you at a random featured article. Alternativly, you can click this link instead. Happy reading!💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 22:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

👍💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 00:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

April 26

Diana, Princess of Wales

This sentence is at the end of the Early Life section of this page - She resented Raine, whom she called a "bully", and in one occasion "pushed her down the stairs.

To me, the grammar is incorrect i.e. - in on one occasion.

Please repair if you agree. Thanks (talk) 05:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you having problems logging in? Eagleash (talk) 05:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
The page is semiprotected; thus the IP couldn't fix it. Why do you ask about problems logging in? Nyttend (talk) 11:58, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Presumably because of this edit (confirmed by the following one)? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:24, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The Avengers: Infinity War page contains the entire plot (including spoilers) before the release of the movie


We don't censor plot spoilers. If someone does not want to ruin the story for themself they should not read the article. The movie has been released so there's no problem discussing the plot. The issue of whether the plot is too detailed, or is improperly sourced or copied is under discussion at Talk:Avengers:_Infinity_War#Revert_request_to_"short_plot"_version Meters (talk) 06:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


How do I create my profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincent amorosi (talkcontribs) 06:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a social media site with "profiles"; it is an encyclopedia with articles on notable subjects. For guidance on how to create an article, see WP:Your first article. If you are asking about how to create a user page, see WP:user pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

removal of incorrect information


I am hoping to get a line remove from the following page

The line i am wishing to have removed is:

One of Campbell's last acts as the Chief of Army was to end a century of tradition by removing 'death imagery' from patches and badges.

This is not factually correct and the matter that it references is an internal Australian Army matter.

If anything the line can read

As Chief of Army, Angus Campbell issued and internal minute directing personnel to remove 'death symbology' from all items within the Army.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louise Avent (talkcontribs) 06:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The ususal place to discuss this would be on the talk page of the article. I was considering changing the wording as you requested, but I am not able to view the reference without a subscription here in the UK, so I cannot judge whether your sentence more closely matches the account given in the newspaper. Perhaps you can find another reference that is not behind a paywall? Dbfirs 09:32, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

How to upload/publish an image that I improved into the specific wiki file?

I have improved an image by adding labels to indicate the orientation of the image. I am new and I don't know how to upload the image to the specific wiki file as an improvement. LimbMagC (talk) 08:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Cell membrane
  • @LimbMagC: Let me first start by saying you intentions are appreciated. The way images work here is that you first upload them to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons, and then you include them in articles. You managed the first step but not the second.
I would strongly encourage you to convert your image to .svg (as the original one), per Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload (even though it is not mandatory). This should be a simple "save as..." option in Gimp.
Afterwards, head over to Wikimedia Commons where the image is hosted, click the "upload a new version of this file" link (which in our case will be this link), and upload through. Make sure to notice your changes in the "file changes" box, but keep the same name so that image inclusions in articles are replaced.
Alternatively, you could replace images inclusions in articles; for instance, Endomembrane system contains the wikicode [[Image:Cell membrane detailed diagram 4.svg|thumb|350px|(some description)]] which you could replace by [[Image:Cell membrane detailed diagram 4 wiki Outer Inner CM.xcf|thumb|350px|(some description)]]
Do come back if you meet other difficulties in the process. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

case of Holocaust denial on Wikipedia

On Talk:Typhus#Typhus in concentration camps an IP editor writes: In all honesty it should be mentioned that the Germans invested tremendous efforts into hygienic measures like showers, Zyklon-B delousing gas chambers and others. Please remove this obvious case of Holocaust denial (which is illegal in several jurisdictions) from the page and its history. Thanks. Jahoe (talk) 11:06, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jahoe: I removed it because it's nonsense troll garbage, per WP: DENY. I'm not sure if Wikipedia has any rules against holocaust denial, but it should have been removed anyways.💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 11:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick action. Jahoe (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
After that had been solved, I searched for wikipedia rules on holocaust denial, but didn't find anything. Does anyone have a clue? Nothing urgent really, just interested. Thanks. Jahoe (talk) 12:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
There is no specific rule concerning holocaust denial - it inherently fails WP:NPOV and WP:FRINGE, and usually falls under WP:RS as well, and is dealt with via those mechanisms. In practice, it's just revert-on-sight and block the trolls. There are few quicker ways to lose all credibility on Wikipedia than to advocate for holocaust denial. Acroterion (talk) 12:15, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah yes, good point. And thanks for the policy links, I'll study them. :) Jahoe (talk) 12:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Doesn't look like denial to me, more like antisemitic trolling (Germans invested tremendous efforts into hygienic measures like (...) Zyklon-B delousing gas chambers = "Nazis killed the Jewish insects/parasites", so it is not denying it happened, it just says it was a good thing). Of course, that should still be deleted. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:23, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it was that too, two sides of the same coin. Actually, the WP:NPOV discussion uses Holocaust denial as an example. Acroterion (talk) 12:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
It's denial to me because it calls Zyklon-B a delousing agent, while it was obviously a chemical weapon. Jahoe (talk) 12:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps I should clarify that, because the context is no longer there. The removed text suggested that the gas chambers and the use of Zyklon-B was an attempt to control typhus in the camps. Jahoe (talk) 12:58, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Poe's law it can be hard to distinguish between parody and extreme views. It sounded more like mean parody to me but I support removal in either case. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the use of Zyklon B as a delousing agent is a thing among holocaust denialists. It was originally an insecticide, and there have been recent attempts to alter WP content to make that a plausible, erm, alternative scenario. Acroterion (talk) 01:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I issued a level 4 warning though I came close to blocking the IP. This sort of thing is often treated as a zero tolerance form of disruption. -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Don't know too much about the warning levels, but I'm glad to learn that my post is taken seriously. Note that the deleted remark is almost 2 years old and it's the IP's only contribution. That suggests to me it's a dynamic IP. A block may have been ineffective anyway.
The whole issue was quite shocking to me initially, but I believe we handled it adequately now. Perhaps we should leave it at this; to help facilitate that I'm adding a resolved-tag.
To all who contributed to this thread: thank you for your support. Jahoe (talk) 16:31, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Just noting that the warning probably won’t reach the intended target since the edit (sigh) was made in 2016 and apparently nobody noticed it until now. Geolocation says it’s a static IP in Pretoria, South Africa, so it’s possible the same person still has it.. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:51, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
The warning will probably not reach anyone, I agree with that. The edit was made in 2016 (yes, sigh) but that doesn't mean it isn't an issue. I may have been the first to raise an alarm, but that doesn't mean that nobody noticed it. Let's not tolerate holocaust denial or discrimination in general. Jahoe (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Have submitted draft for review, now I cannot find it


I submitted a draft article for review about a month and a half ago (maybe less). I have gone to check on the progress and do not know where I can retrieve this? I feared it may have been deleted but cannot find it in my deletion log, either.

Apologies if this is an ignorant questions, but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Bonejac. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobScruggs (talkcontribs) 11:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

@BobScruggs: It looks like it was deleted, because I don't see it in your contributions (Deleted articles don't show up in contributions). Do you remember what the name of the draft was? If you do, I can find out why it was deleted.💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 11:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

It was Draft:Daffy's Gin, deleted for being blatantly promotional (having looked at the deleted content, I would agree with the deleting administrator's assessment). Yunshui  11:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
@Money emoji: You can find deleted pages using the "edit count" link from the foot of the user's contribution record, in this case . Of course if you're not an admin you can't see the page or its history, but you can see the deletion log at Draft:Daffy's Gin. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:33, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: That's cool, I didn't even know that existed. Thanks!💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 12:52, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Promotional requests

The following sub-topics mention product names in headers. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Extended content


I have invented a 20 piece puzzle game, which I am about to market, similar to the 12 piece puzzle set called PENTOMINOE & would like to create a Wikipedia article to help promote its use. What information should I provide to educate & encourage businesses & people to manufacture & use this new set of puzzle pieces? An invention company is preparing a brochure for release soon. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Charles H. Checkley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles H. Checkley (talkcontribs) 14:47, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I would highly recommend you don't do this. Wikipedia is not used to find new customers, and defiantly not used to promote your brand.💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 14:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
You misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. It is an encyclopedia, not an advertising hoarding for you to use for promotion. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)



Don't, read what we said above.💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 15:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

In fact, even in talk-pages, naming a product as promotion is likely to get those topics hidden as sub-topics under thread "Promotional requests" as a collapsed page thread. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Account Issue

Please forward to correct department as I did not see Help for accounts.

I attempted to create a new account and got the error "there is no email associated with that username" -- dsschuh I also attempted to log in with both emails - see next line. <redacted>

Please attach <redacted> to my account - if there is one. I'm sure I set one up years ago. Can you please tell when I did? And reset my password.

Thank you.

Duane Schuh

  • Firt off, you should never publicly post your email address. I’ve removed the address from the post for you.
  • To your actual question: User are expected to maintain control of their accounts themselves. There is no way for anyone to add an email to your account if you have not already done so. If you aren’t able to log in and don’t have an email assosciated with the account, then I’m afraid that account is just lost and you’ll have to start a new one. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:09, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
The account User:dsschuh was created 6 June 2014. The account did not specify an email address (this is optional) and has no edits. Just create a new account with another name. If you are really attached to the username then you can request usurpation after you have created another account but this makes work for both you and us, and there is waiting time. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

List Update


How do i include an organisation in a category? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samidrisu (talkcontribs)

By editing the article. At the bottom of the page add [[Category:name of category you wish to add here]] and then save the page, and the category will be added. More information is at Help:Category and there is a helpful gadget you can use called hotcat that makes it even easier. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
@Samidrisu: Note that it's only possible to add a subject to a category if the subject already has an article. If you also want to create an article then it becomes far harder because there are standards for articles. See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Articles for creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Unhelpful complaint


i am willing to donate because i like & use wikipedia many times. but... two years ago i made a addition to the article about Zakynthos ( Greece ) wich was ABSOLUTELY true ( i can proof this by photograps ) and it was fucking removed because someone didn't like my comments because of tourist industries.

how independent is wikipedia anyway?

as long as i don't get any answer on that , no support from me - or my busines friends ever.

Kindly regards ,

C.N.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a443:8dc5:1:80c2:df01:70d1:55be (talkcontribs) 26 April 2018 22:01 (UTC)

A: You don't need to attempt to extort us in order to get us to help you with an edit; We would have looked into it anyways. B: Can you elaborate on what information was taken away and how the photographs prove the information?💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 22:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps you could provide a more definite date than 'two years ago'. There were hundreds of edits to the page in 2016. If you find your edit in the page history and click on 'prev' it will display your change. You can then post the link here so volunteers can look to see why it was removed. Eagleash (talk) 22:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not show advertisements or allow payment to influence content. Here are the 2016 edits to Zakynthos: [1]. You didn't identify the edit so we cannot see what happened but the most likely reason for removal is not giving a published reliable source when it was added. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Add a person to a list

How do I add a footballer to the list off players at a club?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee Collopy (talkcontribs)

@Lee Collopy: Your edits show you refer to Category:Leek Town F.C. players. This is a category and not a list. A category shows articles so a person can only be added to a category if they have an article. They should satisfy Wikipedia:Notability or Wikipedia:Notability (sports) to get an article. It appears you are trying to add yourself so see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I played for Leek Town FC in the 2005-2006 season. There are newspaper articals that confirm this. Also their own website page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee Collopy (talkcontribs)

I trust you but you cannot be added without having an article and I don't think playing for Leek Town F.C. satisfies article requirements like Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#Association football. The club appears to play in a league which is not fully professional and is around level 7 or 8 in the English football league system. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Need help resizing an Image

I uploaded an image that I took of Stef Chura for her infobox. The image is too large and I don't know what to put in the "Image Size" line of the info box to make the photo an appropriate size. Arg Matey (talk) 22:31, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

@Arg Matey: Fixed. In an infobox you only put the filename. I.e. XXXXX:jpg or whatever; no 'file' or square brackets etc. Eagleash (talk) 22:35, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Eagleash! Arg Matey (talk) 23:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Avengers Storyline

Hi Team,

In a article for another movie, complete storyline of Avengers is posted.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 22:32, 26 April 2018 22:32 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for pointing this out. Eagleash (talk) 22:39, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

April 27

Photo copy right.


I am making a Wikipedia site for a client who owns the rights to the picture I uploaded. The copyrighted website that was flagged was my client's personal website. What is the process in getting the picture re-uploaded with the copy right flag?

Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir McEditor99 (talkcontribs)

The undisclosed paid editing is being done on Draft:Maha Akhtar. SirMcEditor has been warned, but has still not made the mandatory disclosure under our Terms of Service. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:00, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

It should be noted that he has now made the requisite disclosure at User:Sir McEditor99. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
@Sir McEditor99: After you resolve the issue regarding paid editing and WP:COI, you can read WP:DCM regarding the photo. The photo will need to be under a license that allows for reuse for any purpose, giving permission only to Wikipedia is not sufficient. RudolfRed (talk) 00:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

change the Image

Please change the photo — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Which of the five million-plus Wikipedia articles are you referring to? Change it to what? Eagleash (talk) 05:21, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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