Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure

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The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications.

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Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 23 June 2017); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed early. However, editors usually wait at least a week after an RfC opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

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If consensus is unclear, then post a neutral request here for assistance.

Please ensure that your request for a close is brief and neutrally worded. Please include a link to the discussion. Do not use this board to continue the discussion in question. Be prepared to wait for someone to review the discussion. If you disagree with a particular closure, do not dispute it here. You can start discussion at the original page or request a Closure review at Administrators' noticeboard with a link to the discussion page and the policy-based reason you believe the closure should be overturned. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.

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Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have.

A request for comment discussed how to appeal closures and whether an administrator can summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for details.

Once a discussion listed on this page has been closed, please add {{Close}} or {{Done}} and a note to the request here, after which the request will be archived.

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Requests for closure

Administrative discussions

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive956#Military college dispute getting out of hand

Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive956#Military college dispute getting out of hand (Initiated 41 days ago on 12 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

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RfCs

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/RfC: Wikimedia referrer policy

Needs uninvolved closer please. Thanks. (Initiated 52 days ago on 1 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Teamwork closure is requested by the RfC proposer Guy Macon at "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Closers needed for a very sensitive RfC." Therefore, I shall abide to request for teamwork and wait for two or three closers interested. --George Ho (talk) 12:16, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

While a team of closers were found (in the afore-linked thread), current plans are to relist it.So deferred for 30 days(ideally)!Winged Blades Godric 18:13, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, the discussion was moved from Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) to Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/RfC: Wikimedia referrer policy, so I changed the link in the header. --George Ho (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Bahá'í Faith#Request for Comment: Lead Section

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bahá'í Faith#Request for Comment: Lead Section (Initiated 67 days ago on 17 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#RfC: Should the article include events related to Trump's tweets that the Obama administration has wiretapped him?

Could somebody kindly assess consensus at Talk:Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#RfC: Should the article include events related to Trump's tweets that the Obama administration has wiretapped him? Early close requested because discussion has ceased for a while and the debated issue is kind of moot. (Initiated 57 days ago on 27 May 2017)JFG talk 05:23, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Ethereum#RFC on lede paragraph

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ethereum#RFC on lede paragraph (Initiated 63 days ago on 21 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Vladimir Lenin#RfC regarding the parallel drawn between the cult of personality of Lenin, and that of George Washington

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Vladimir Lenin#RfC regarding the parallel drawn between the cult of personality of Lenin, and that of George Washington (Initiated 58 days ago on 26 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:White Helmets (Syrian Civil War)#RfC: Disposing a body

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:White Helmets (Syrian Civil War)#RfC: Disposing a body (Initiated 57 days ago on 27 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:McMahon–Hussein Correspondence#RfC

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:McMahon–Hussein Correspondence#RfC (Initiated 53 days ago on 31 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:2017#2017 cyberattacks on Ukraine

An uninvolved closer is needed please. Thanks. (Initiated 22 days ago on 1 July 2017) --George Ho (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:2017#WHO's estimate of Cholera outbreak in Yemen

An uninvolved closer is needed please. Thanks. (Initiated 22 days ago on 1 July 2017) --George Ho (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:2017#Destruction of the Great Mosque of al-Nuri (Mosul)

An uninvolved closer is needed please. Thanks. (Initiated 22 days ago on 1 July 2017) --George Ho (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:2017#[Ready] Prodigy

An uninvolved closer is needed please. Thanks. (Initiated 26 days ago on 27 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Middlebury, Connecticut#RfC about pushpin map in infobox

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Middlebury, Connecticut#RfC about pushpin map in infobox (Initiated 46 days ago on 7 June 2017)? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:53, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Monarchy of Canada#RFC on inclusion of Peter Boyce quotation

A bot has just removed the RFC template as "expired" (see [1]) but no Admin has weighed in to make a determination on whether there or not there's consensus for the proposal. I'm wondering if an uninvolved admin can take a look and make a determination? (Initiated 39 days ago on 14 June 2017) Hungarian Phrasebook (talk) 04:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence

A solo closure by an uninvolved editor may suffice. Nevertheless, I welcome a joint closure performed by two. (Initiated 34 days ago on 19 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Should Wikibooks pages be displayed in search results

The request is a little early, but this should not imply early closure, which should be performed by uninvolved editor, also not involved in the previous discussion: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 135#RfC: sister projects in search results. (Initiated 30 days ago on 23 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 10:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Breitbart News#RFC: Where should the statement about misleading sources be?

Discussion went stale; a closure by uninvolved editor is needed please. Thanks. (Initiated 27 days ago on 26 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 08:33, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Charice Pempengco#Jake Zyrus

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Charice Pempengco#Jake Zyrus (Initiated 17 days ago on 6 July 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Isaac Newton in popular culture#RfC - Listing Newton's achievements

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Isaac Newton in popular culture#RfC - Listing Newton's achievements (Initiated 41 days ago on 12 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:George Harrison#RfC

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:George Harrison#RfC (Initiated 35 days ago on 18 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting#RfC: some italicisation questions regarding catalogues, sets, collections and types of creative works

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting#RfC: some italicisation questions regarding catalogues, sets, collections and types of creative works (Initiated 47 days ago on 6 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Hungarians#RfC on Kniezsa's ethnic map from 1938

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hungarians#RfC on Kniezsa's ethnic map from 1938 (Initiated 38 days ago on 15 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Italy#RfC about the photo in the economy section

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Italy#RfC about the photo in the economy section (Initiated 36 days ago on 17 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:30 Rock#RfC: Is it misleading to say that 30 Rock was critically acclaimed "throughout its run"?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:30 Rock#RfC: Is it misleading to say that 30 Rock was critically acclaimed "throughout its run"? (Initiated 44 days ago on 9 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:CeCe Peniston discography#Request for comment

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:CeCe Peniston discography#Request for comment (Initiated 41 days ago on 12 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Women's Equality Party#Proposal to remove 'nonpartisan' from the info box

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Women's Equality Party#Proposal to remove 'nonpartisan' from the info box (Initiated 83 days ago on 1 May 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:2017 Portland train attack#RfC about the title of the article

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2017 Portland train attack#RfC about the title of the article (Initiated 48 days ago on 5 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Islamic terrorism in Europe (2014–present)#RfC on scope

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Islamic terrorism in Europe (2014–present)#RfC on scope (Initiated 48 days ago on 5 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:List of secret police organizations#RfC- Use of Human Rights Groups as sources

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of secret police organizations#RfC- Use of Human Rights Groups as sources (Initiated 37 days ago on 16 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Template talk:Locomotives and rolling stock of the Victorian Railways, predecessors and successors#Reliability of sources in rolling stock articles (social media etc)

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Template talk:Locomotives and rolling stock of the Victorian Railways, predecessors and successors#Reliability of sources in rolling stock articles (social media etc) (Initiated 34 days ago on 19 June 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion discussions

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 14#Category:Television programming by language

(Initiated 159 days ago on 14 February 2017) Stale discussion, no contributions after early April. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 4#America-Freedom to Fascism

(Initiated 92 days ago on 22 April 2017) -- Tavix (talk) 17:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 5#Hinduism redirects

(Initiated 57 days ago on 27 May 2017) -- Tavix (talk) 17:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 7#Staten Island route

(Initiated 82 days ago on 2 May 2017) -- Tavix (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

 Done by Deryck Chan. Thank you for closing the RfD! Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 July 1#Template:Black Power movement

(Initiated 41 days ago on 12 June 2017) Frietjes (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

 Done by Plastikspork. Thank you for closing the TfD! Cunard (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 July 7#File:James Thomas Hodgkinson.png

(Initiated 16 days ago on 7 July 2017) Was sent to a first FFD on 15 June 2017 at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 June 15#File:James Thomas Hodgkinson.png. Closed as delete. Sent to DRV same day of FFD close at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 June 23. Closed as overturn and relisted. Placed for FFD again as linked above. Discussion has died down for 2+ days now. The issues at the core of this discussion require an administrator with significant knowledge in WP:NFCC issues. Regardless of close, if an administrator doesn't get this close right, it's likely to end up at DRV again. The cycle needs to be broken. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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Other types of closing requests

Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections/Archive 9#Dan Goodin wrote... UNDUE discussion/survey close request

(Initiated 75 days ago on 8 May 2017) A long discussion has accompanied a slow-motion revert war over the inclusion of a journalist's cited views, which may be UNDUE. The talk thread is at Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections/Archive 9#Dan Goodin wrote... UNDUE and resumed here Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections/Archive 11#Goodin redux. Could an Admin please review and close these discussions so as to settle whether there is consensus to include the comments of Mr. Goodin in the article? Thank you. SPECIFICO talk 00:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 227#Review of a decision to remove an external link per ELNEVER

Where do we stand on accepting or rejecting bach-cantatas.com as a source for Wikipedia content? (Initiated 43 days ago on 9 June 2017). --Francis Schonken (talk) 16:45, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Quoting number of Google News hits

(Initiated 105 days ago on 9 April 2017) Discussion has faded out on this "No original research" topic - closure by an uninvolved editor would be welcome. Batternut (talk) 12:16, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations#"Quick fails"

There has been a discussion of the wording/content of the good article criteria. It has been open for around two weeks with no edits for four days; closure by an uninvolved editor would be appreciated. 22:04, 16 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J Milburn (talkcontribs)

Just in case: (Initiated 20 days ago on 3 July 2017) --George Ho (talk) 22:07, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2017 June#James Martin Hayes

Needs uninvolved editor to close this. (Initiated 24 days ago on 29 June 2017) --George Ho (talk) 19:58, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposed minor modification regarding G13

Would an uninvolved administrator or editor consider closing this request. (Initiated 39 days ago on 14 June 2017) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Trump campaign–Russian meeting#Merger proposal

This page was a serious battleground, but consensus for keep has been clearly reached and the page stabilized, with most of the participants on both sides of the spectrum actively and productively collaborating to improve it. (Initiated 10 days ago on 12 July 2017). DARTHBOTTO talkcont 23:30, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Requesting whichever admin reviews this to wait until the current deletion review is closed before closing this proposal. Simply for the sake of complete closure on the matter that started with the AfD. WikiVirusC(talk) 23:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:List of porridges#Merge list from Porridge

(Initiated 1353 days ago on 7 November 2013) Requesting closure of this merge discussion by an uninvolved admin or user. North America1000 03:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/The_Fine_Young_Capitalists/1

Can someone close this GAR? -- ForbiddenRocky (talk) 06:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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