Wikipedia:Files for discussion

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Files for discussion (FfD) is for listing images and other media files which are unneeded or have either free content or non-free content usage concerns. Files that have been listed here for more than 7 days are eligible for either deletion or removal from pages if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to deletion or removal have been raised. To quote the non-free content criteria, "it is the duty of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; those seeking to remove or delete it are not required to show that one cannot be created." For undeletion requests, first contact the administrator who deleted the file. If you are unable to resolve the issue with that administrator, the matter should be brought to deletion review.

Examples of what files you may request for deletion or change here:

  • Obsolete – The file has been replaced by a better version.
  • Orphan – The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia.
  • Unencyclopedic – The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in any Wikimedia project.
  • Low quality – The file is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns.
  • Copyright violation – The file might be used in violation of copyright.
  • Possibly unfree – The file is tagged with a freeness claim, but may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States.
  • NFCC violation – The file is used under a claim of fair use but does not meet the requirements.
  • NFCC applied to free image – The file is used under a claim of fair use, but the file is either too simple, or is an image which has been wrongly labeled given evidence presented on the file description page.

If you have questions if something should be deleted, consider asking at Media Copyright Questions.

What not to list here

  1. For concerns not listed below, if a deletion is uncontroversial, do not use this page. Instead tag a file with {{subst:prod}}. However, if the template is removed, please do not reinsert it; list the file for deletion then.
  2. For speedy deletion candidates as well, do not use this page; instead use one of the speedy deletion templates. See the criteria for speedy deletion. These are: duplicates (where both files are on Wikipedia), thumbnails, broken files, non-existent files, non-commercial, "by permission" files and files which are not an image, sound file or video clip and have no encyclopedic use.
  3. Files that have no source, have an unknown copyright, are unused or replaceable non-free, or are non-free without rationale can be marked so that they will be deleted after a week, and should not be listed on this page. Add one of the following to the file page:
    1. {{subst:nsd}} if a file has no source indicated
    2. {{subst:nld}} if a file has a source but no licensing information
    3. {{subst:orfud}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but isn't used in any articles
    4. {{subst:rfu}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but could be replaced by a free file
    5. {{subst:dfu|reason}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but the rationale isn't sufficient or is disputed
    6. {{subst:nrd}} if a file has no non-free use rationale
  4. Redundant or duplicate files do not have to be listed here. Please use
    1. {{db-f1|Full name of file excluding the "File:" prefix}} for speedy deletion if the other file is on Wikipedia, not on Commons
    2. {{now commons|File:NEW FILENAME}} if the file now exists on Commons, or {{now commons}} for files with the same name on Commons. (Don't nominate protected images, they are usually locally uploaded and protected since they are used in an interface message or in a highly used template, thus they are high-risk.)
  5. For blatant copyright infringements, use speedy deletion by tagging the file {{db-f9}}
  6. If a file is listed as public domain or under a free license, but lacks verification of this (either by an OTRS ticket number or a notice on the source website), tag it as {{subst:npd}}.
  7. Files that are hosted on Wikimedia Commons cannot be deleted via this process. Please use the Commons deletion page instead.
  8. Description pages with no local file, even though they are in the file namespace, should not be listed here.
    1. Redirects should be treated as in any other namespace: if no speedy deletion criteria apply, they should be listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion.
    2. Local description pages with no associated file are speedy-deletable under criterion G8; use {{db-imagepage}}.
    3. Local description pages for files hosted on Commons are usually speedy-deletable under criterion F2 if there is no content relevant to Wikipedia; use {{db-fpcfail}}.
    4. Any other local description pages for files hosted on Commons should be listed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion.
  9. If a file is appropriately licensed and could be usable elsewhere, consider copying it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of listing it for deletion. Once copied to the Commons, it is eligible for speedy deletion per criterion 8 for files.
  10. If you are the uploader of the image, tag it with {{db-author}}.

Instructions for listing files for discussion

To list a file:

1
Edit the file page.

Add {{ffd|log=2017 August 23}} to the file page.

2
Create its FfD subsection.

Follow this edit link and list the file using {{subst:ffd2|File_name.ext|Uploader= |Reason= }} ~~~~

Leave the subject heading blank.

If the file has been replaced by another file, name the file that replaced it in your reason for deletion. Refer below for a list of other common reasons.

For listing additional files with the same reason, edit the first file section and use {{subst:ffd2a|File_name.ext |Uploader= }} for each additional file. Also, add {{ffd|log=2017 August 23}} to the top of the file page of each file other than the first one nominated.

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Give due notice.

Inform the uploader by adding a message to their talk page using {{subst:fdw|File_name.ext}}

  • Remember to replace "File_name.ext" with the name of the image or media
  • For multiple images by the same user, use {{subst:fdw-multi|First_file.ext |Second_file.ext |Third_file.ext}} ~~~~ (can handle up to 26)

If the image is in use, also consider adding {{ffdc|File_name.ext|log=2017 August 23}} to the caption(s), or adding a notice to the article talk pages. Consider also notifying relevant WikiProjects of the discussion.

State the reasons why the file should be deleted, removed, or altered. Also, state what specific action should be taken, preferably in bold text; this allows discussion participants and closers to better understand the purpose of the nomination. Some examples of nomination statements include:

  • Delete. Orphaned with no foreseeable encyclopedic usage.
  • Delete. Replaced by File:FILE2.
  • Free (public domain) file may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States. This photograph was actually first published in 1920, not 1926.
  • Remove from ARTICLE1 and ARTICLE2. The file only meets WP:NFCC#8 with its use in ARTICLE3.
  • Non-free file may actually be free. This logo does not seem to meet the threshold of originality to be eligible for copyright in the United States and should actually be tagged free using {{PD-logo}}.


Some common reasons for deletion or removal from pages are:

  • Obsolete - The file has been replaced by a better version. Indicate the new file name
  • Orphan - The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia. (If the file is only available under "fair use", please use {{subst:orfud}} instead). Please consider moving "good" free licensed files to Commons rather than outright deleting them, other projects may find a use for them even if we have none; you can also apply {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}.
  • Unencyclopedic - The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in this encyclopedia (or for any Wikimedia project). Images used on userpages should generally not be nominated on this basis alone unless the user is violating the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not policy by using Wikipedia to host excessive amounts unencyclopedic material (most commonly private photos).
  • Low quality - The image is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns.
  • Copyright violation - The file might be used in violation of copyright.
  • Possibly unfree file - The file marked as free may actually be non-free. If the file is determined to be non-free, then it will be subject to the non-free content criteria in order to remain on Wikipedia.
  • Non-free file issues - The non-free file may not meet all requirements outlined in the non-free file use policy, or may not be necessary to retain on Wikipedia or specific articles due to either free alternatives or better non-free alternative(s) existing.
  • File marked as non-free may actually be free - The file is marked non-free, but may actually be free content. (Example: A logo may not eligible for copyright alone because it is not original enough, and thus the logo is considered to be in the public domain.)

These are not the only "valid" reasons to discuss a file. Any properly explained reason can be used. The above list comprises the most common and uncontroversial ones.

If you remove a file from an article, list the article from which you removed it so there can be community review of whether the file should be deleted. This is necessary because file pages do not remember the articles on which the file were previously used.

Administrator instructions

Contents

Instructions for discussion participation

In responding to the deletion nomination, consider adding your post in the format
* '''View''' - Reasoning ... -- ~~~~
where "Delete", "Keep", "Comment", or something else may replace "View". In posting their reasoning, many editors use abbreviations and cite to the following:

Remember that polling is not a substitute for discussion. Wikipedia's primary method of determining consensus is through editing and discussion, not voting. Although editors occasionally use straw polls in an attempt to test for consensus, polls or surveys sometimes impede rather than assist discussion. They should be used with caution, and are no more binding than any other consensus decision.

Also remember that if you believe that an image is potentially useful for other projects and should be moved to Wikimedia Commons, in lieu of responding '''Move to Commons''', you can move it there yourself. See Wikipedia:Moving files to the Commons for instructions.

Instructions for closing discussions

Nominations should be processed for closing after being listed for 7 days following the steps here.

Old discussions

The following discussions are more than 7 days old and are pending processing by an administrator:

For older nominations, see the archives.

Discussions approaching conclusion

Recent nominations

August 17

File:Awesome page of awesome.JPG

File:Awesome page of awesome.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fish and karate (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Orphaned personal file, no foreseeable use. WP:NOTWEBHOST Jon Kolbert (talk) 05:29, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep as creator, it is used to work out the layout and formatting of my user page (User:Fish and karate), so serves a purpose. As a Wikipedia user, contributor, and administrator, it is helpful to dispay a friendly, clear, and welcoming user page. It is beneficial to me to have this file to ensure my user page formatting is consistent and achieves those aims. fish&karate 11:13, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete per nomination. @Fish and karate: you can keep this file offline in your PC or in some web cloud service, Wikipedia is not a webhost. XXN, 13:55, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Game-of-Thrones-S06-E08-No-One.jpg

File:Game-of-Thrones-S06-E08-No-One.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AffeL (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image was added for use in the article No One (Game of Thrones), but when the same user nominated the page for GA status User:Miyagawa told them that the image needed to go because of its poor fair use rationale. AffeL complied initially, then a few minutes after the page was promoted logged into the sock account User:PeterD12 and readded the image. There was already "consensus" on the GAN to remove the image, even if one of the parties was lying (read:with the image in the article, the GAN was effectively null and void), so I have now reremoved the image. It is not currently used anywhere on the project, and this situation is unlikely to change. Hijiri 88 (やや) 06:35, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete. This image was added back to the article with the slightly cryptic explanation that it had been nominated here. In any case, its use pretty clearly does not meet NFCC#8. As a community, we've done a great job in recent years of cutting back the use of random screenshots in episode articles, and the general consensus is that while a single cover/poster image is acceptable in an article about a film, we do not need to use screenshots in episode articles (and I'm sad to see that GoT articles appear to be bucking that trend). Screenshots that are necessary for readers to understand the article are of course acceptable, but this certainly doesn't seem to be a case of that sort. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:16, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Huh. I was actually going to withdraw the above once I saw that the uploader had been notified that the file was a candidate for speedy deletion, but apparently speedy deletion is no longer on the table now that the image has been added back to the article. @Aspects: Care to elaborate on your rationale for re-adding it? Note that "the infobox image has to go" was actually a requirement for the page being promoted to GA, so the article should have been automatically demoted when the nominator/uploader added the image back. Re-inserting the image again seems completely pointless, and unless you are going to argue for the image to be kept (and presumably open the requisite GAR?), I can't imagine why you would bother. Hijiri 88 (やや) 12:49, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Jabberjaws.jpg

File:Jabberjaws.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Giantdevilfish (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The comic book cover is used in the Other appearances section of Jabberjaw accompanying the sentence "He also appeared in Hanna-Barbera Presents: Superstar Olympics (issue #6) published by Archie Comics in 1996 and Cartoon Network Presents (issue #23) published by DC Comics in 1999." The image has two fair use rationales. One states that the comic book cover is used "For identification purposes in conjunction with discussion of the topic of the article.", but this is incorrect since the topic of the article is the television show and not the comic book and there is already the title card in the infobox identifying the television show. The second states the comic book cover is used "Illustration of a specific point within the article." which is half of a sentence. Readers do not need a comic book cover in an article to know that it exists since the text already states that.

The comic book cover fails WP:NFCC#1 since the text "He also appeared in Hanna-Barbera Presents: Superstar Olympics (issue #6) published by Archie Comics in 1996 and Cartoon Network Presents (issue #23) published by DC Comics in 1999." is sufficient to describe that the comic book exists without the cover being present, WP:NFCC#3a in that there is a screenshot in the infobox for means of identification and fails WP:NFCC#8 because there is no critical commentary about the cover thereby doing nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film. Aspects (talk) 08:06, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep. The comic book cover is to illustrate a point in the article covering the character's appearances outside the medium of television (in this case comicbooks) which is why its located in the "Other appearances" section. This upload not only illustrates this but will give readers a visual to see the character appearing in another form of media outside of its original medium hence the Illustration of a specific point within the article. That was the whole point of the upload. It was to give a visual on how the character has evolved past its original TV incarnation. So when it states For identification purposes in conjunction with discussion of the topic of the article it does so by illustrating a point (or sub-topic) in the main article itself.Giantdevilfish (talk) 13:15, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - the comic book cover does not have any real discussion about in the article that would be sufficient to meet WP:NFCC#8. Furthermore, the appearance of the character is substantially similar to show character and as such the claim to provide a visual, which itself is not sufficient, becomes even weaker. -- Whpq (talk) 14:39, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Grapeape.jpg

File:Grapeape.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Giantdevilfish (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The comic book cover is used in the Other appearances section of The Great Grape Ape Show accompanying the sentence "Grape Ape had his own short-lived comic book series called The Great Grape Ape that ran 2 issues in September and November 1976 published by Charlton Comics." The image has two fair use rationales. One states that the comic book cover is used "For identification purposes in conjunction with discussion of the topic of the article.", but this is incorrect since the topic of the article is the television show and not the comic book and there is already the title card in the infobox identifying the television show. The second states the comic book cover is used "Illustration of a specific point within the article." which is one sentence. Readers do not need a comic book cover in an article to know that it exists since the text already states that.

The comic book cover fails WP:NFCC#1 since the text "Grape Ape had his own short-lived comic book series called The Great Grape Ape that ran 2 issues in September and November 1976 published by Charlton Comics." is sufficient to describe that the comic book exists without the cover being present, WP:NFCC#3a in that there is a screenshot in the infobox for means of identification and fails WP:NFCC#8 because there is no critical commentary about the cover thereby doing nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film. Aspects (talk) 08:13, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep. The comic book cover is to illustrate a point in the article covering the character's appearances outside the medium of television (in this case comicbooks) which is why its located in the "Other appearances" section. This upload not only illustrates this but will give readers a visual to see the character appearing in another form of media outside of its original medium hence the Illustration of a specific point within the article. That was the whole point of the upload. It was to give a visual on how the character has evolved past its original TV incarnation. So when it states For identification purposes in conjunction with discussion of the topic of the article it does so by illustrating a point (or sub-topic) in the main article itself.Giantdevilfish (talk) 13:14, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - the comic book cover does not have any real discussion about in the article that would be sufficient to meet WP:NFCC#8. Furthermore, the appearance of the character is substantially similar to show character and as such the claim to provide a visual, which itself is not sufficient, becomes even weaker. -- Whpq (talk) 14:37, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:ManilaPeninsula PressConference.jpg

File:ManilaPeninsula PressConference.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rizalninoynapoleon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Nature of img suggests it is likely a screenshot from a newscast, but file description (falsely) claims it is a free img (to the extent of my knowledge screenshots and/or visual content of Philippines newscasts are always copyright and not freely licenced nor in public domain). JWilz12345 (talk) 12:22, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:CheneyClowDescendantscelebrating67anniversary.jpg

File:CheneyClowDescendantscelebrating67anniversary.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ddjgarrett (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free photo of a newspaper article used in Cheney Clow article fails WP:NFCC#1. The fact that one of the descendants was married 67 years is adequately described with text and does not require a non-free image of a newspaper article to understand that. Whpq (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Elsa Cladera de Bravo.jpg

File:Elsa Cladera de Bravo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nadezhda Bravo Cladera (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no evidence that this photography really is free. The rationale from the file page (Quote: "SINCE THE NEWSPAPER'S PUBLICATION OF THIS PHOTOGRAPHY WAS FOR OFFICIAL USE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN") is wrong (not anything which was published for official use is in the public domain). XXN, 13:50, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Kimwani 200px.png

File:Kimwani 200px.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Linda Martens (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Obviously wrong license tag – Train2104 (t • c) 13:52, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Zirid map.png

File:Zirid map.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bye for now (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Screenshot of a template map. Can we use the template itself instead? – Train2104 (t • c) 13:54, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Nessaea obrina Jari.JPG

File:Nessaea obrina Jari.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wloveral (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unfortunately the permission for use is unverifiable :( XXN, 14:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Ellwood Family Cemetery.jpg

File:Ellwood Family Cemetery.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jweaver28 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Poor quality, unclear image. XXN, 14:30, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I have no objection if it replaced by a better quality image. It was taken on a late fall afternoon and is backlit. However, the picture's point is the cemetery's one-sided blandness, so I most definitely do object to its removal without replacement. It is used in the Ellwood Manor article (that I initially wrote), to illustrate the section about the American Civil War, in which the manor featured on several levels. The small fenced-in cemetery surrounds a large tree on a hillock among farm fields. The only monument/gravestone is to Stonewall Jackson's arm, although many family members are buried there, including a woman (Hannah Jones Coalter) who went to extraordinary lengths attempting to free her dozens of slaves in her will, only to have her final wishes circumvented by the Lacy brothers and their allies in Virginia Supreme Court shortly before the war.Jweaver28 (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Steven Reineke.jpg

File:Steven Reineke.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AL2TB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

In source page was stated "Members of the media may download these high-resolution images for use in publication." But the license wasn't specified and we are not sure under which conditions is ok to publish and use this photo. XXN, 15:15, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:AdinathDada(Vataman).jpg

File:AdinathDada(Vataman).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Emremind (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

possible derivative of non-free content (statue). Note that the image itself also appears to be a scan of another image (i.e. this is a derivative of a derivative work?!) FASTILY 23:33, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Divine encounters jain.jpg

File:Divine encounters jain.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Legalaxis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused in mainspace, low-res, missing verifiable source, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 23:34, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Soul Attracting Karma.jpg

File:Soul Attracting Karma.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Indian Chronicles (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

dubious self-work claim, numerous tineye hits FASTILY 23:36, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

August 18

File:William Doughty Ship USS Delaware Cropped.jpg

File:William Doughty Ship USS Delaware Cropped.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lucky For You (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is of an oil painting claimed to be in the public domain due to expired copyright on the basis of life of author + 100 years. Note that the stated author is "Artist Unknown" so that claim by itself seems unsupported. The second source link provided however has explicit credit for the image stating "Oil painting by Rear Adm J. W. Schmidt". Schmidt died in 1981. See the description for File:USSConstellationVsInsurgente.jpg or this internet post. Whpq (talk) 11:22, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

File:William Doughty Portrait Cropped.jpg

File:William Doughty Portrait Cropped.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lucky For You (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is licensed as public domain based on the copyright being expired due to lifetime of author + 100 years. However the stated author is "Artist Unknown". There is insufficient information provided to support this licensing. Whpq (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Fukuryu Painted Action Figure View I B.jpg

File:Fukuryu Painted Action Figure View I B.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lucky For You (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is a photograph of a toy. Although the photographer made the image, it is still a derivative work of a copyrighted figure. See c:COM:Toys Whpq (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

File:FC Utrecht.png

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT 19:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:FC Utrecht.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ultras GE~enwiki (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

An updated version was uploaded on Commons under the same name c:File:FC Utrecht.png. Delete this file, but don't remove filelinks from articles. XXN, 17:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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File:NAC Breda.png

File:NAC Breda.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Matej1234 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Pd-textlogo. Now on Commons as File:Logo NAC Breda.png, in a slightly modified version which corresponds to the one from the official website. XXN, 19:42, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Nova Scotia Welcome Center at Dusk.jpg

File:Nova Scotia Welcome Center at Dusk.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Theyab 07 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The permission is unverifiable if it was granted privately. In source page is no mention about PD. XXN, 21:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Julia Meade.png

File:Julia Meade.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Giangkiefer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Sourced to Wikia, but file description page there provides no source. Unless evidence is provided to the contrary, we'll have to assume it's a license wash. – Train2104 (t • c) 23:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - Almost certainly a screen grab. Th wikia from which this came provides no source information or any information. -- Whpq (talk) 11:07, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

August 19

File:Wade michael page police handout.png

File:Wade michael page police handout.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Medeis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The mugshot taken in supposedly Wisconsin was discussed at Talk:Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting#Image of Wade Michael Page as a pre-nomination. I thought about PRODding it. However, because the uploader is one of long-time active editors, I realized that I should take precaution, so I pinged the uploader instead while starting the discussion there. There, the image's compliance of WP:NFCC and copyright status were discussed. Replacing the image with a freer image was considered, but I wasn't sure whether a mugshot from North Carolina is free to use. The other participants there disagreed; no freer replacement was uploaded.

One reason to have the image deleted: the biographical image is used in the non-biographical article about the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting. Even when the section about the perpetrator is detailed, I believe that readers would already understand the event/shooting itself without this image. The shooting itself, not the shooter himself, is the article subject. Another reason: The image isn't necessary to help readers understand that the perpetrator was one of white supremacists. Even the article doesn't (and shouldn't) emphasize too much on his appearance (unless his overall appearance is the important part of the shooting). Sure, racial hatred was the motive for murder and one of major components of the event. The image might be replaceable or irreplaceable. Regardless, the image fails the "contextual significance" criterion.

Of course, I would hear different interpretations on the criterion otherwise. At first I thought about having a central discussion about image of various perpetrators, but I decided to nominate this individual image on the safer side before doing so. --George Ho (talk) 00:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC); amended, 00:38, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

  • The matter was already discussed on the article's talk page, there was no consensus to delete, and bringing the matter here strikes me forum-shopping--although I do appreciate the heads up. The argument that the article can be understood with a picture of the dead perpetrator (whose reputation in death cannot be damaged under common law) is not a positive reason to delete it. Indeed, we should think of the readers' curiosity. There's no reason to force them to use a search engine when we have an image. The sole concern might be copyright, but the mugshot was widely distributed, and our fair use of it does not infringe on its potential monetary value. μηδείς (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
You mean "understood without a picture", right? --George Ho (talk) 21:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:AM2R Return of Samus.png

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 08:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:AM2R Return of Samus.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ProjectHorizons (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Text logo, so whilst this is acceptable under the current license, I am querying why it needs to be "fair use", especially as the equivalent media at Wikimedia Commons c:File:AM2R-Return-of-Samus-Logo.png was considered too simple to eligible for copyright protection. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Relicense to pd-logo and delete the local copy in favour of the Commons copy. Salavat (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:233326wjxxl6.jpeg

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by RHaworth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 10:08, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:233326wjxxl6.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ykashgari (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is claimed as creative COmmons, but it looks more like a third party logo design, and the URL given needs deciphering. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I have developed this vision, saudi vision 2020/2030, and I have designed this logo ... and I have not submitted to the reseant government ... and I could maintain the rights researved for this logo ...

   Eng. Yasir I. Kashgari

Name: Eng. Yasir I. Kashgari

     Great vectory...

Occupation: Business Owner

           Author

Home country: United Kingdom Religion: Crestian

         Not arab, Not muslims ...

caute: Pleasure could be the most exciting sense in humans life... Website: https://www.yaserkashgari.wix.com/ykashgari#!welcome/c12if

Yasir I. Kashgari  18:28, 7 August 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ykashgari (talkcontribs)  
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: @Ykashgari:, can you prove that the logo is your design? In that case, you should send proof per e-mail to WP:OTRS
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. Copyvio from vision2030.gov.sa. Woodroar (talk) 00:34, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg

File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Piotrus (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This image exists on Commons c:File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg, where it's claimed it's author died in 1940. If correct this would render the local do not move to commons rationale invalid. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

The template was added in 2007 by User:Jarekt: [1]. Back then it might have been valid, 10 years later it seems like the usual case of those templates not being dated and creating problems now... waste of our time due to copyright paranoia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Piotrus and ShakespeareFan00: My edit 10 years ago was to add a license template. I find it weird that the license template comes with a message not to copy the file to Commons unless you know the copyright status of the image. That is true for all license templates. The license situation on Commons is a bit shaky as there is no proof that the photographer died before 1940 as stated by the license. I have seen images deleted for smaller issues. --Jarekt (talk) 14:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:FrancAbulnar.png

File:FrancAbulnar.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Linhart (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:FrancAbulnar.png Magog the Ogre (t c) 17:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:PetaMukimSegamat.jpg

File:PetaMukimSegamat.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hezery99 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:PetaMukimSegamat.jpg Magog the Ogre (t c) 17:54, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Koffee-Kup-Kafe-Hico-TX.jpg

File:Koffee-Kup-Kafe-Hico-TX.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Loadmaster (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Koffee-Kup-Kafe-Hico-TX.jpg Magog the Ogre (t c) 17:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

August 20

File:Suchitra Murali.jpg

File:Suchitra Murali.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TopCrit (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image of living person. The linked disclaimer does not appear to meet criteria for a free image. Ravensfire (talk) 01:27, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Careeba Company Logo.png

File:Careeba Company Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Joshmawatts (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused, no foreseeable use FASTILY 05:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Laurence Foley.jpg

File:Laurence Foley.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PBP (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

missing verifiable source FASTILY 05:29, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:SFMidOhio2323.JPG

File:SFMidOhio2323.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ted7rns (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused, out of focus, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 05:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Fukuryu Diving Suit US Navy Drawing Backside.jpg

File:Fukuryu Diving Suit US Navy Drawing Backside.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lucky For You (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

missing verifiable source FASTILY 05:31, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Maria Belakhova.jpeg

File:Maria Belakhova.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dmitrybelakhov (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

historical image, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 06:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

August 21

File:Inderjit moorthy.jpg

File:Inderjit moorthy.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Timmyonguitar (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 03:18, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins No Jacket Required 2016 cover.jpeg

File:Phil Collins No Jacket Required 2016 cover.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. —IB [ Poke ] 11:44, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins Hello, I Must Be Going! 2016 cover.jpg

File:Phil Collins Hello, I Must Be Going! 2016 cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. Already discussed through previous deletion nomination for similar other articles here. —IB [ Poke ] 11:47, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins Face Value 2016 cover.png

File:Phil Collins Face Value 2016 cover.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. Already discussed through previous deletion nomination for similar other articles here. —IB [ Poke ] 11:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins Both Sides 2016 cover.jpg

File:Phil Collins Both Sides 2016 cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. Already discussed through previous deletion nomination for similar other articles here. —IB [ Poke ] 11:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins Dance into the Light 2016 cover.jpg

File:Phil Collins Dance into the Light 2016 cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. Already discussed through previous deletion nomination for similar other articles here. —IB [ Poke ] 11:49, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Phil Collins Testify 2016 cover.jpeg

File:Phil Collins Testify 2016 cover.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhilipB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A similar image already exists in the article without no significant difference, thereby failing WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, being easily replaceable by words alone. Already discussed through previous deletion nomination for similar other articles here. —IB [ Poke ] 11:49, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Imagechess.jpg

File:Imagechess.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by IQ125 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

IQ125 uploaded a Chess.com logo to Commons and to Wikipedia before (Commons DR, Wikipedia file). They were both deleted for licensing reasons. I noticed this via a section at the Chess.com talk page. Since it was straightforward re: NFCC for use in that article, I reuploaded it with a fair use claim at File:Chess.com logo.jpg. IQ125 replaced that fair use claim with {{PD-textlogo}} and some other content. I reverted given the history of deletion and because I don't want a questionable-at-best copyright tag on a file I uploaded. After starting to edit war, I left a message about edit warring/copyright. The message was blanked as usual and IQ125 uploaded this exact copy in order to tag it with his/her preferred tag. This is pretty straightforward disruptive editing in addition to being a clear deletion. To be clear, however, I am basing my judgment of the pd claim on past deletions and that the logo might meet a threshold for creativity beyond words/generic shapes. I'm not certain of that, and that's part of why I'm bringing it here (it seems this is about the only venue to solicit such opinions these days). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:41, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Keep: User: Rhododendrites is using the incorrect licensing. I corrected the licensing and he began reverting it and edit warring. I reloaded the image with the correct licensing. IQ125 (talk) 14:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete: Duplicate of File:Chess.com logo.jpg. If Commons did not accept this and since the website appears to have originated within the US, there's no point in trying to license this as {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} and the file does not seem old enough for {{PD-US-no notice}}. The new file seems to have been uploaded as PD simply because the uploader wants to use it in a userbox, which is not allowed under WP:NFCCP. The uploader seems to disagree in a WP:NOBODYCOMPLAINED type of way with the Commons DR based upon c:User talk:Natuur12#Deletion, but Commons issues need to be resolved on Commons and c:COM:DRV may be an option. You shouldn't just essentially upload the same file again locally under a different name and under a PD license just because you want to use it in a particular way on Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
    • I asked Natuur12, the admin who deleted the file from Commons, about this and it appears the Commons file was deleted because it was licensed as c:Template:cc-by-sa-3.0; this is very different license from {{PD-logo}}. So, I've asked for opinions as to whether Commons will accept either Wikipedia file as c:Template:PD-textlogo. A non-free version is not needed per WP:NFCC#1 if Commons can accept this as PD, and I will change my !vote to "keep": otherwise, we should treat the file as non-free. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:55, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Coyote Regions Comic poster.png

File:Coyote Regions Comic poster.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CreativeNia (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fancruft for an apparently non-notable web comic or some sort of similar thing. Unused. Outside scope of the encyclopedia. TimothyJosephWood 17:14, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:TREEPLANTING1.jpeg

File:TREEPLANTING1.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SELVARAJPK (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Studio watermark - WP:OTRS permission needed – Train2104 (t • c) 18:25, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Regina Hall.png

File:Regina Hall.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PanagiotisZois (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

License conflict - YT video description says copyrighted, yet CC-BY is the YouTube license chosen. – Train2104 (t • c) 18:33, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Ahmed White.jpg

File:Ahmed White.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kouklatess (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Smaller versions exist in many places online, unlikely own work. – Train2104 (t • c) 18:37, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Ceet wikipedia.jpg

File:Ceet wikipedia.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SylvainNoel (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Part of a montage at [2], with watermark. Unclear own work. – Train2104 (t • c) 18:38, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Ellie portrait.jpg

File:Ellie portrait.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Georgewarre (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Official/publicity photograph - unlikely own work. (note - {{Multilicense replacing placeholder new}} was a wrapper of {{self}}, hence me deciding not to F4 this. See also Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#MediaWiki:Licenses.2Fen-placeholder) – Train2104 (t • c) 18:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Note: I have taken the liberty of replacing {{Multilicense replacing placeholder new}} with its last content (without the TFD tag). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Queen Himiko.jpg

File:Queen Himiko.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Romulan Ale (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

If No earlier portraits are known to exist, then this can't be an accurate image of a person who died over 2000 years ago. Anyone else could make a different picture of the same person, and that picture would be equally accurate. Therefore, this image fails WP:NFCC#1. Stefan2 (talk) 20:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Pure Logo 2017.png

File:Pure Logo 2017.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AllOriginalBubs (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The media is duplicated at Commons, and a recent DR deemed it to be PD-textlogo. I am therefore querying why the local copy needs to be retained (as non-free). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I checked the duplicate, but don't see how it could qualify as public domain. It is a brand logo, after all. I'm in favor of removing a duplicate, but please ensure the license is correct if you remove the nominated image. --AllOriginalBubs (talk) 18:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

August 22

File:Zigong People's Park Zoo.jpg

File:Zigong People's Park Zoo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SlimVirgin (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused locally, already transferred to Commons, no reason to retain local copy; Wikipedia is not an image repository FASTILY 00:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

August 23

File:Sample Bubble Map.png

File:Sample Bubble Map.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Technodudes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Flickr license laundering. Published on https://www.slideshare.net/metatechnology/footfallcam-analysis in April 2017, and marked as "All rights reserved". No evidence it is in the public domain. -- DAJF (talk) 03:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

To DAJF, please review the page again. It clearly says "CC Attribution-ShareAlike License" on Slideshare. Please do not wrongly accuse me. I am only simply trying to improve the page and making it better. Technodudes (talk) 05:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Kanye West and Henri Alexander.jpg

File:Kanye West and Henri Alexander.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Orchestron (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Presence of this non-free image does not significantly enhance the reader's understanding of this article. – Train2104 (t • c) 13:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Arielle Tepper Madover Headshot S Elgort.jpg

File:Arielle Tepper Madover Headshot S Elgort.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Theaterlover89 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is attributed to SOPHIE ELGORT Photographer. Uploader is asserting they are the copyright holder. WP:OTRS confirmaton would be needed. Whpq (talk) 15:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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