Template talk:Historical definitions of race

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Concerning this template,

a)why is Australoid not under "present" and

b)what about Native Americans?

Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 13:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

The template is named "Historical definitions of race" but it turns out it is the only navigation template on the topic of race we have at present. It seems to be rather larger, so it might make sense to split off a generic "race" template and organise this one along historical lines.
At first glance this seems like a straightforward solution, but there appears to be a "political" angle, as there seem to be people on Wikipedia who wish to present all and any discussion of "race" as purely historical. This is ostensibly nonsense, of course, and (apart from possible ideological motivations) mostly a semantic confusion: in modern scientific (anthropological) literature, the term race has been partially avoided, because of its sociological implications, since the 1980s or so, what used to be called "race" in the anthropological sense is now called "lineage" or "metapopulation" etc. At the same time, race is still pretty much used in its historical meaning in medicine (epidemology) and in official census data.
"Australoid" and "Mongoloid" are very much a contemporary concepts in anthropology and population genetics. The addition of the term "race" is avoided by some authors and not by others, which creates the appearance that the concept is "historical" (as in, obsolete) while it is only the denominator "race" that has been replaced by "population", "metapopulation", "lineage" etc. because it has become taboo in some intellectual traditions since the 1970s. --dab (𒁳) 08:46, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Mongoloid and Yellow

Mongoloid race and yellow people are the same article. FonsScientiae (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Karl Binding

Should include https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Binding prokaryotes (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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