Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure

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The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

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Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 19 December 2017); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed early. However, editors usually wait at least a week after an RfC opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

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If consensus is unclear, then post a neutral request here for assistance.

Please ensure that your request for a close is brief and neutrally worded. Please include a link to the discussion. Do not use this board to continue the discussion in question. Be prepared to wait for someone to review the discussion. If you disagree with a particular closure, do not dispute it here. You can start discussion at the original page or request a Closure review at Administrators' noticeboard with a link to the discussion page and the policy-based reason you believe the closure should be overturned. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.

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Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have.

A request for comment discussed how to appeal closures and whether an administrator can summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for details.

Once a discussion listed on this page has been closed, please add {{Close}} or {{Done}} and a note to the request here, after which the request will be archived.

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Requests for closure

Administrative discussions

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RfCs

Talk:Patriot Prayer#Request for comment

(Initiated 67 days ago on 12 November 2017) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at this RFC, thanks Darkness Shines (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

  •  Done. --GRuban (talk) 16:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Carter Page#Request for Comments on House Intelligence Committee Testimony and other sections

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Carter Page#Request for Comments on House Intelligence Committee Testimony and other sections (Initiated 70 days ago on 9 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:One America News Network#RfC about sentence describing coverage instructions of specific subjects by owner Charles Herring in the lead

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:One America News Network#RfC about sentence describing coverage instructions of specific subjects by owner Charles Herring in the lead (Initiated 70 days ago on 9 November 2017)}}? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done Closed as there is no consensus for inclusion of the questioned text in the lead. (non-admin closure) Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:June 2017 Brussels attack#RfC on MILAN SCHREUER and DAN BILEFSKY article in New York Times

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:June 2017 Brussels attack#RfC on MILAN SCHREUER and DAN BILEFSKY article in New York Times (Initiated 73 days ago on 6 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done Closed as the disputed text does not have consensus for inclusion as originally quoted. (non-admin closure) Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Eggishorn just want to point out that putting {{nac}} etc is unecessary for RfCs. Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:29, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
@Galobtter:, while not required (so far as I know), i think it is good practice nonetheless. Thanks. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:54, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#RfC: Should the article include Dan Goodin's criticism of the DHS Joint Analysis Report?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#RfC: Should the article include Dan Goodin's criticism of the DHS Joint Analysis Report? (Initiated 68 days ago on 11 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on naming of Chinese railway line articles

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on naming of Chinese railway line articles (Initiated 68 days ago on 11 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes#RFC

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes#RFC (Initiated 60 days ago on 19 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Energy East#RfC on contents of pipeline

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Energy East#RfC on contents of pipeline (Initiated 51 days ago on 28 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:List of areas of London#RFC Project to cleanup the child pages of this page

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of areas of London#RFC Project to cleanup the child pages of this page (Initiated 58 days ago on 21 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done better to just read the discussion, Huskion just got the feedback he wanted. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Church of Satan#RfC about Church of Satan membership figures

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Church of Satan#RfC about Church of Satan membership figures (Initiated 60 days ago on 19 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Request for comment on achievements and awards boxes

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Request for comment on achievements and awards boxes (Initiated 55 days ago on 24 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#Transit system icons in nav templates

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#Transit system icons in nav templates (Initiated 61 days ago on 18 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 138#RfC: Russian metro line article titles

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 138#RfC: Russian metro line article titles (Initiated 40 days ago on 9 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Comma or parenthetic disambiguation for "small places"

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Comma or parenthetic disambiguation for "small places" (Initiated 56 days ago on 23 November 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Fatima#Request for comment: Fatima or Fatimah

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Fatima#Request for comment: Fatima or Fatimah (Initiated 47 days ago on 2 December 2017)? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:27, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Zoë_Quinn#RfC - infobox image

I'm not entirely sure if this requires a multi-close due to the length of discussion but anyway would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Zoë_Quinn#RfC_-_infobox_image (Initiated 44 days ago on 5 December 2017)? Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:17, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Armenian Genocide#RFC on inclusion of recognition by US States in Lead

(Initiated 11 days ago on 7 January 2018) The Armenian Genocide is a contentious topic and is covered by WP:ARBAA2, so I am requesting an uninvolved editor close this RFC. Billhpike (talk) 01:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Israel#Request for Comment – parenthetical comment on the status of Jerusalem in the infobox for Israel

(Initiated 19 days ago on 30 December 2017) This is a RfC within a broad subject that can often be contentious. Nevertheless, it appears that this RfC has reached a consensus of Wikipedia editors. Would an experienced editor assess the consensus and close this RfC? Thanks. OtterAM (talk) 02:18, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Peter Popoff#RfC over BLP Lead's use of "fraud"

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Peter Popoff#RfC over BLP Lead's use of "fraud" (Initiated 48 days ago on 1 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Benito Mussolini#Infobox image RfC

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Benito Mussolini#Infobox image RfC (Initiated 47 days ago on 2 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Meghan Markle#RfC on Ancestry Section

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Meghan Markle#RfC on Ancestry Section (Initiated 46 days ago on 3 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Josephine Butler#Request for comment on names

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Josephine Butler#Request for comment on names (Initiated 38 days ago on 11 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Bitcoin#Bubble/Ponzi/Illegal

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Bitcoin#Bubble/Ponzi/Illegal (Initiated 46 days ago on 3 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Istvaeonic languages#RFC. Merge? Split? Re-name?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Istvaeonic languages#RFC. Merge? Split? Re-name? (Initiated 41 days ago on 8 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Useful idiot#Request for Comment on Oxford English Dictionary

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Useful idiot#Request for Comment on Oxford English Dictionary (Initiated 39 days ago on 10 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Robert E. Lee#RfC about the use of wp:primary sources and the proposed passage

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Robert E. Lee#RfC about the use of wp:primary sources and the proposed passage (Initiated 37 days ago on 12 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Hair's breadth#Request for comment on prominence of "red cunt hair" in this article

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hair's breadth#Request for comment on prominence of "red cunt hair" in this article (Initiated 45 days ago on 4 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Classical music#The image in the lead

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Classical music#The image in the lead (Initiated 40 days ago on 9 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:National Rifle Association#RfC on advocacy for black gun owners

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:National Rifle Association#RfC on advocacy for black gun owners (Initiated 43 days ago on 6 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Jerusalem#RFC on Jerusalem and US recognition

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Jerusalem#RFC on Jerusalem and US recognition (Initiated 43 days ago on 6 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:United States recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital#RfC for 130 Jewish studies scholars

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:United States recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital#RfC for 130 Jewish studies scholars (Initiated 35 days ago on 14 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Be bold#Policy update proposal

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Be bold#Policy update proposal (Initiated 41 days ago on 8 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RFC on forming possessive form of singular names, MOS advice simplification

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RFC on forming possessive form of singular names, MOS advice simplification (Initiated 37 days ago on 12 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Populating article descriptions magic word

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Populating article descriptions magic word (Initiated 41 days ago on 8 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Categorizing redirects#Request for comments on MoS shortcut redirect categorization

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Categorizing redirects#Request for comments on MoS shortcut redirect categorization (Initiated 35 days ago on 14 December 2017)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#RFC_about_album_years_in_navigation_templates

(Initiated 10 days ago on 8 January 2018) Please assess the consensus and close Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#RFC_about_album_years_in_navigation_templates. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:42, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Administrators#RfC_about_paid_use_of_administrator_tools

(Initiated 29 days ago on 20 December 2017) Could someone please assess the consensus in the RfC at Wikipedia_talk:Administrators#RfC_about_paid_use_of_administrator_tools when it hits 30 days. TonyBallioni (talk) 11:43, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Cary Grant#RFC on Inclusion of Infobox

(Initiated 31 days ago on 18 December 2017) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Cary Grant#RFC on Inclusion of Infobox? Thanks, jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:50, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Should Wikipedia have and maintain complete lists of airline destinations?

(Initiated 17 days ago on 1 January 2018) The topic of discussion is a largely populated category, so if all of the articles in it are going to be taken to AfD it will take additional time. I suppose the articles could also be speedy deleted but will let an admin use their judgement here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#RFC_for_Wikipedia_Is_Not_a_Laboratory_Version_2

(Initiated 48 days ago on 1 December 2017) Will an uninvolved editor please close this discussion. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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Deletion discussions

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 January 16#Template:Wikidata icon

(Initiated 2 days ago on 16 January 2018) "Procedural close" suggested at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 January 16#Template:Wikidata icon. Batternut (talk)

Not done No reason to close something that was opened yesterday. Nihlus 14:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
procedural/it'd be better to discuss later closes are a thing.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:56, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm aware, and this is not a case for it. Nihlus 14:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hmm..This definitely does not qualify for a speedy close by any margin of discretion.And, as a rule of thumb, Wikidata-related things usually never qualifies!:)Winged BladesGodric 16:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Mostly that there's also an RfC going on and so it is somewhat redundant. I know it is controversial.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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Other types of closing requests

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One#Proposal to re-simplify the constructors' standings tables.

(Initiated 97 days ago on 13 October 2017) Could an experienced editor or administrator please assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One#Proposal to re-simplify the constructors' standings tables. Thanks, Tvx1 17:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Is anyone going to take a look a this?Tvx1 16:26, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Tvx1 If you feel the consensus is for the change (or is obvious), there doesn't have to be a formal closure; you can just do the change. Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
I prefer a formal close. I see a broad consensus, but since I proposed the change in the first place it would be a rather inappropriate if I’d claim a consenus in favor of it.Tvx1 22:01, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard/Archive 20#Carleton Knights football

(Initiated 71 days ago on 8 November 2017) Should the following archival documentary be included as an external link at Carleton Knights football? "Carleton Football Highlights". Carleton College Archives. 1992.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnnlaxer (talkcontribs) 15:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017#Objections to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017

(Initiated 29 days ago on 20 December 2017) Please disposition Talk:Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017#Objections to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:35, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean by "disposition"? Makes no sense to me. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Reply - @Redrose64:, please assess the consensus and close. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:2017–18 North American winter#Proposed merge with 2017–18 North American cold wave

(Initiated 16 days ago on 2 January 2018) Please assess the consensus and close Talk:2017–18 North American winter#Proposed merge with 2017–18 North American cold wave. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:12, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Is a government agency a RS for statements attributed to the agency?

(Initiated 7 days ago on 11 January 2018) This is a RS inquiry that has only been open 24 hours, so I hesitate to come here, but I think is pretty cut and dry (plus, in 3 more days it will have cycled into the archives so there doesn't seem to be a benefit in waiting a full month as with a RfC). Could an experienced editor review it to determine if there is or is not a consensus that a government agency's own website is a reliable source for quotes directly attributed to that agency? Thanks, in advance. Chetsford (talk) 22:41, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I object to this request for closure. More input is needed to gain a fair consensus from the community. 24 hours only? No. It does not seem so cut and dry based on the few responses so far. As they say, Wikipedia has no deadline. What is the rush? Lacypaperclip (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. It does get auto-archived in three days, though, so - given the backlog - by the time someone gets around to this it probably will have received all the feedback it's likely to receive. And, since this is really quite a minor point (should a reliability tag appear at the end of one sentence in a single article) it might not necessarily be a good expenditure of energy to drag this out for too long? Chetsford (talk) 23:19, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:List of Byzantine emperors#Merger proposal

(Initiated 105 days ago on 5 October 2017) Would an experienced editor assess whether there is a consensus and this proposal can be closed? Thanks! —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 10:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Memoirs_of_a_Murderer_(album)#Requested_move_6_January_2018

(Initiated 12 days ago on 6 January 2018) Please assess the consensus and close Talk:Memoirs_of_a_Murderer_(album)#Requested_move_6_January_2018. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:35, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done kinda, no reason to put this here as it will get closed within a reasonable time as it is listed at WP:RM; relisted by TonyBallioni 2 days ago. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Reply - Not done yet, please leave this notice in place until the discussion is resolved. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2018_January_4#Wu_Yongning

(Initiated 14 days ago on 4 January 2018) Please assess the consensus and close Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2018 January 4#Wu Yongning. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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