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July 17

Glen Affric

Sorry - I have failed in my attempt to add 2 page numbers in the ref - number 23 on this page Glen Affric. Please leave in quote and fix correctly. Sorry (talk) 03:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

 Done Looks like someone got to is CTF83! 10:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

About Template:Chinese and Template:Infobox WorldScouting and the typesetting problems with aligned pictures in an article

I've found a problem. When Template:Chinese and Template:Infobox WorldScouting used, the position of left or right aligned pictures cannot fit the correspond section(s) in an article (e.g. Scouts of China). I don't understand the reason of this condition, and help to solve this problem. Thanks! This is Taiwania Justo speaking (Reception Room) 09:51, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed with {{Stack}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:13, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit Wikipedia article to appear in Google search

I have created an Wikipedia article ( but only the Netherlands version appears when searching for 'Grindlay Peerless' in an and rather than the English version I have created. I have changes the advanced settings for the page so that it can be indexed by search engines but this does not seem to have made any difference. Could you please help me rectify this so that the English page can be found as well? Thank you. AndrewFletcher (17/07/17) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewFletcher (talkcontribs) 11:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

@AndrewFletcher: New articles will not be found via Google search until they have been reviewed or for 90 days, whichever is the shorter period. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) A new page will be WP:NOINDEXed until it has been patrolled through the New page patrol process. There is currently a queue of 17474 pages at Special:NewPagesFeed, with a backlog of more than 6 months, but if your page has to wait 90 days it will automatically be indexed. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:54, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

"Followed by..." in book infobox

I was just perusing the Firefox (novel) article, and notice that in the infobox it says that it was followed by Wolfsbane.

Chronologically, this is true - Wolfsbane was released directly after Firefox, but it's confusing for a reader because Firefox had a direct sequel (indeed one that starts the instant Firefox ends,) Firefox Down. The infobox suggests that Wolfsbane is a sequel to Firefox. It also seems confusing that lower down in the article it broaches Firefox down as being the sequel - so one might wonder why Wolfsbane is listed in the infobox.

It would seem to make sense that "followed by" should be the sequel? Is there a precedent for this? Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:42, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Chaheel Riens. The best place to discuss improvements to an article would be the article's talk page; but if you think that you can improve an article, you are welcome to be bold and edit it. I haven't looked at the article, but from your description, perhaps it needs a little expansion to clarify that the publication order is not the same as the internal order. --ColinFine (talk) 13:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
There's some discussion of this at the Talk page for the infobox here. For what it's worth Template:Infobox film used to have a similar parameter and it was deprecated precisely due to editorial issues over its usage and generally a consensus that navboxes were preferable. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 13:10, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Ditto Infobox Video game; used to have it and got rid of it. - X201 (talk) 13:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
ColinFine, notwithstanding that the last person to use the talkpage was me 4 months ago (not a high view article!) but I didn't want to be erroneously bold as although I'm discussing improving the article, I'm discussing doing so in a manner that may have wider implications as it impacts the usage of the infobox and parameters within it.
Still, got some answers here, so all good. Thanks y'all. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

add my client to Wikipedia

Are there proper steps to take to add my Sculptor client to WikiPedia? So that if his name and art is searched in Wiki, his information appears. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katedunn (talkcontribs) 16:20, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Does you client satisfy any of conditions specified in WP:ARTIST? Ruslik_Zero 18:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
@Katedunn: If so, you may request an article by adding your client to the list at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Visual arts. – Fayenatic London 18:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

request edit for Colantonio Incorporated

My name is Amy Fahey. As Marketing Manager of Colantonio, Inc., I request the following edits to our firm's article:

Copied suggested edit to Talk:Colantonio Incorporated

Change the name of the company to: Colantonio Inc.

Change description to: Established in 1978, Colantonio is a $75 million, award-winning construction manager and general contractor based in Holliston, Massachusetts, specializing in the academic, affordable housing, municipal and historical restoration markets. The firm employs less than 50 people and is privately owned. Its annual volume is $75,000,000.

Add Christopher Powers as Vice President to Key People.

Delete current items of Notable Work.

Add as Notable Work:

New Field Elementary School, Weston, Massachusetts

Colantonio, in partnership with Jonathan Levi Architects, received the 2015 Build New England Performance Award from the Associated General Contractors of Massachusetts for this new construction of a 65,390 square foot elementary school in the heart of Weston’s Case Campus Complex. The project also received the 2015 American Architecture Award from the Chicago Athenaeum and The European Center and was a finalist for the 2015 Harleston-Parker Medal from the AIA/Boston Society of Architects and the City of Boston and for the 2015 Award for Design Excellence from the AIA/Boston Society of Architects. As a sustainably designed and built project, it earned the MA-CHPS (Massachusetts Collaborative High Performance School) Verified Leader designation.

Yarn Works Apartments, Fitchburg, Massachusetts

Colantonio converted the historic Fitchburg Yarn Mill building, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, into 96 units of mixed income housing for WinnCompanies. The 182,500 square foot building sits on the banks of the Nashua River and features more than 280 8’ x 10’ windows. The Architectural Team was the designer for the project.

Jamaica Plain Library, Boston, Massachusetts

Colantonio restored the historic Jamaica Plain Branch of the Boston Public Library. The 1911 building, which sits on the corner of South and Sedgwick Streets, had its last renovation in 1936. A glass-enclosed, 2,500 square foot addition to house the new main entry, community meeting spaces, workrooms, a maker space and a reading terrace. Other upgrades include new restrooms, mechanical systems, finishes and exterior landscaping. The architect for the project was Utile, Inc.

New Public Works Facility, Norwood, Massachusetts

The 57,000 square foot project spanned three locations in downtown Norwood. It included site work; demolition; construction of four new buildings, including a new administration building and vehicle maintenance facility; and the renovation of one structure. The facility was kept operational on an extremely restricted site. Weston & Sampson designed the project.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)
Amy: I have copied your requests above to the talk page of the article, where editors will decide whether to act on them. They are more likely to do so if you can supply references for the information you want added. Such references should preferably be to sources independent of the company. Maproom (talk) 20:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
Hello, Amy. Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest and requesting edits, rather than going in and changing the article directly. A more appropriate place to make the request is the talk page Talk:Colantonio Incorporated, and I have copied your request to there, and added the template {{request edit}}, which will put it on a list of suggested edits. There is a backlog on this list; but what I will say is that any volunteer who picks up your request will have to go searching for a source for each of the pieces of information you have asked to be included, because only information which has been reliably published should go in a Wikipedia article. You can reduce their work, and so make it more likely that somebody will be willing to look at your suggestions, by finding the references yourself. Please add a reply on the talk page to where I copied the suggestions, citing reliable published sources (see WP:IRS) for each piece of information - as far as possible, sources unconnected with Colantonio, but for uncontroversial factual information, non-independent sources are acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Death Euphemisms...

Does anyone know if there is specific guidance in the Manual of Style to avoid "lost a battle with cancer" and similar Euphemisms in terms of describing how someone dies? It would seem that "died of cancer" would be better.Naraht (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

WP:EUPHEMISM Furrykiller (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
"Sadly died" is not a euphemism, but very common. Should these mostly be changed to "died" as being more neutral?--Shantavira|feed me 08:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes; 'sadly' tends toward a POV or opinion and ought to be avoided. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

July 18

2017 American And National League Wild Card Game Logos

Can you find the American And National League Wild Card Game Logos. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:3CEF:7AA9:CCC2:DC7B (talk) 02:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but I think the reference desk might be a better place to ask. The help desk is for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. RivertorchFIREWATER 03:46, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Old Article name lingering

Hi, yes! There's this Article that's been on my user page for several months now, it recently got moved to a new name and nowadays whenever I go check on it, it redirects to the Article and it's new name, but the OLD name is still in my watchlist. I'm trying to remove the old articles name from my watchlist add the updated one, but it only adds a 2nd duplicate of said Article. Having no luck trying to fix this dilemma.

Any help would be highly appreciated.

(User Talk:Zucat)

Hello Zucat, there are a few articles on your user page. Which one might you be referring to? Thanks. Lourdes 16:04, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I meant Watchlist. There are 2 articles actually, Aladdin (franchise) and Happy Feet. Both of the these articles were at one point known as "Aladdin (Disney franchise)" and "Happy Feet (franchise)", there old names are still in my watchlist and I can't seem to remove them.

Zucat 16:015, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello again Zucat. You could go to Special:EditWatchlist or Special:EditWatchlist/raw and remove the said titles from your watchlist. Thanks. Lourdes 16:24, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Zucat The old names for the articles are probably redirects to the new names and when you click on them you get taken to the new name, which isn't the one in your watchlist. YOu can either remove them as Lourdes recommends, or you can click on the old name up at the top immediately after the redirect and it will take you to the page for the old name, which you can then remove.Naraht (talk) 16:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

I am trying to use the Template:Efn so that I can include a big comment from Patric Kennedy as well as the reference to where it was found. Someone on a different page that I wrote corrected my references so that the paragraph belo included a (a)footnote for the words while daydreaming...and a reference number 1 for the url:

{{efn|While daydreaming about Tarra, I recalled our first romp on a pristine beach in Santa Barbara, CA. Tarra was a spunky youngster, small by elephant standards, full of playful energy. It was early morning, the sun was just lighting up the southern California sky and the beach was surprisingly empty. Like kids off on a grand adventure we climbed over the dunes that divided the highway from the beach beyond. Tarra sunk to her knees in the dry sand with each gangly step, leaving cavernous holes in her wake.<ref name=p980>{{cite web|url=|title=Elevisions|work=Elevisions}}</ref>

The Template:Efn is in the Carol Buckley page but not in the Irshad Manji page. That is as far as I have gotten.

well the "Cite error ref no input" comes after I try to put the Template:Efn into the page but obviously I've done more wrong.

Starling0616 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starling0616 (talkcontribs) 03:23, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Irshad Manji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
@Starling0616: I've fixed one of the "efn" notes by adding }} at the end. I haven't fixed the other one, because I'm not sure where the end of the note is supposed to be. Down in the "Notes" section, I changed the {{efn}} template into a {{notelist}} template; the first of the "efn" notes is now displaying correctly there. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:20, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Imserting linls into infoboxes

Hello, can anyone please tell me how to insert links into the infobox's field in the Visual Editing mode?
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robie M (talkcontribs) 16:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Robie M: Which link in which infobox? See Help:Link for general help. It describes how to make links with the source editor but if you edit a displayed template parameter with VisualEditor then you write the value in the same way. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: I am refering to musical artist infoboxes and internal links. For example if the artist's instrument is a "piano", how would I hyperlink the "piano" text to the wikipedia article of a piano. Same with country of birth, genres, etc. All these in the visual editor inside the infobox. For more examples, check the infobox on "deadmau5" wikipedia artist page. Cheers.

Ref tag error message,_South_Dakota something seems to be wrong with the source citation for this page that I created I do not know what I need to do to fix it! te error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). South Dakota Zibach County Leroy Aasby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellenb7580 (talkcontribs) 17:05, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

If you open the edit window for the page, you'll see at the bottom: <ref></ref>. If you remove these tags, the error message should go away. Incidentally, this appears to be an early draft and is not ready for primetime. It's completely unsourced and the formatting is pretty consistently messed up. Suggest you work on it in your sandbox instead. Could someone who's not about to go offline move if for the OP? RivertorchFIREWATER 17:20, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Ellenb7580: The error is fairly simple, there are ref tags on the page (I.e. <ref></ref>) without any content within them. I have removed them. I have also fixed some of the layout errors. I would suggest that you try to find articles about a similar subject and see how they are laid out etc. You will also need to add some sources to verify what the article contains. Please see WP:REFB for a guide to citing sources and WP:YFA for advice on creating a page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
It has been moved to Draft:Bridger, South Dakota. Eagleash (talk) 17:38, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Moved to Draft:Bridger, South Dakota as per the suggestion by Rivertorch, above, Ellenb7580. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:41, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

help with page

trying to create a Wikipedia page and have an account. Can I save what I'm working on without it being the finished product and going to Wikipedia administrators? Great mystery (talk) 20:29, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

I'd recommend checking out WP:FIRST if you haven't already. Point #7 under the Introduction discusses a few ways to set up pages without them going official. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 20:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I've moved what I assume is the material you're working on from your user page User:Great mystery to User:Great mystery/Anne Wilson Schaef. Your user page is intended for information about yourself as related to your Wikipedia activities. You can use a subpage of your user page (where I've put it) pretty much how you like, as long as you obey the laws of copyright and libel. Maproom (talk) 20:43, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Page now deleted as a copyright infringement.--Shantavira|feed me 07:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Upload infobox JPG image without worse-quality version being displayed

I just uploaded Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Dic_Poster.jpg for the infobox in Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series).

Using Gimp, I shrunk the original image down to 300px wide, uploaded it, and added it to the infobox. But when I looked at the page, I saw that image displayed was a significantly-lower-quality file called 250px-Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Dic_Poster.jpg, with all sorts of ugly JPG artifacts.

So then I shrank the original image to 250 px wide and replaced the previous one. The result was a new, even worse 250px-Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Dic_Poster.jpg being displayed in the infobox. (I've since reverted this edit.)

The nice-looking 250-px-wide version I uploaded is 80 KB, which is quite small. Why is Wikipedia still degrading its quality if it's already the correct size? Is there any way to display a decent-quality JPG image in an infobox?

Thanks! (And please let me know if there's a better place for me to be posting this!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrostedPenguin87 (talkcontribs) 21:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: I just noticed that on the Zootopia page, the 220px-wide file is being directly displayed, rather than a worse-quality version. I assume this is somehow due to the fact that the file is hosted on --FrostedPenguin87 (talk) 21:41, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi @FrostedPenguin87: This could be due to a variety of reasons. The file displays fine on my computer, so I would assume that you have a slow internet and the file is being shown as a lower resolution in order to speed up the loading time or you have data saving mode activated on your web browser. If you have a 4K or similar display, you might find the image is lower resolution as non-free media files should be replaced with a smaller version to comply with Wikipedia's non-free content policy and United States copyright law. According to Wikipedia's policy for non-free content, the amount of copyrighted work used under fair use should be as little as possible. In particular, non-free media on Wikipedia should not be usable as substitutes for the original work. A high-resolution non-free image is questionable fair use and may be deleted per Wikipedia's copyright policy. (description from Template:Non-free reduce). I hope that helps! Have a nice day, Daylen (talk) 04:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC).
Hmm... Today, I went back to the same page on the same computer, and the image looks much better! (No relevant edits have happened on the page or the image.) I notice that now, when I right-click the image in the infobox and click "view image," it takes me to the original image, on, instead of the "250px-" version. Maybe you're right; maybe I just was having a slow internet connection earlier. Thanks for your reply!  :) --FrostedPenguin87 (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

how to help

Hey, I was wondering if there was anyway for me to easily find pages with spelling mistakes so I could fix them. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpellingMistakesAreForStupidPeople (talkcontribs) 22:00, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@SpellingMistakesAreForStupidPeople: Check out the Typo Team's page at WP:TYPO for tips and tricks to find and fix typos and spelling errors. RudolfRed (talk) 22:51, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

July 19

User name spelt incorrectly

Hi I require some assistance, the user name is spelt incorrectly. how can I change this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pocket sof Brilliance (talkcontribs) 00:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Pocket sof Brilliance. Please follow the directions at Wikipedia:Changing username to request a change of user name. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:58, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Updates Removed by One the Heyman Pleas Guide What to Do or Should I Just Leave This

I updated a profile information, but it was removed immediately. Please inform what to do in this case — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euroyousuf (talkcontribs) 01:46, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Euroyousuf: Which edit are you referring to (which article did you edit). I would be happy to look into it. Have a nice day! Daylen (talk)
Daylen thanks for altering the all caps. It was the edits that this person made to the Chowdhury (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) article that are in question. The name was unsourced and the edits were malformed. IMO they were trying to add someone they know to the list but I could be wrong. MarnetteD|Talk 04:42, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
It looked like they were trying to add themself (or a relative) to the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:52, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

GNAA link when viewing article

It's totally a hack, as it's been on multiple computers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4701:DA4:2CAC:714E:561D:F6ED (talk) 02:49, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

It was an edit on a template used by that article and it has been reverted. It shouldn't be an issue at the moment.--Bsadowski1 02:57, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

ref materials. Can i use?

I recently came into ownership of 1000s of old books, magazines, and journals. Many have good references in regard to Wiki but most of these references are not findable on-line. But are great such as older versions of Time Magazine/ Newsweek etc. but too old for on-line. So here are my questions:

1. can I edit a Wiki article and use these as valid references? 2. If yes, please tell me how? My email is

<contact details redacted> Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Formbearer (talkcontribs) 05:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Answered below. Note that we will not contact you by email barring extraordinary circumstances. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

defacing edits!

The editing of this wikipedia article- is obnoxious. No point to edit it myself cause it will get trolled again. Please fix it if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:18, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I've reverted the recent vandalism. If it happens again drop us a line and I'll add some protection to the article. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Question on references

I am new to Wiki and I tried to ask this question somewhere else. I have access to thousands of old magazine, books, etc that pre-exist the internet. Can these be uses as Wiki references even though they are not clickable? how do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Formbearer (talkcontribs) 08:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Changing an article title (4 years out of date)

Hi, The English-language University of Toulon entry still uses the old name, "University of the South, Toulon-Var", despite a number of users complaining about this over time. The university was renamed in 2013. The page needs to be renamed as "University of Toulon", but I do not believe I have the level of access to make that change. How is it done? Ideally, of course, the old name would then redirect to the new name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulJCompton (talkcontribs) 09:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@PaulJCompton: Article titles are changed by moving the page. Your account is old enough for this but I have moved University of the South, Toulon-Var to University of Toulon. The posts on the talk page were not noticed because the posters didn't use the procedures at Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:02, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page for Google, redirects towards trolling-group's website

By clicking anywhere on the Article tab on Google's Wikipedia page, you are redirected to, the site of the infamous GNAA trolling organisation. Previously it was stated that this was caused by the editing of the template, although I do not know how to reverse this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

The template {{Finance links}} was vandalised earlier today and put right again quickly. It is possible that the system has not yet got round to repairing all the affected articles. I have purged the Google article so it should be OK now. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit count

Hi. There is a problem with my "edit count" page with every thing shown as "0". The link isthis. Please help in fixing it. RRD (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Looks fine. As a general rule, if X!'s tools is broken, just check back in 15 minutes. It's not the most stable thing. TimothyJosephWood 14:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the XTools have been unstable for years. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#XTools 3.0 Beta links a new test version. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Object animation.

Hi there. I am interested in animations like this one in Wikipedia[2] which is an animation of a human hand. There are thousands more, like chemical formulas, etc. What I really need is to design a somewhat modified bones for an artificial hand, eventually perhaps I will have 3-D coordinates for some of the bones, although I actually will begin with one bone only and present it as a 3-D animation. I hope my description makes sense and I want to know if it can be done. I clicked "Edit" on one of the animations to get some insight how you do it and saw a very long hexadecimal number. I suspect this is a result of hand tracking. Not applicable in my case. Any suggestions, please. Thank you, - --AboutFace 22 (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

It's an animated GIF file made with external software and then uploaded like other files. File:Scaphoid bone (left hand) - animation01.gif mentions the software used for this specific file. The link should have gone to Blender (software) (I have fixed this). It's also listed at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab and commons:Commons:Graphic Lab. You may be able to get help there. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter, thank you. You've helped me before. I appreciate it. --AboutFace 22 (talk) 15:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Page rendering problems of Dinesh Lal Yadav

I'm overlooking whatever is causing the problems. After tried a number of possibilities, the best I could do still leaves the table in the wrong position, and it incorporates the WikiCommons link into the table. --Ronz (talk) 15:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Ronz, I guess Trappist's resolved the issue. Thanks. Lourdes 16:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

2018 MLB season by team Template

Can you move the 2018 MLB season by team Template from the Talk Page to the draft Page Please. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:5081:1410:A644:496B (talk) 16:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi @2600:8803:7A00:976A:5081:1410:A644:496B: I have went ahead and filled the edit request. You can find it at Template:2018 MLB season by team. Have a nice day! Daylen (talk) 17:52, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Daylen For filling the edit. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:5081:1410:A644:496B (talk) 18:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Updated user interface in editing

Hi! I've been noticing a new user interface in the editing environment, particularly where edit summaries go. It now shows a count of available characters left, which is a great improvement! But there seem to be a few bugs with it, mainly that I can't see the text once it fills up the field and disappears into the right side, whereas the previous interface followed the text as I was writing. It's frustrating. I tried checking my "Preferences" panel, but found no suitable solution there. I hope I explained myself in an understandable way. Is anybody else experiencing this? LocalNet (talk) 17:33, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi @LocalNet: What web browser are you using? I would be happy to file the bug on Phabricator, and have the devs look at it. Have a nice day! Daylen (talk) 17:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey @Daylen: Google Chrome version 59.0.3071.115 (64-bit) on stable ("Official Build") version. Thanks! :) LocalNet (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
@LocalNet: I have created the bug report, which can be accessed at Cheers, Daylen (talk) 18:01, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm having the same problem. How can I return to the old interface until this is fixed? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 00:32, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
I am also having the problem of not seeing characters after the box fills. I'm using Vivaldi browser version 1.10.867.48 running on Windows 10. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Help Requested with COI editor who *just* doesn't get it

Not sure where to ask, but I've got an admitted COI editor SVHwikieditor (States they are a member of the administration) who basically is rewriting Waldorf School of Baltimore. While the old version isn't great, the new one is unreferenced and NNPOV. I've posted to the person's talk page, but they just don't seem to care. Help would be appreciated.Naraht (talk) 17:35, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@Naraht: I would recommend filing a report at the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Have a nice day! Daylen (talk) 18:04, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
@Daylen: After I suggested bringing in a third party, she jumped to posting on WP:DRN. May be like shooting a mouse with a Bazooka, but at *worst* I think it will be moved to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard.Naraht (talk) 18:18, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Issue on the "The Walt Disney Company" page

That looks very strange, but I have a background link to on the only withting the body of the article. Can anyone please take a look at it? I've checked multiple web browser profiles including clean profiles and the link is still there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:C700:0:803:D1A6:EEF3:A8DC:B08B (talk) 18:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hacked Template has been fixed, see above.Naraht (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hack on SodaStream page

The page for SodaStream is hacked. Clicking anywhere on the page redirects to GNAA press (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hacked Template has been fixed, see above.Naraht (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wrong Language used for Indian Military

Dear Writer,

Please mind the words you are using while writing a content, and do the correction at the earliest as stated below.

Indian militants killed 102 terrorist in first 7 months of year.

India do not have militants, so kindly change and put the right word.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by KapilKumarIndian (talkcontribs) 19:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I can not find this language in Indian Military article. Ruslik_Zero 20:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The question is probably referring to 2017 in India (an exact string search finds the article). The statement has no source to begin with, but maybe someone more knowledgeable can look into this concern. GermanJoe (talk) 21:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
@KapilKumarIndian: We have five million articles. There is a reason the posting instructions say "Please give the exact title or URL of any page you want help with". The statement in 2017 in India was unsourced and used poor English. Based on sources like [3], "militants" and "terrorists" are both names used by India about the people they kill and not their own forces. I have removed the statement.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Problem with the Ankara Province infobox

The population number in the Ankara Province infobox are stuck. I looked in the history and it shows the 2010 population in 2007, even though the population in the code is from the 2000 census. Example from February 2007

I tried to fix it, but I don't know how. ArcticDragonfly (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

  • The infobox uses Template:Metadata Population Turkish province which automatically fills in the population based on numbers from here. One would need to update that template with the current numbers and reference url: seems to be the page for the 2016 stats. CrowCaw 20:14, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Copyvio tool isn't working

The search tool that I typically use for screening new articles for copy pastes - - is returning a bad gateway error. Not familiar with who maintains this tool if someone could assist. Home Lander (talk) 21:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Not that this helps with your question, but I use this: [5]. Maybe you could try it instead? Maineartists (talk) 21:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I've used that one before. I just don't like it as well. ;) Home Lander (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
      • Well, never mind. Just found that it's working again. Home Lander (talk) 21:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
@Home Lander: Sometimes it happens like that, and you should probably wait for a minute until it works. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 22:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

July 20

Template 2018 Big 12 Baseball Standings

Can you Move the 2018 Big 12 Baseball standings Template from the talk to the draft page please. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:5081:1410:A644:496B (talk) 03:30, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

You need to correct the format first. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I manage a band, and they have an old picture with a member no longer in the group on their page. How can I get it updated?

I manage the band Dälek, and their profile picture is 9 years old, and also has a former member in the picture. I would like to see this picture replaced with something more recent, and of higher quality. I also would like to know if there is a way to add another album to their discography. I would try to make the edits myself, but I don't want to violate Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. PAGE: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unitedaudioworkers (talkcontribs) 03:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Adding an album to the discography would probably be fine, but if you want to be safe regarding WP:COI the best way is to make an edit to the talk page requesting the change you want.
In the case of photographs, the best thing to do would be to take a picture of the band today yourself, upload it to [] under a free license, and then again request an edit on the talk page. Alternatively, if you know of a more up-to-date freely-licensed image, you can request that that be used on the talk page. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 08:36, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

no more use of talk pages?

I made an edit (791272342). It was backed up by media files I provided. Then it was reverted by an experienced user masqueradiing as an ip. no references for the revert was given, no message on my talk page or the article talk page. the same happened on the correspondening german page. At least the reverter did not hide behind an ip. but still no message on the talk page. only the proposal to add the info instead to another page - but that does not exist. WMF spends money to attract new authors. but when one shows up, he gets bitten away. Is it no more usual to discuss things? --Schelm500 (talk) 03:57, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

The IP gave an explanation in the edit summary of the reversion. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
@Schelm500: The English Wikipedia allows anonymous editing. Even if the IP has an account (which I see no evidence of), editing without logging in is only disallowed by Wikipedia:Sock puppetry in certain cases I see no sign of here. It's relatively rare and not required to post to the talk page when you revert an edit. Explaining it in the edit summary is correct. A revert causes an alert with a "View changes" link where the edit summary is displayed. The reversion in the German Wikipedia also explained it in the edit summary.[6] The mentioned page "0-Euro-Schein" does exist: de:0-Euro-Schein. I found it by copy-pasting the quoted name to the search box. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
The reversion was this edit, Schelm500, with the reason given that "0 euro is not an official banknote". I don't know if that is correct or not, but that was the reason given. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
It's a collector's item without face value, as detailed in the German article, so this was correcly reasoned. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 02:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Weird placement of photos in iPhone 7 article

Hi! In the wikitext on the iPhone 7 article, the port comparison photo is located in the "Hardware" section, but for me, the actual page shows that photo in the "Performance issues" section. That's weird. Is anybody else experiencing this? LocalNet (talk) 10:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed with {{stack}}.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! :) LocalNet (talk) 10:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion regarding addition of a new page in Rafael Nadal.

Sir I would like to request you that please add a page named legacy in the wiki of Rafael Nadal and describe his legacy. I have seen these kind of pages in many other sportpersons wikipedia. Rafael Nadal is one of the legends of tennis, so I would like to you to please add this page and describe his legacy.THANK YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:Rafael Nadal has lots of articles including List of career achievements by Rafael Nadal, Rafael Nadal career statistics and 13 season articles in a subcategory. He is probably in the top-5 for most Wikipedia articles about athletes. I don't know what kind of legacy page you refer to. I haven't seen one and you gave no example. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

hi. I'm trying to put posters for films but I cant seem to put it where can you put posters at? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkimaster11 (talkcontribs) 
Hello, Jkimaster11. What are you trying to do? As far as I can see from your contributions, you have uploaded new versions of a number of posters, but haven't edited any articles. --ColinFine (talk) 20:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)


I'm trying to write a more detailed history of St. James Cathedral (Chicago) for which I am the associate for administration. What format should I use to cite historical facts from outside sources? MLA? APA? Chicago?


AT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ataylor65 (talkcontribs) 16:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi, Ataylor65! Thanks for your interest and upfront disclosure about your affiliation with St. James Cathedral. This is somewhat of a tricky situation at Wikipedia, since contributors who are associated with organizations (paid, volunteers, etc) are discouraged from editing. If you quickly take a look here: A Plain and Simple Conflict of Interest Guide you'll get a better understanding of the reasons why. However, this should not deter you from expressing your concerns, views and requests. Please visit the Talk Page for the article, disclosure your affiliation, make friends with the editors for the page, bring all reliable sources to their attention; and ask if they will contribute and edit on your behalf. I applaud your honesty. Most editors would just edit the page and never disclose their connections. Cheers! Maineartists (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
To answer the question you originally asked, Ataylor65, Wikipedia does not have one standard citation format, but will accept any reasonable format. See WP:CITEVAR. However, a given article should use a consistent format, so if all the cites in a given article already use a particular format, stick with that one. If you choose to use our Citation templates, then our home-grown styles CS1 or CS2 will be used, which are similar to Chicago, but not identical. See Referencing for Beginners and the pages linked from there.
When adding suggestions to a talk page for insertion into an article, you can use {{request edit}} to draw attention to them and ask that they be reviewed and added to the article. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:14, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Help: Coke Studio

Hi! Please see 'Talk:Coke Studio (Pakistan)#Any update?'. There is much repitition in the page and its subpages. Also, see Category:Coke Studio, which may not follow WP:SUBCAT properly. Here, I want to take help to make request on WP:AfD for redirect/deletion of 'List of Coke Studio (Pakistan) episodes', and many useless categories, to avoid repititions with Coke Studio (Pakistan) seasons' pages (S1-S10). Also, I want to have a userbox for the show (sample code here). And please guide what to do on Portal:Coke Studio (Pakistan). Need help, hope for your kind response. Thanks! :) M.Billoo2000 (talk · contribs) 16:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Paul Concus

Would someone please look at this article, make any formatting changes required by Wikipedia, and if possible transform it into a formatted article suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia? Thank you.

<Copyright violation removed. @Clarityfiend: Please always, at the least, blank copyright violations, if not blank and then ask for redaction using {{Copyvio-revdel}}--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:26, 20 July 2017 (UTC)>

Some selected research papers (from Google Scholar and MathSciNet)

with Robert Finn: “On the Behavior of a Capillary Surface in a Wedge", Proc Natl Acad Sci USA. 63 (2) 292-299 June 1969

with Gene H. Golub and Dianne P. O’Leary: “A Generalized Conjugate Gradient Method for the Numerical Solution of Elliptic Partial Differential Equations”, Sparse Matrix Computations, J.R. Bunch and D.J. Rose, eds, Academic Press 1976, 309-332.

with Robert Finn and Mark Weislogel, “Capillary Surfaces in an Exotic Container: Results from Space Experiments, J. Fluid Mech. 394, 1999, 119-135. (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

One major problem is that much of this is a word-for-word copy of his bio at the US Department of Energy, which is copyrighted. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:48, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Uh, Clarityfiend, why do you say it's copyrighted? Why isn't this {{PD-USGov-DOE}}? Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
That's what this disclaimer says. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

From Paul Concus: Yes, The opening sentences are a bio I wrote for UC Lawrence Berkeley Lab (LBL). I don't believe it's copyrighted (I wrote it myself for local consumption in Berkeley). Then I added a sentence about the Concus-Finn condition for Wikipedia. Is this not allowed? I could change or delete the LBL bio. I would appreciate specific instructions about what to do (I'm unfamiliar with Wikipedia terminology). Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Anonymous Hacking Collective Correction

I Colleen_card created the Anonymous hacking & Activist Collective in 1998, (Redacted) Welcome to the Anonymous collective, the hive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? That's what this help desk is for. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:43, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Related autoblocks

WP:AUTOBLOCK notes that it's important for admins to review the block list, since inappropriate autoblocks (i.e. ones that we wouldn't implement intentionally, not inappropriate decisions by a blocking admin) can sometimes be detected by the same block resulting in a bunch of autoblocks in a short period of time.

Is it possible to get a list of all autoblocks associated with a single original non-auto block action? Special:AutoblockList has a few sets of entries in which each appears to be associated with the same block (the rationale, complete with the username of the blocked user, is identical), but they all have different autoblock numbers, so aside from the block rationale (which won't help much if the blocking admin just grabbed a reason from the Special:Block dropdown), I can't see a way to do this. Nyttend (talk) 23:11, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

July 21

Robert Lloyd Sherriff Poet Actor Author Singer Australia how do i add his details on your site? or i want is place to load all his details

Robert Lloyd Sherriff Poet Actor Author Singer Australia How do I add his details on your site? or I want is a place to load all his details

your site is so hard I love his poetry — Preceding unsigned comment added by STEVELASTDAY871954 (talkcontribs) 00:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi STEVELASTDAY871954, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am assuming that you mean this Robert Lloyd Sherriff: Robert Sherriff? If so, the subject would have to meet Wikipedia's Notability Requirements for People first, before an article could be considered for creation. If the subject does meet the requirements for notability, you can yourself create an article here: Your First Article or request an article for creation: Request an Article. Please keep in mind however that 1) you must have a certain number of edits to your history before you can create and post an article to WP - and - 2) the log for requested articles is quite extensive and may not only take a considerable amount of time, but also be rejected. I hope this helps - and best of luck! Maineartists (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Martineau family

I have added a file to this page - please confirm that it is all correctly done. (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Yes. You indeed added the file correctly to the article's page. However, the file image itself is not standard Wikipedia quality and the image file name is incorrect. It description is misleading; and the subject displayed is confusing. The editor who uploaded the file has a long standing within the community as a teacher who allows students to use their account to practice certain tasks on WP. It would be best if the image was uploaded in a better quality format. However, your edit was spot on. Congratulations. Maineartists (talk) 01:51, 21 July 2017 (UTC)\
    • I have fixed up file and added the actual caption which is on the original page - "Awaiting the arrival of Her Majesty Queen Victoria". Please check. Thanks (talk) 05:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
      • Much better! ... Kudos! PS re: Placement - you may want to re-align the image under the section Lord Mayors of Birmingham for spacing reasons. Maineartists (talk) 11:22, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

How to change Wikipedia font size?

  • Just now I accidentally caught wrong keys and my Wikipedia screen font size suddenly went to maximum "for readers with poor eyesight" mode. Please how can I set it back to my preference? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Did you try pressing the "Ctrl" button and moving the mouse scroll wheel? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:52, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
@Anthony Appleyard: Press Control and zero (CTRL + 0) on Windows or Command + zero (+0) on a Mac. - X201 (talk) 08:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Linkin Park

There is something strange going on with this article. When I go to it, all the links are re-directing me to an inappropriate website. Other users seem to have reported the issue on the talk page. -- (talk) 04:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

There appear to be several established editors watching it now. A request was placed a while ago to protect the article, but it hasn't been acted on yet {subtle hint to any admins watching the help desk). RivertorchFIREWATER 05:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Rivertorch, The article is currently autofirmed-edit, sysop-move, and has been for seven years (note, no isp edits). Admin-only edit seems OTT Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
There was some template vandalism earlier, which has now been fixed. If anyone's still experiencing problems they should bypass their cache. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: I noticed the request at RPP when I was there for another reason. I see now that someone was asking for PC, not semi. (Incidentally, there is an intermediate stage between semi and full, right? It would constitute an increase in protection level from semi. Not sure if PC is considered to fit that bill nowadays.) RivertorchFIREWATER 06:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Living Computers: Museum + Labs - two sections don't work

In Living Computers: Museum + Labs, you cannot go to the "Photos" or "In the media" sections. I suspect that there is an error with the table above it, but I don't know what is wrong. Can someone fix it? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Weird. The problem is definitely with the table, but I can't find it. I can make the sections (and their titles) display properly or the table display properly but not both at the same time. On a related note, I'm not clear why there's a separate Photos section. (That's neither here nor there re the question; any section placed below the table gets its top chopped off.) RivertorchFIREWATER 06:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
I've fixed it by removing "class=floatright" from the table definition. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Publishing drafts

What's the best way to get a draftified page back to mainspace where the original page is protected? Hack (talk) 07:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

You can make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

This request was passed from a Cite error help page

I added some details on the Leh Floods and wanted to add the published reference: Sedimentary and Geomorphic Signatures of a Cloud burst and triggered flash floods in the Indus valley of Ladakh Himalaya. SSG S.J. SANGODE , D.C. MESHRAM , S. RAWAT , Y. KULKARNI , D.M. CHATE. Himalayan Geology 38 (1), 12-29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed To use List-defined references the whole article would have to have its references structured that way. I have inserted your reference in the text so that is shows in the reference list near the end: Noyster (talk), 11:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
@Noyster: You're clearly wrong. There is no such requirement, the <ref> just needs to be formed properly, independent of whether other refs are defined this or that way. --CiaPan (talk) 11:58, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
True, technically mixing styles like this is possible, but not recommended as it could be confusing to future editors of the page. Per WP:LDRHOW: List-defined references and references defined in the body of the article may be mixed on a page—this is not a technical limitation of the template. However, this may be confusing to ongoing editors, and should be normalized to a single style, per WP:CITEVAR.: Noyster (talk), 12:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
That's it: it is a matter of style, not a technical requirement as you wrote above ('the whole article would have to have its references structured that way'). And the actual problem with the OP's edit was a triple of errors:
1° mismatched names for a ref ("Sangode et al 2017" vs. rename14),
2° wrong closing tag (<ref> ... <ref> instead of <ref> ... </ref>), and
3° lacking closing braces }} for {{reflist}}
but certainly NOT placing the reference in a wrong place. --CiaPan (talk) 12:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
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