Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure

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The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

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Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 20 July 2018); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed early. However, editors usually wait at least a week after an RfC opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

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If consensus is unclear, then post a neutral request here for assistance.

Please ensure that your request for a close is brief and neutrally worded. Please include a link to the discussion. Do not use this board to continue the discussion in question. Be prepared to wait for someone to review the discussion. If you disagree with a particular closure, do not dispute it here. You can start discussion at the original page or request a Closure review at Administrators' noticeboard with a link to the discussion page and the policy-based reason you believe the closure should be overturned. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.

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Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have.

A request for comment discussed how to appeal closures and whether an administrator can summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for details.

Once a discussion listed on this page has been closed, please add {{Close}} or {{Done}} and a note to the request here, after which the request will be archived.

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Requests for closure

Administrative discussions

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Willschmut#10 August 2018

(Initiated 8 days ago on 10 August 2018) Close the SPI. It's been open for more than a week without any progress, and has been allowing users to violate WP:PA (in reverting my and others' edits) with impunity. Mithrandir the Grey (talk) 10:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Either block me, or not. Or at least explain why it's taking so long. If no admin responds within the next 24 hours, I'll close the SPI myself. It's time to put a stop to this indefinite waiting period. Mithrandir the Grey (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Place new administrative discussions above this line

RfCs

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums#RFC - Infoboxes and Third Parties BEFORE an election

(Initiated 158 days ago on 14 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums#RFC - Infoboxes and Third Parties BEFORE an election? There is a related discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Candidates in Infoboxes on upcoming election articles. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:44, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Steve Down#Request for Comment on Consensus for SEC Charges May 2018

(Initiated 87 days ago on 24 May 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Steve Down#Request for Comment on Consensus for SEC Charges May 2018? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Marketing of electronic cigarettes#RfC about evaluating the accuracy of marketing claims

(Initiated 77 days ago on 2 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Marketing of electronic cigarettes#RfC about evaluating the accuracy of marketing claims? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Could I request an independent assessment of consensus (es) at this RfC, please? HLHJ (talk) 22:41, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't see that it had been nommed already. Thanks to Redrose64 for the merge, and Cunard for nominating it. HLHJ (talk) 23:23, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#RfC on figures presented by Courtois in the Black Book introduction

(Initiated 75 days ago on 5 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#RfC on figures presented by Courtois in the Black Book introduction? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Archived. -The Gnome (talk) 09:12, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:President of the United States#Merger of Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces

(Initiated 70 days ago on 9 June 2018) Talk has winded down. Would an uninvolved editor please determine consensus? Thank you. Garuda28 (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#Request for comment on neutrality and recentism tags

(Initiated 67 days ago on 13 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#Request for comment on neutrality and recentism tags? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#RfC: Should we remove the "85 and 100 million" number from the lead?

(Initiated 66 days ago on 14 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#RfC: Should we remove the "85 and 100 million" number from the lead?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Placebo#RfC on

(Initiated 64 days ago on 16 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Placebo#RfC on? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:March 1947 martial law in Mandatory Palestine#RFC

(Initiated 63 days ago on 17 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:March 1947 martial law in Mandatory Palestine#RFC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:2018 in heavy metal music#RFC: Album inclusion in "year in genre" articles

(Initiated 61 days ago on 19 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2018 in heavy metal music#RFC: Album inclusion in "year in genre" articles? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Żegota#RfC on Żegota funding

(Initiated 60 days ago on 20 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Żegota#RfC on Żegota funding? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Swiss sovereign-money initiative, 2018#Request for comments on the inclusion of historical context

(Initiated 57 days ago on 23 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Swiss sovereign-money initiative, 2018#Request for comments on the inclusion of historical context? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Presidency of Donald Trump#RfC: Public health analysis by Harvard scholars

(Initiated 56 days ago on 24 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Presidency of Donald Trump#RfC: Public health analysis by Harvard scholars? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#RfC: INTDAB links to non-dab pages

(Initiated 54 days ago on 26 June 2018) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please close the lengthy RfC at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#RfC: INTDAB links to non-dab pages. Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Should WP:TWL be allowed to acknowledge the services they have partnership with in our articles?

(Initiated 52 days ago on 28 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Should WP:TWL be allowed to acknowledge the services they have partnership with in our articles?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster#RfC about the infobox image

(Initiated 51 days ago on 29 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster#RfC about the infobox image? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn#RfC on the ethnicity of Yusuf al-Kawneyn

(Initiated 51 days ago on 29 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn#RfC on the ethnicity of Yusuf al-Kawneyn? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done Vanamonde (talk) 06:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:California Proposition 187#RfC: "Illegal aliens" vs. a synonym

(Initiated 49 days ago on 1 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:California Proposition 187#RfC: "Illegal aliens" vs. a synonym? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:Village pump (proposals)#Bot to deliver Template:Ds/alert

(Initiated 47 days ago on 2 July 2018) Comments have stopped coming in for a while, though it won't hurt to let this hit the full 30 days. It would be very helpful if this were carefully assessed. It is not a proposal to actually implement a particular bot, but an advisory RfC to ArbCom on what such a bot might do (and not do, and why), and what issues with current WP:AC/DS practice are inspiring the desire for such automation in the first place. ArbCom has promised to take the RfC under careful consideration as community feedback. Actually, one closing option would be to simply close it without an admin analysis, instead explicitly reserving that assessment to ArbCom.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:20, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:No original research#Rfc on How we interpret "published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article"

(Initiated 46 days ago on 4 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:No original research#Rfc on How we interpret "published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article"? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Adolf Hitler#RFC

(Initiated 45 days ago on 5 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Adolf Hitler#RFC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)  Done Vanamonde (talk) 10:05, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:United States presidential election, 2020#RFC on article contents

(Initiated 45 days ago on 5 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:United States presidential election, 2020#RFC on article contents? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Revisiting the perennial US/U.S. debate

(Initiated 44 days ago on 6 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Revisiting the perennial US/U.S. debate? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Khalistan movement#RFC on Resurgence/Activity of the Khalistan Movement

(Initiated 43 days ago on 7 July 2018) Could an uninvolved admin close this discussion? New comments have dried up on this RFC. Last comment was at 11:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC). --DBigXray 09:15, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:British Jews#RfC "'Central Orthodox Judaism'=Modern Orthodox Judaism? - To Wikilink or not?"

(Initiated 42 days ago on 8 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:British Jews#RfC "'Central Orthodox Judaism'=Modern Orthodox Judaism? - To Wikilink or not?"? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#RfC on use of Spanish regional identity in biography leads

(Initiated 39 days ago on 10 July 2018) This RfC has been running for more than a month and has attracted a lot of discussion but difficult to determine if there's consensus or not. Could someone experienced in this have a look?--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:53, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Following disputes across several articles and an RfC on one article, this RfC was initiated to establish broader guidance across the topic area. There is considerable debate in the RfC, and a patient uninvolved editor is needed to assess the strengths of argument and provide a usable summary to conclude the RfC. Thanks in advance. --RexxS (talk) 20:52, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Microaggression#Request for comment on bias, especially in the second paragraph

(Initiated 39 days ago on 11 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Microaggression#Request for comment on bias, especially in the second paragraph? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Blond#Request for comment on the lead image

(Initiated 38 days ago on 11 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Blond#Request for comment on the lead image? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comments: Should the automatic taxobox system be the current recommended practice?

(Initiated 38 days ago on 12 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comments: Should the automatic taxobox system be the current recommended practice?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:List of military occupations#RFC: Should East Jerusalem and Gaza be moved from Current military occupations for the sake of consistency?

(Initiated 36 days ago on 14 July 2018) Requesting an experienced and uninvolved editor or admin to assess the consensus at Talk:List_of_military_occupations#RFC:_Should_East_Jerusalem_and_Gaza_be_moved_from_Current_military_occupations_for_the_sake_of_consistency?. Thanks-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 07:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the lead include a sentence about Trump's racial stance?

(Initiated 34 days ago on 15 July 2018) Could an uninvolved admin kindly assess consensus there? — JFG talk 17:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the summary of Trump's false and controversial statements be updated in the lead?

(Initiated 34 days ago on 15 July 2018) Could an uninvolved admin kindly assess consensus there? — JFG talk 17:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Political views of American academics#RfC on inclusion of HERI data chart

(Initiated 33 days ago on 16 July 2018) Would an experienced and strictly uninvolved editor or administrator please assess the consensus at Talk:Political views of American academics#RfC on inclusion of HERI data chart? Thanks, --Tryptofish (talk) 23:22, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)#George Cross Disambiguation

(Initiated 24 days ago on 25 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)#George Cross Disambiguation? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Elon_Musk#Request_for_comment:_Tham_Luang_cave_rescue/namecalling

(Initiated 19 days ago on 30 July 2018) Would an uninvolved and experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Elon_Musk#Request_for_comment:_Tham_Luang_cave_rescue/namecalling to avoid any edit wars when the protection is peeled back? Thanks! TOMÁSTOMÁSTOMÁSTALK⠀ 15:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line

Deletion discussions

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/KSI_vs_Logan_Paul

(Initiated 27 days ago on 22 July 2018) May an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus? Abequinn14 (talk) 21:25, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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Other types of closing requests

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 26#Merge in MOS:PN

(Initiated 327 days ago on 26 September 2017) There is a discussion to merge a MoS page into another page last year but nothing has taken place. The editor whose username is Z0 13:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

It's on my to-do list. Virtually on one else does MoS merges these days (probably because they don't have the asbestos armor that I do). I dealt with all the other out-standing MOS:BIO merges first, and have let that settle out over the last month. The MOS:PN one is a split-and-merge; it'll be a more complicated section-by-section job, since parts of it are about human names, others about titles of works, other about geography, etc.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  10:47, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#How to/should we add a Wikidata item link to Authority control

(Initiated 74 days ago on 5 June 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#How to/should we add a Wikidata item link to Authority control? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Now archived, at here Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:13, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Proposal to draftify UDP-tagged articles

(Initiated 36 days ago on 14 July 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Proposal to draftify UDP-tagged articles? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Ezra Pound#Proposal

(Initiated 25 days ago on 24 July 2018) This article recently had a discretionary sanction applied, after an Arb Enforcement submission, as pertains to the use and discussion of infoboxes. Specifically, when the above discussion is closed, there is a restriction on discussion for one year. The proposal started at the time above, and the last new !vote was on July 30. The AE submission did not attract much or any new discussion to this page/section. Outriggr (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Bitcoin Cash#Mentions of China given undue weight

(Initiated 18 days ago on 1 August 2018) Could an uninvolved editor close the discussion, please? Thanks in advance. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 05:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Why? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Sarah_Jeong#Proposal:_deletion_of_"conservative"_media

(Initiated 13 days ago on 6 August 2018) May an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus at that talk page section? Thanks, Abequinn14 (talk) 20:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Sarah_Jeong#Proposal: add sentence for The Verge and other journalists

(Initiated 13 days ago on 6 August 2018) Would an uninvolved admin please assess the consensus for the two proposals listed here? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:36, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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