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Welcome to the Education Program Incidents page.

This page is for reporting and discussing specific incidents related to student editing and/or the Education Program on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of experienced editors and/or administrators.

Topics may include:

  • Content issues created by real or potential student assignments
  • Unresponsive classrooms or those editing with poorly managed or structured courses
  • Classrooms editing without a course page or with an ambiguous page
  • And any other issue that might relate to student assignments

Of course, we should remain civil towards all participants and assume good faith.

  • Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page.
  • You should generally notify any user who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{ping}} to do so, or simply link their username when you post your comment. It is not required to contact students when their edits are only being discussed in the context of a class-wide problem.
  • Please include diffs to help us find the problem you are reporting.
  • Please sign all contributions, using four tilde characters "~~~~".
  • Threads are automatically archived after 7 days of inactivity.

Where possible and relevant, please include the following information with any report: Article(s), Course, Instructor, Online volunteers, and Student.

See also
  • Special:Courses (a list of courses using the Education Program extension)

Student projects at ANI

See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#College_project_that.27s_introducing_copyvios.2C_plagiarism.2C_OR_and_Non-NPOV_content_to_wide_variety_of_Indian_history_articles. PamD 12:40, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Unregistered class project / account sharing

During my usual vandalism patrol beat i happened to chance upon this edit by a new user. The edit mentions the account is shared between multiple editors which on its own is a clear problem, but due to the mention of a school project this also suggests that there may be multiple other problematic accounts. So far I have taken no action on the assumption that someone more involved in the education project would be better suited to follow this one up. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 19:34, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Excirial: Thanks for the heads up. This is not a course we're aware of, but based on the information on the userpage, I've narrowed the class down to a couple different instructors. I'll see if we can reach out to them to bring them on board. I'll also leave a brief message on the students' page. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:48, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for following this one up Ryan. The explanation at the students talk page is certainly more helpful and to-the-point than any message I would have left myself. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 20:12, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
@Excirial: FYI my colleague, Samantha, got in touch with the instructor. This term's assignment is just about finished, but he plans to work with Wiki Ed next time around. Samantha explained to him that the draft of the swimming in Canada article probably isn't fit for mainspace due to insufficient sourcing, and that he should pass the message on to the student before they try to move it out of the sandbox. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Cross post - Issue with the "The Wiki Ed welcome mat"

Editors may be interested in this ANI thread. I'd also urge editors to flick through the relevant user talk page and answer any outstanding queries -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 14:58, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Chemistry class maybe

User:Edgar181 has identified what is probably a class working on a set of articles about chemicals:


No clear indication of if they have a teacher, but scandavianish names, timing, and common interest make it look like a class. They don't know what they are doing. -- Jytdog (talk) 00:34, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I did a cursory check on the account names that appear to be real names and as far as i can determine these are Dutch names. The check also correlated several editors as being educated at the Radboud University Nijmegen in various chemistry related topics (Biochemistry, Molecular life sciences and Biotechnology for example). Based on what i can see I'd say this is extremely likely to be a class or group project. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 01:26, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
The contributions are not very good but not 100% garbage. Maybe 80%. They must be graded by the length of the contribution. Apparently unsupervised. It is probably not worth our efforts to do much until the class is over. --Smokefoot (talk) 18:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I posted here hoping folks at the education project would reach out and find the instructor and get this class pulled into the program and reined in. We all have a lot of work to do and cleaning up after a class is not one of my favorite things.Jytdog (talk) 19:13, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Each new time this sort of thing happens, my patience wears out a bit more, as does my sympathy for WP:BITE. Editors should feel free to revert. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:44, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
  • one of the students has replied to me here. Contact information for the instructor is there. Jytdog (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi all. Institutions in the Netherlands are part of the Global Education Program. Let's ping TFlanagan-WMF to see if he can connect with this instructor. The country-based resources at outreach:Education/Countries can be useful. There is a page for the Netherlands, for example, with a few contacts that may be able to help. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 11:57, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
  • I pinged two contacts over email (Arne and Romaine) at Wikimedia Nederland, hope that helps. TFlanagan-WMF (talk) 13:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I am responsible for the Dutch education program. We haven't cooperated with this university before, and I wasn't aware that they were doing anything on Wikipedia. I will reach out to the teacher of this class to try and find out more. Best, --AWossink (talk) 18:17, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
  • note, one of the users that was listed above left me a message that they are not part of the class, here, so i removed their name and the article from the list above Jytdog (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Questionable Article on Free Store

User:Asavoie has created an article on Free Store (in Ottawa). I and some other editors consider it to be non-notable, and it has been nominated for deletion. However, see: This appears to be a class assignment that is asking students to add non-notable fluff to Wikipedia, a questionable educational assignment. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

It looks to me like the AfD is being handled as it should be, and no consideration at AfD should be given to student editors that would not also be given to any other editor. It would be best to ask the student to ask the instructor to register an account, and to get the class coordinated with the WikiEd staff. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon and Tryptofish: Given the timing and subject of the edits, I'm inclined to think this is the same class as above. We've reached out to the instructor and offered some advice, and hopefully they will follow-up and work with us in the future, but since the assignment is over today (again, assuming it's the same class) it's unclear whether we'll see much more engagement on-wiki. As you say, students should indeed receive no more or less consideration for being students. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 02:47, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
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