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seperate template for neigbourhood

I've created a seperate template for neighbourhoods and suburbs, so I'm removing that part from this template. --Thalapathi (Ping Back) 09:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Some of the details are irrelevant

There is general mention about carnatic music, jallikattu, jem cutting. What does cigar got to do with the culture - it is just an industry. Pragyan and Festember are NIT specific - festember at least has 5k visitors, but not relevant too.

Railway stations - dont know on what basis this is done. If thiruverumbur is taken as limit, we have stations before it.

Geography - leaving geography of TN, all others are irrelevant.

Industries, villages etc would be of much relevance. Can this template be done away with as we have a district one S Sriram 22:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt

Templates are essential for cities, else there won't be templates for Chennai or other cities, right. Trichinopoly cigar does fit in; in British times, Trichy was known for its cigars and is an integral part of its culture. Even today, many Englishmen identify Trichinopoly with its cigars. The limit of the urban agglomeration as per the 2011 census has been taken into consideration for the list of railway stations. True, Pragyan and Festember are NIT-specific, but students from many colleges across the region participate in it and there is detailed coverage of the annual event in the regional editions of newspapers and journals like The Hindu. As for your "opinion" on whether "Geography of Tiruchirappalli" is relevant, thanks a lot for expressing your opinion. Can you please explain why it is irrelevant? Villages are completely relevant. There are scarcely any village panchayats within Trichy UA limits.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 13:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Templates are required - agreed, but what is boundary you give for Trichy - corporation, district? Most of the details with district page and here are the same. I assume you have taken a corporation limit. Now ponder these points:
  1. Grand anaicut and upper anaicut are 17 and 22km from trichy main land - dont they fall in district ambit?
  2. Neighbourhood and suburb - refer this http://tnmaps.tn.nic.in/ - ideally suburb may not be applicable for Trichy. Chennai being a larger city has suburb classification. Most of the places like annanagar, thillainagar, cantonment , bhemmanagar etc are areas and definitely not suburbs. Some of the entries like Kambarasampettai, tharanallur, vayalur are villages. A renaming or reclassification to villages and something like 'areas in' would be better.
  3. Railway station - tiruverambur cannot come in UA or corporation limits as it is 15kms away from trichy(trichy is 14.6 sq km). Manjathidal is one station much before tiruvembur line itself!!

This can again be split into road, rail and air.

  1. temples - best to have in and around. Samayapuram, vayalur, uttamar kovil, erubeswarar are totally out of the city.
  2. I am from NIT - festember and pragyan are registered functions restricted to groups - common public is never allowed. So classifying them as culture part of it is not fitting as they are more like private functions. Cigar is an industry and they are popular just because Churchill used them - culture amounts to maximum of trichy involved in it? There are a handful who use/work in that industry and if there is an industry, it should be under it.
  3. sth barely missing - anna planetorium, industries at large - bhel, happ, ordinance factory, tsrm and there is a huge list.

I am not against one-liners, but there is nothing distinct about it to find a place in a template. Any place will have 100 villages and another thousand temples - distinct ones(or famous) are always expected to be part of the template? S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 22:00, 31 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt

Templates are necessary for a city like Trichy. It's a million plus UA! Who said Thiruverumbur is not a part of Trichy UA. It's been recently included in the corporation limits. The UA of Trichy extended till Thuvakudi even during 1991. More recently Manachanallur was included in the UA, which means Uttamar Kovil is also a part of UA. And finally, the area of Trichy city is 146.9 sq km. and not 14.6 as you said. However, I agree with your point that "Festember" and "Pragyan" may not reflect the culture of the city in any way. But still they attract students from all over the country, and get a proper coverage in the media as pointed out by Ravi. So there in nothing harm in including that too. --Commander (Ping Me) 08:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
The case of Tiruverambur is still on(i saw in tv 2-3 weeks back) - as per the govt website(though they may not be updated as fast as others), it is still outside. If pragyan or festmeber is taken, there are other colleges that also conduct events and this list will end up with a big list. Festember used to be a partially-paid function - the first 30 participants from the college are free entrants and additional ones are paid. So i leave it to Ravi to decide. Kuzhumariamman and ukkarakali amman thiruvizha along with vekkaliamman thiruvizha and santhanakoodu used to pull atleast a few thousands. Media coverage may be limited, but these are definitely festivals of the land S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 12:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt
Even if they don't include Thiruverumbur in the corporation limits, still it will be a part of the Trichy UA. Coming to festivals, the ones which you mentioned can very well be included, provided they are really notable. --Commander (Ping Me) 12:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
User:Sriram mt, create articles for those festivals with unquestionable notability. We will then include them in the list. We don't want red links here. I've included all festivals in the list which have articles of their own. That's the criteria we've considered.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 15:51, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
There are already red links in there..!! Karuppu_Sami#Goat Sacrifice rituals is already there. Also vaikunta ekadesi links to the function, but an expanded & specific version is available here - Sri_Ranganathaswamy_Temple,_Srirangam#Vaikunta Ekadeshi. Sorry for pulling festember and pragyan again - we literally induce media to have these details(hindu is our patron). I am happy to have my college function in there, but it is just a step lesser than a promotion!! S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 22:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt
FYKI, there is no specific notability criteria for places. Nevertheless, I will remove those items. We need separate articles for the goat sacrifice ritual and Vaikunda Ekadasi to prove that they are actually notable. And then, I had not created the articles on Festember and Pragyan so I am not involved in promoting them. And I believe that those even during creation, enough sources were added for those articles.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 02:52, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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