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Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
August 23 1
August 29 1
September 9 1 1
September 11 2 1
September 12 1
September 18 1 1
September 23 2
September 24 1
September 25 1
September 26 3 1
September 27 2
September 28 2 1
September 29 1
September 30 3 1
October 1 2 1
October 2 1 1
October 3 1 1
October 4 3
October 5 2 1
October 6 6 3
October 7 2 2
October 8 3 2
October 9 6 2
October 10 2 1
October 11 3 1
October 12 6 5
October 13 6 5
October 14 8 7
October 15 7 2
October 16 8 2
October 17 6 3
October 18 6 4
October 19 4
October 20 1
Total 105 49
Last updated 15:03, 20 October 2017 UTC
Current time is 17:00, 20 October 2017 UTC [refresh]

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Approved nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 29

Beatrix Borchard

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ done, hook length is fine, newly created, in time, hook is interesting, AGF on source, long enough. Good to go! Adityavagarwal (talk) 09:33, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The second and third paragraphs are completely unsourced, and these contain some of the hook facts, which also must be sourced, and by the end of the sentence that contain said facts. Since the hook says "married couples", the article needs to explicitly state this, not allow it to be inferred by mentioning people with the same name (they could, after all, be siblings). I was also wondering about her focus being "life and work of female and male musicians": why "female and male"? That's just musicians. However, if she focuses primarily on females, or females along with the males associated with them or married to them, that's significant. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:36, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Understand, please wait, busy weekend. - "females along with the males associated with them" seems too clumsy for a hook, therefore I used "married couples", - could be "couples". It would be easy to have sources about the mentioned people having been married (until divorce) but do we really need them in Borchardt's article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, I added some refs, please look again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
If the relationships are too hard to word concisely, perhaps this, especially as Viardot is the dominant topic recently (and deserves a link rather than Joseph):
ALT1: ... that the musicologist Beatrix Borchard researched female musicians such as Clara Schumann, Amalie Joachim and Pauline Viardot, and worked for the Goethe-Institut in Portugal, Romania and China?
Symbol question.svg Gerda Arendt Two issues with ALT1. First, Borchard's research of Pauline Viardot is only mentioned in the lead, and without an inline citation; the body states that "She has been the editor of the Viardot Garcia studies.n[3]," (which itself appears to contain a typo, ".n"), but that does not explicitly say that it has anything to do with studying Viardot. Second, that Borchard worked for the Goethe-Institut in Portugal, Romania and China, lacks an inline citation. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
I duplicated the countries ref. For Pauline, I should change the wording, advice? The studies have been done (not only planned, This mentions that a book Viardot is planned to be published in 2018. Better wording welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
@Usernameunique: If you are happy with the reference additions made by Gerda, could you give ALT1 a formal tick? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:29, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 9

Ophiopholis aculeata

  • ... that the crevice brittle star (pictured) is sometimes involved in mass spawning events?
    • ALT1:.... that the crevice brittle star is sometimes involved in mass spawning events, possibly triggered by a change in water temperature?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 13 September 2017 (UTC).

The crevice brittle star
The crevice brittle star
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Cwmhiraeth New, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citation checks out, QPQ done. Approving ALT0, as ALT1 doesn't seem to add much interest, and also really needs its own inline citation (there's one following "Several spawning events have occurred when warmer surface waters have down-welled into deep, colder water layers," but not after "The cue that triggers a spawning event may be a change in the temperature of the water"). Adding this PD photo, which is quite cool, and if anything looks better at low-res than at higher-res. Non-DYK comments:
  1. Three paragraphs in a row begin with "Ophiopholis aculeata ..."
  2. First sentence in "Description" section uses "which" twice --Usernameunique (talk) 07:06, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I am happy for the image to be used and have tweaked the prose in the way you suggest. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:18, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 11

Mediaster aequalis, Phyllochaetopterus prolifica

Underside of vermilion sea star
Underside of vermilion sea star

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Both articles meet size and expansion date requirements. The image at Mediaster aequalis has no problems due to it being released under a free license. All statements are sources, and a QPQ has been provided. I prefer the main hook as it's more concise and deals with the same topic as ALT1. This is good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:31, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

North West Cambridge Development

Fata Morgana tea house at North West Cambridge Development, Cambridge
Fata Morgana tea house at North West Cambridge Development, Cambridge

Created by Cmglee (talk). Self-nominated at 13:35, 12 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Can you put the sources in the hook, please? Daniel Case (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg: seconded the above request, moreover, I like ALT0, but what is in the article is slightly different from what is in the hook: "The Fata Morgana tea house sits on the western bank of Brook Leys lake. The two-storey pavilion was made from undulating stainless steel welded grating by German artists Wolfgang Winter and Berthold Hörbelt. Depending on light conditions, its polished surfaces can appear shiny or almost see-through." you should align hook and article. Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:11, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Daniel and Elisa. Done. Is that better? cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 21:58, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg yes, now is fine, approving hook ALT0. Elisa.rolle (talk) 17:17, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The review does not cite any of the standard DYK article checks against the criteria: size, timeliness, neutrality, sourcing, lack of close paraphrasing, etc. These need to be included in any DYK review. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg New, long enough, in time, sourced, neutral, no apparent copyvios. Cmglee, has there been any movement in the proposal to merge the article? Also, the hook facts need to be in the article. Currently there's nothing about see-through furniture, about Eddington taking an eclipse photograph, or about a toroidal building. --Usernameunique (talk) 15:00, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 Done for the last two. Thanks, Usernameunique. The steel mesh benches are self-evident from the photograph I linked, but if that's insufficient, I can make do with the other two hooks. I haven't had opportunity to merge the articles and would appreciate anyone having a go at it. Cheers, cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 01:55, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
@Usernameunique: If your concerns have been met, could you give this a tick of approval? Thanks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Cwmhiraeth, this cannot be given a tick or promoted while the article has a merge tag on it. It sounds like cmglee thinks they should be merged, and if that's the case, there clearly should not be a promotion until they are merged and the resulting article rechecked. If that isn't the case, there has been no discussion of the merger proposal, and the IP hasn't edited since making the proposal, so if nothing more happens in the next few days, the month will be up and the proposal can probably be removed, depending on the merits of the proposal. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 Done Hello BlueMoonset, I've merged in info from Eddington, Cambridge and removed the merge note. Is it OK now? Thanks, cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 16:54, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


  1. ^ "Western Edge - Winter / Hörbelt Commission". Contemporary Art Society. Retrieved 13 September 2017. 

Articles created/expanded on September 12

Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations

John Paul arriving in Sarajevo
John Paul arriving in Sarajevo
  • ... that Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations (papal visit pictured) have been fostered by Bosnian Muslim officials, but aggravated by the country's Christian officials?
    Source: "Momlico Krajisnik, the Serbian member of the presidency, refused to attend the welcoming ceremony because, as an Orthodox Christian, he does not recognise the Pope. But the Muslim member and chairman of the presidency, Alija Izetbegovic, was there to greet the Pope.." [1] "Srpski zastupnici u Domu naroda Parlamenta Bosne i Hercegovine u petak su spriječili odobravanje temeljnog ugovora o odnosima BiH i Svete stolice..." "'Vatikan je važan u međunarodnim odnosima', istaknuo je Tihić čija upozorenja nisu naišla na razumijevanje srpskih zastupnika." [2]

5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 14:11, 12 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is long enough and has been 5xed in less than seven days after this edit. The materials are properly cited with every paragraph having at least one citation. The text is not violating copyright and so is the inserted photo. However, Alija Izetbegovic's greeting the pope can't be generalized to "...Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations (flags pictured together) have been fostered by Bosnian Muslim officials." The lead of the article needs to be changed, too. --Mhhossein talk 13:23, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • It's not just Izetbegović. Tihić is mentioned too. It's not generalization, but merely plural, since both Izetbegović and Tihić were Bosnian Muslim officials. Surtsicna (talk) 16:19, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • "Izetbegović and Tihić" are two Muslim officials, not "Muslim officials". You'd better find a source for the claim. --Mhhossein talk 18:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • I beg your pardon, two Muslim officials are not Muslim officials? What are they then? Buddhists? Even if we are arguing semantics, I honestly do not see the problem there. Besides, Izetbegović and Tihić were (in 1997 and 2007 respectively) leaders of the ruling Muslim party, and Izetbegović exercised executive power, so they were the Muslim officials. The sources are cited, both here and in the article. Surtsicna (talk) 20:22, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • @Surtsicna and Mhhossein: I think you're both right here. Although two Muslim officials are certainly "Muslim officials" in a literal sense, the hook naturally reads as referring to the Muslim and Christian officials as individual and distinct blocs. Propose:
ALT1: ... that Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations (papal visit pictured) have been fostered by some Bosnian Muslim officials, but aggravated by other of the country's Christian officials? --Usernameunique (talk) 22:23, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
@Usernameunique:I fear that makes the hook less "hooky" ("short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article"). The original is not factually incorrect, obviously not in a literal sense but not in any other either since these two did represent the largest (and ruling) Muslim party. Perhaps implicitly referring to two specific instances would be a better solution to this (non-existant, IMO) problem: Surtsicna (talk) 22:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Usernameunique: Thanks for the suggestion, I think "some" is vague. Surtsicna's suggestions are both WP:OR and needs to be addressed. --Mhhossein talk 02:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
  • The sources cited in the article and quoted here clearly show there is no OR involved. There is nothing wrong with my or Usernameunique's hook being "vague"; in fact, giving only part of the relevant information is advised to make the hook more interesting. If you are not able or willing to read the article or the sources, or at least the nomination (in which these sources are quoted), this nomination needs another reviewer. Surtsicna (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Surtsicna and Mhhossein: If we want "to make the hook more interesting," then:

ALT3: ... that when Pope John Paul II paid a state visit to Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1997, 23 mines were discovered placed where he was supposed to have driven? --Usernameunique (talk) 19:24, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I considered something like that, but decided it would be better to have the title of the article mentioned verbatim since it's not about a single visit (we have such articles). I also think your former suggestion (as well as mine) is more interesting since, well, Sarajevo is already well-known for both assassinations and mines. Surtsicna (talk) 20:24, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
@Surtsicna and Mhhossein: It's the combination of a pope and mines and a possible assassination attempt that make it interesting. Here it is again, rephrased:
ALT4: ... that with Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations improving, Pope John Paul II came for a visit (pictured)—and then discovered that 23 mines were placed where he was to have driven? --Usernameunique (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT4 is an improvement. I see no problem with this suggestion. We can move forward with it. --Mhhossein talk 02:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I have updated the image. It appears that a far more relevant one was available on the Commons. Also updated the hooks accordingly. Surtsicna (talk) 12:28, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg For ALT4, I very much doubt that the Pope was the one who discovered the 23 mines, as is implied by the wording. If the idea is to be used, it will need to be reworded. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Well, if we nitpicked about the original hook, we may as well nitpick about ALT4 too. I still think the original is more interesting. What do you say, BlueMoonset? Surtsicna (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset and Mhhossein:, here are reworded versions:
ALT5: ... that with Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations improving, Pope John Paul II came for a visit (pictured)—and then police discovered 23 mines placed where he was to have driven?
ALT6: ... that with Bosnia and Herzegovina–Holy See relations improving, Pope John Paul II came for a visit (pictured)—only for police to discover 23 mines placed where he was to have driven? --Usernameunique (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: Thanks for the point. The nominator insists that the original is factually correct, which I find false. --Mhhossein talk 19:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: We can ask for another review, if you still think the original hook is factually right and accurate. --Mhhossein talk 19:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 18

Balanophyllia elegans

Orange cup coral
Orange cup coral
  • ... that the orange cup coral (pictured) obtains part of its nutritional needs from carbon compounds dissolved in sea water? Source: (link for source [3] )

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:17, 23 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Starting review--Kevmin § 19:49, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article new enough and long enough. Article and hook sourced. I question the identification of image "Balanophyllia elegans, Koh Phangan.jpg" though. The data supplied at EOL give the location as Thailand, and that is outside the range of "B. elegans", also the color is not correct given the descriptions provided.--Kevmin § 02:24, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Good point, I have removed the image from the article. (Note to promoter, the suspect image is not the one used in this hook) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:48, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
  • {{ Symbol voting keep.svg}} Article new enough and long enough. Article sourced and hook sourced with off line sourcing taken AGF. No policy issues identified, no copyvio problems and images are now good to go. --Kevmin § 20:25, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 26

Auguste Le Guennant

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:26, 2 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Date (just!) and length fine. AGF on foreign language and offline sources. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:05, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article needs citations for the first two paragraphs of the Biography section before it can proceed. And while we are about it, the hook is a bit unfocussed. How about something like
  • I don't speak French, so can't double a citation. I believe that a hook should mention that he was not just any expert but the director of the institution on the topic, which I hope will get an article in English also. LouisAlain? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, it should be available by tomorrow; LouisAlain (talk) 11:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, for whatever, an article or missing citations or both --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Musca sorbens

Bazaar fly
Bazaar fly
  • ... that the bazaar fly prefers to breed in human excrement in preference to the faeces of other animals?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:22, 28 September 2017 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated, long enough (>2,500 characters), neutral and supported by reputable sources, with no plagiarism problems that I can see without access to the offline sources. Hook ALT1 is cited and supported by the sources, and is interesting enough. The image is GNU 1.2 only, and it looks good at 100px. A solid species article, ready for DYK! Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Far West, Austin, Texas

  • ... that the Northwest Hills–Far West area is a hub for Jewish activity in Austin, Texas? Source: "The Northwest Hills area, and specifically Far West, are a hub for Jewish activity in Austin with the Jewish Community Center and multiple congregations. " (Reference)

5x expanded by Austin-geo (talk). Self-nominated at 15:55, 26 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are sourced inline, the article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. No QPQ is needed by this new Wikipedia editor. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:12, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
  • I moved the page and adjusted the DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I came by to promote this, and did some editing on the article and added a "clarification needed" tag. I think the hook is rather bland. It also uses the same words as the source, which quotes a delicatessen owner. I would think you would cite a more reliable source for such a fact. Also, it would be nice to know just how many Jews live there. Yoninah (talk) 00:28, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I left a message at the article's talkpage. I believe I clarified the confusion. Let me know if that's not the case. I'm also working on finding a better source, but at the momment I cannot find anything saying that Northwest Hills/FW in itself is the hub for Jewish activity in Austin (other than what I already provided). I also don't know if established real estate pages are reliable too for such a claim, like this one, which says: "Northwest Hills is home to the Dell Jewish Community Center – the city’s most known hub for Jewish learning, worship, and community gatherings." Thought it doesn't directly mention the suburb as being a hub for Jewish activity, it does for the community center, which is in the neighborhood. Austin-geo (talk) 01:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
ALT1 "... that Michael Dell founded a Jewish community center in Austin's neighborhood Northwest Hills?"
  • @Austin-geo: I did a little look-around on Google and see that this neighborhood is called "Northwest Hills", with Far West Boulevard being the main street. I think this page should be moved to Northwest Hills (Austin, Texas). I don't understand why you're focusing so much on the Jewish community in your hook. You haven't given so many details about the Jewish community in the article; the part about it having the only eiruv in Austin, as mentioned by the selectaustin.com real estate page, would be good to add here. It's also not clear why you're rating the article C-class when it doesn't have any images.
  • IMO a better hook would be:
  • ALT2: ... that an Austin, Texas newspaper dubbed a swimming pool in Northwest Hills "The Traz", since the middle school next to it resembles the Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary? Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Far West, being the main street of Northwest Hills, often becomes synonyms with the neighborhood (see here, here, here, here, here). Since most neighborhood articles from Austin are titled "Neighborhood, Austin, Texas", the move to "Northwest Hills, Austin, Texas" is probably best. I'm focusing on the Jewish community because its a main aspect of the neighborhood. I don't have any numbers for the amount of Jewish in the area, but in 2003 it was around 8,000 (according to a Google Book source). The numbers are probably somewhat skewed because non-Jewish people attend the community center for the facilities/other events too, myself included. I'm currently working on getting other sections done, but I plan to expand the Culture section once I'm done with the rest. The article is still formation, so please be patient. I believe it was Cwmhiraeth who changed it to C-Class. I'm not sure what the classes mean yet so I'll leave it up to you guys.
I still like ALT1 the most because it is shorter and covers a more popular attraction of the area. We can let the reviewer decide what he/she wants. Austin-geo (talk) 02:05, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • OK, I'll move the page to Northwest Hills (Austin, Texas) and adjust the DYK credit line. I had the feeling you were involved with the Jewish community there; it comes across in the writing. BTW if you are able to take some pictures of the area and of the Jewish community center, it would really enhance the article.
  • Since I'm re-reviewing the article now, I'm the one who will give it the final approval, so no need for a "re-review" icon. From my years of working at DYK, I can tell you that ALT1 is not going to attract many hits. The idea is to "hook" the reader with an intriguing fact that will make them click on the article. You can spotlight the Jewish community in your hook, but make it a hooky hook! Yoninah (talk) 11:25, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you for clarifying. I desperately want to take pictures of the area, but the camera quality on my phone is pretty bad. Yesterday I took a picture of the "Far West Boulevard" exit/entry sign from Loop 1 – I realized immediately that I needed a better camera. The residential area has a lot of trees and mountains (which means differences in lighting), so I'll definitely need to bring a better camera if I want to go around taking pictures. I added a picture on Wikipedia yesterday and it is now in the neighborhood box. I followed the licensing format from another user who had uploaded a picture of Circle C Ranch. Please advise on what else you need from me. Best, Austin-geo (talk) 13:39, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Austin-geo: 1. Please let me know when you're finished expanding the article. 2. Please let me know which hook you want to use. You could make ALT1 hooky by adding some details, like:
  • ALT1a ... that the Northwest Hills neighborhood of Austin, Texas, includes a 40-acre complex founded by the chief executive officer of Dell, housing Jewish community centers, synagogues, and schools? (But I still vote for ALT2 if you want to get a lot more hits) Yoninah (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Hello. I'm done expanding the article. I just need to add some info on the deer population in the neighborhood and some toll road problems (Northwest Hills residents cannot see the fee board while going south on Loop 1 from Far West Blvd). But these should be minor updates that I probably won't get a chance to complete till the end of the week. I support whichever hook you prefer. Thank you for your help and suggestions. Austin-geo (talk) 17:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Austin-geo: OK, thanks. It looks very good. I read through the article and added some links, a conversion template, and other editing. Thanks for fixing up the Physical geography section. One last thing: the Insider's Guide to Austin only has 435 or so pages, but you're citing something on page 618. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:21, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I removed the page numbers from the bibliography section. Do you know how to create a URL that will link directly to the page in question? In Google Books, search on the name of the book plus some of the wording on that page. This will take you to a URL that includes the page number. Delete everything after the page number–this is the URL to use. Yoninah (talk) 18:26, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I believe I just fixed it right now. Let me know if I did it right. Thanks a lot, Austin-geo (talk) 18:33, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg We're ready! But unfortunately, I can't review my own hook suggestion. I'd like to call on another reviewer to decide between ALT1, ALT1a, and ALT2. Pinging @Cwmhiraeth:. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg All the hooks are satisfactory but I suggest going with ALT1a. I rated the article as C-class at an earlier stage when I found it was rated as a stub. It is much more comprehensive than most start class articles. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been tagged for unreliable sources and is currently undergoing a major edit/trimming. I suggest waiting on promotion until the issues are sorted out. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Austin-geo: there's no need for a hasty withdrawal on your part. Just because the article is being trimmed down to meet Wikipedia guidelines doesn't mean it shouldn't appear on the main page, where it will get lots of page views. Please keep CALM and let's see where the article is holding in another week or so. Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svgThe article is clearly promotional, cites real estate websites rather than reliable sources and has the look of paid editing. Please withdraw it for good. Smallbones(smalltalk) 15:28, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Smallbones - Thank you for exercising good faith. Per WP:RS, "Journalistic and academic sources are preferable, however, and e-commerce links should be replaced with non-commercial reliable sources if available ... Questionable sources (i.e. promotional, as mentioned a sentence before) are generally unsuitable for citing contentious claims ..." Which means real estate sources, though not "preferable", are fine if used with cautious. You might as well read WP:PROMOTIONAL, "An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view", which I believe I have. Before accusing me of paid editing, read the article's talkpage. Austin-geo (talk) 15:37, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Stop wikilawyering. You need to listen to what editors are saying to you without attacking them. What they are saying is essentially "you are promoting the subject of the article", "you are using inappropriate sources", and I'll add "you have every appearance of an undisclosed paid editor." Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:37, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
How did I attack you? BTW, you just ignored the policies I posted. Austin-geo (talk) 18:14, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article is still being edited and still meets DYK start-class criteria, so replacing tick until everything is sorted out. Yoninah (talk) 18:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 28

Syllis prolifera

  • ... that growing juvenile Syllis prolifera can add a new segment every two days? Source: "Throughout the juvenile development a new segment is added every 2 days and when the individuals reach the size of 30-40 segments become ready to start the first stolonization."
    • ALT1:... that when breeding, the polychaete worm Syllis prolifera produces a detachable "stolon" which joins other stolons to swarm in the water column? Source: " the stolon detaches from the benthic parent individual (benthic stock) undertaking a brief pelagic existence swarming in the water column to spawn"

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:29, 1 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Nominated three days after creation, and is just over 2kB, satisfying date and length criteria. Could you change the heading "ecology", as it appears this section is really about the organism's life cycle or reproduction. Other than that, the article is sourced, there are no copyvio issues, and the image has an appropriate licence. The hooks are of suitable length and sourced. Good to go, but please change the header. Mindmatrix 19:42, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I have changed the section heading. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:14, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Note: I forgot to mention that QPQ was completed. Mindmatrix 23:29, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I notice that the article is an orphan. Could you link it in another article so it won't be tagged? Regarding the hooks, I find the first one a little vague and the second one too technical. But perhaps links could be added to ALT1 to elucidate the terms? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:51, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Deorphaned. How about ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:09, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that the marine worm Syllis prolifera has a an unusual life-cycle involving a detachable "stolon"?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Re-approving ALT0 and ALT1 now that the article is no longer an orphan. Not a huge fan of ALT2 to begin with, but Cwmhiraeth, which in the ResearchGate paper does it say that the life-cycle is unusual? --Usernameunique (talk) 05:17, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't, so I have struck that word from the ALT2 hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 30

Homi F. Daji

  • ... that communist politician Homi F. Daji called the 1985 Bhopal gas leak "a callous man-made tragedy of unparalleled dimensions"? Source: [4]

5x expanded by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 22:25, 3 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is a recent five-time expansion that's new enough and well-cited. I've done a bit of tidy-up. The hook fact checks out and is reasonably interesting; it's certainly the most interesting fact from the article. I've tweaked the hook for a double "a". I didn't come across any copyvios at those sources that I checked, and Earwig's Copyvio Detector said that "Violation Unlikely 9.1% confidence". QPQ is the outstanding issue. Schwede66 01:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Post-QPQ, this is all good to go. Schwede66 21:45, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I suggest this alt (please correct the wording if it's wrong):
  • ALT1: ... that when the relatively unknown Homi F. Daji contested his first election for a Legislative Assembly seat from Indore, he gained more votes than the prominent opposition-party leader? Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Yoninah Did you have a look whether this is backed up in one of the sources? I'm asking because when I looked through the sources, I seem to remember that this particular aspect wasn't mentioned anywhere (at least not where I looked) but I didn't worry about it because the article is otherwise well referenced, and that obviously wasn't a hook fact at that point. Schwede66 05:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: yes, I looked in the source, and I found only the vote totals, nothing about Oke being a "prominent leader" of the Hindu Mahasabha party. @Soman: if you like ALT1, could you provide a citation for the "prominent leader" fact? Yoninah (talk) 10:57, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Nematophagous fungus

Shaggy ink caps feed on nematodes
Shaggy ink caps feed on nematodes

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:33, 4 October 2017 (UTC).

  • It looks as if your source is here.[1] There are probably some nicer pictures here: commons:category:Coprinus comatus. I prefer ALT2, because ALT1 makes me imagine shaggycaps lassoing nematodes from the air as they fly by. HLHJ (talk) 04:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I have struck the original hook. About the image, I chose it from all the ones available on Commons because it shows two fruiting bodies in prime condition and two others disintegrating into ink. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
By that criterion it's a good image, and probably very useful to readers who've never seen shaggycaps. I withdraw my objection.
Symbol confirmed.svg I can't see any problems. I'd really like to know if the fungi mostly eat fungus-eating nematodes, or the common ones that eat bacteria, or if they preferentially eat the nematodes that eat living crop roots, or the nematode-eating nematodes, etc.. But in the past I've found that there is little information about nematodes that don't harm either humans or their crops. This is certainly the case in the nematode article. This imbalance seems to be in the human knowledge, though, not just your article, which is a vast improvement over the stub that it was at the end of last month, so it's unfair for me to whinge at you about it. Well done; it's a good article and an interesting DYK. If somewhat gruesome in parts. Thank you. HLHJ (talk) 00:55, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. My guess is that most research is concentrated on economically important nematodes, and that the fungi don't care what species of nematode they eat. Clever fungi! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


  1. ^ Luo, H.; Liu, Y.; Fang, L.; Li, X.; Tang, N.; Zhang, K. (2007). "Coprinus comatus Damages Nematode Cuticles Mechanically with Spiny Balls and Produces Potent Toxins to Immobilize Nematodes". Applied and Environmental Microbiology. 73 (12): 3916–3923. PMC 1932715Freely accessible. PMID 17449690. doi:10.1128/AEM.02770-06. 

Cary Moon

  • ... that Seattle mayoral candidate Cary Moon qualified for the general election by a margin of 1,362 votes? Source: Seattle Met

Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 00:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long enough, cited, and with QPQ. Only issue is that infobox image may not satisfy non-free use rationale requirements, and is currently nominated for deletion. I recognize that this image is not being submitted as part of the DYK nom, but if I understand correctly, this still constitutes a potential "copyright violation of images and/or text" for the article. --NoGhost (talk) 18:20, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg The non-free image has been replaced, and everything looks good to go now. --NoGhost (talk) 21:54, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but footnote 10, which includes the vote tally that you're quoting, says there were 1,200 uncounted ballots. Do you have a final vote count from which to extrapolate her winning margin? Yoninah (talk) 23:59, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: The official certified results indicate a 1,170 margin, which is cited by reference 9. The hook should be changed accordingly: ALT1: ... that Seattle mayoral candidate Cary Moon qualified for the general election by a margin of 1,170 votes? SounderBruce 00:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per NoGhost. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg WP:DYKHOOK says "Articles and hooks featuring election candidates up to 30 days before an election in which they are standing should be avoided, unless the hook is a "multi" that includes bolded links to new articles on all the main candidates." The Seattle mayoral election, 2017 runs from 18 October to 7 November, so we can't run this article in DYK. See Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Prep_4_-_Cary_Moon BencherliteTalk 10:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Thanks for the rule, Bencherlite. However, as suggested by The Rambling Man at WT:DYK, there could be a better hook for this article after the election: It's probably more interesting to note that she apparently spent nearly $100,000 of her own "wealth" during the campaign while simultaneously campaigning for "income equality". Putting this nomination on hold until after November 7. Yoninah (talk) 10:49, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • That's not in the article, and I can't immediately locate it in the sources (but I'm sure TRM found it somewhere). I have no problem with it being on hold, but a hook that said words to the effect of "a rich person campaigns for income equality" would have to be very carefully worded to avoid sounding as though WP was saying that she was being hypocritical. BencherliteTalk 10:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment: we typically place approved election hooks in the Special Occasions section with an instruction to promote on the day after election day or later, though since Seattle is UTC-8, it would need to be in a "November 9 or later" section, since voting would still be open at midnight UTC on November 8. (Am I correct in remembering that elections in Washington State are run entirely by mail? In that case, the hook cannot hit the main page before the last time to mail anything with a November 7 pickup or postmark.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:36, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm fine with holding until November 9 (or later). Washington uses a majority-mail system, but absentee and booth ballots can still take a while to process. The results should be be certified on November 28, upon which the newly elected mayor (Moon or Durkan) will take office effective immediately. SounderBruce 06:29, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 1

Arthrobotrys dactyloides

  • Reviewed: Glauben können wie du
  • Comment: Arthrobotrys dactyloides = Dactylariopsis dactyloides, they are synonyms.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 6 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough (5 days), long enough (2276), neutral (for a fungus), and well cited. Hook is within length, cited, meets all requirements. QPQ done. Good to go. Unrelated to DYK - article doesn't mention the distribution (saw China, Portugal, UK in source but wasn't sure if that was this species only). MB 00:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
In reality, it has been found in China, Portugal and the UK, but where else it exists, nobody knows. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
You don't want to mention that in the article? MB 04:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 2

John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk

Created/expanded by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (talk). Self-nominated at 18:46, 4 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was given GA status on 2 October and as such is well written, well cited and more than long enough. Hook is undoubtedly attractive, the only problem I have is the sentence/claim (in the "Estates and Income" section) isn't directly followed by an inline citation. Presumably the fact comes from the ONB (which is behind a paywall). Could do with the quote being copied to the DYK nominaton template, and an inline citation added to support it in the article. Sionk (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Done that Sionk. — fortunavelut luna 18:31, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Okay, I'll AGF that the fact is in the source. Good to go! Sionk (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The hook implies that he spent £2000 in his preparations for the campaign, when in reality, that sum was the cost to his pocket of living and fighting in France with his troops, so I think the hook needs expressing a different way. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Oh goodie, here we are again.
The source states "His deep military commitment is uniquely documented in his receiver-general's minute account of the expenditure of some £2000 for the Agincourt campaign in order for him to be appropriately equipped, even down to the seat for his own privy." I.e. the two grand was part of the preparations.
...sûr la Thamise et Chelsea. Caio! — fortunavelut luna 10:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
That's interesting. So the hook might be fairly accurate but the article is not. If you had quoted that passage during the nomination process as requested, I would probably not have raised any objection before promoting the hook. As things are, the £2000 either relates to the preparations for the campaign (ie a budgeted amount), or to the actual costs of the campaign. Which? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Good, I'm glad to hear that this is fully in line with DYK guidelines then. Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 15:36, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
In case you hadn't noticed, I get criticised when I promote inaccurate hooks, so I try to avoid promoting them. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:32, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
I noticed indeed that you do seem to draw the occasional crushing remark! Wot gives?! — fortunavelut luna 18:01, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
  • OK. I'm not trying to sabotage this nomination, just aiming for some accuracy. Here are the problems I identified:
  • Source "expenditure of some £2000" - Article "cost him £2,000" - Hook "cost him over £2,000" --ie, the hook is inaccurate because "some £2000" has become "over £2000".
  • Source "[documented] the expenditure of some £2000 for the Agincourt campaign in order for him to be appropriately equipped" - Article "The Agincourt campaign, for example, cost him £2,000" - Hook "his preparations ... cost him over £2,000". The point here is that when he left for France, he did not know whether the campaign would be over in weeks, or months or years, so £2000 must either be a figure for his preparations as you suggest, or a total figure for his costs of taking part in the campaign, which would only be known afterwards, and which would make the article inaccurate.
  • The hook is awkwardly phrased and needs reworking. Bringing in the privy seat is difficult unless you mention the detailed accounts. What would £2000 be in today's money? It must have been an enormous sum back then, would that make a better hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Hooks need to be of limited length. The current hook seems fine in length and catchiness, but as Cwmhiraeth points out the word "over" needs removing. I suppose you could add the present day figure to the WP article (£2,153,699.23 according to [5]) and have
ALT1 "... that John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk's preparations for the 1415 Agincourt campaign cost him £2,000 (over £2,000,000 in today's value) and included a seat for his own toilet? Sionk (talk) 18:00, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
What about
Where are you (both) getting this £2,000,000 figure from?? The BoE... which reckons inflation @1.2%...?! Yeah right  :D still, I could go for ALT1, just remove the unnecessary converation into sterling. — fortunavelut luna 18:24, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
ALT1a ... that John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk's preparations for the 1415 Agincourt campaign cost him £2,000 and included a seat for his own toilet?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Approving ALT1a, which also removes the link to the disambiguation page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:51, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 3

Ethiopian hare

5x expanded by Adityavagarwal (talk) and Umimmak (talk). Nominated by Adityavagarwal (talk) at 14:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and plenty long enough. The hook facts have inline citations, the article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. QPQ has been done. A very nice expansion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 5

Abbie Hutty

Abbie Hutty at Science Foo Camp
Abbie Hutty at Science Foo Camp
  • ... that ExoMars engineer, Abbie Hutty (pictured), is the youngest ever Fellow of the IMechE?
  • Reviewed: Knave-Go-By
  • Comment: The article has been nominated for deletion so we should await the outcome of that discussion. Has been kept at AfD.

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 18:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and there are no apparent copyright problems. It draws on a wide range of sources, the large majority of which are appropriate. A DYK review has been completed. This is an interesting article and would be a good addition to DYK. However, there are some issues. Firstly, the article is currently being considered for deletion. It looks likely to be kept, but should not appear on the front page until the discussion is closed. The other issues need addressing:
  • There are some statements in the article which are not sourced. It may be that some of the existing sources cover them, but (especially as this is a biography of a living person), they need to be explicitly sourced.
  • One sentence is sourced to LinkedIn; although perhaps sufficient for her current job title, it would be great if there is a better source available.
  • The September 2016 edition of The Engineer is referenced, but this needs more detail - which article on which page supports the statement?
  • The page to which the unoosa reference links does not mention Hutty; perhaps a subpage does?
  • The hook is not fully supported by the source, which states that she was (at the time) the youngest Fellow of the Institute of Mechanical Engineers, but not whether she was the youngest ever fellow.
  • The picture is appropriately licensed but is not clear at small size. It could potentially be drastically cropped, but it's probably best not to use it on the front page.
Because of the various sourcing issues, I've not fully reviewed every source used, but will do so if and when the initial issues are addressed. Warofdreams talk 22:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@Warofdreams: I've fixed the sourcing issues. The Engineer reference is an online "Q&A with spacecraft engineer Abbie Hutty" which says "I am the structures engineer on the ExoMars mission", but doesn't verify all the information preceding it, so I've dropped another source in. I don't think the picture is suitable main page material; if wishes were horses and beggars rode the Grand National, I'd use http://www.womanthology.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Abbie-Hutty-300-x-400.jpg but that's non-free.
If you want a more straightforward hook, I'd go for ALT1 ... that Abbie Hutty hopes there really is Life on Mars? (It'll make David Bowie fans take notice). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: Lots of good work on this, thanks, I think it's nearly there. Do you have a page number for the article in source 5 which verifies the information? I've looked through the magazine, but still can't see it. The other sources look good. Her first two awards need sourcing or removing, and then I believe it's ready. ALT1 is an interesting hook, but is there anything on whether she has been involved in looking for life on Mars, has said she hopes it is found, or believes it exists? It might be possible to change the hook a bit to something clearly justified by the article, based on her contribution to Horizon, though I suspect it would be less attention grabbing. Warofdreams talk 15:46, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I've gone all the way through the Engineer source cited at the start of the "Career" section but I can't see anything except a photo of her, so I've had to take that out I've fixed up the other sources in the "Awards" section. I've dropped another source into the article (http://principiaspacediary.org/abbie-hutty-on-finding-life-on-mars-and-how-engineers-have-all-the-fun/) which includes the quotation "... as those missions have taught us more and more about Mars, we’ve actually learnt that there could still be separate, Mars life, living there already, or that lived there in the past. That’s what our mission hopes to find out. To do that, we have a REALLY big drill – 2 metres long!" which does back up ALT1. As ever, it's a balance between having something factually accurate against something that's quirky enough to make people want to click on the article when it gets to the main page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:07, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg All issues now resolved, ALT1 approved now source provided. Warofdreams talk 17:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • FYI, the primary author of this article, Jesswade88, is away at a STEM conference in the US currently and so has been too busy to attend to these developments. She was quite nonplussed that it was nominated for deletion so it's good that we're past that now. Andrew D. (talk) 17:21, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney)

Created by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:30, 7 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new, long enough, well referenced, neutral, and I couldn't see any close paraphrasing. I think the hook is brilliant (and would work very nicely in the "quirky" spot of the set) and it is supported by inline citations. QPQ is done. 97198 (talk) 05:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg There are a lot of unreferenced paragraphs in the Albert Sidney Johnston article, so we would normally not link it on the main page. I added an "unreferenced section" tag to one section, and then realized that a lot more is unreferenced, including this information about his statue. Perhaps you could add some of your references in the Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney) to the Albert Sidney Johnston article to bring it up to speed? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Oh, I didn't think to check that! I've added a couple of my sources to support the claims about his grave monument in his biographical article, but I don't have the books that most of the citations seem to be drawn from in that article, so it would be tough for me to try to fill in the (many) missing citations. Hrm... If that article isn't sufficiently well supported to be linked from the front page, could we un-link his name in the hook? That makes the joke a little tougher to parse, though; I can try to come up with a different hook if this policy kills my first proposal.-Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 19:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 6

Antonov An-70

An An-70 in-flight
An An-70 in-flight
  • ... that the Antonov An-70 (pictured) was the first aircraft to fly that was powered only by propfans? Source: "the transport — the first aircraft in the world to be flown powered by propfans only — landed at Gostomel flight-test centre ahead of an approaching snowstorm."[7]

Improved to Good Article status by Sp33dyphil (talk). Self-nominated at 05:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is a newly promoted GA and is long enough and nominated in time. The image is suitably licensed, the hook facts are sourced inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. So we are just waiting for a QPQ review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
@Sp33dyphil: QPQ required for this to proceed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: Thank you for your review. I'm looking at Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet (DYK nom.) right now. Regards, --Sp33dyphil (talk) 05:38, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
The image has also been changed. --Sp33dyphil (talk) 06:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. The alternative image is appropriately licensed. This is now good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Wer weiß, wie nahe mir mein Ende

Ämilie Juliane von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt
Ämilie Juliane von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt
  • Reviewed: Sunkam Achalu
  • Comment: The image has her maiden name, but she wrote the hymn as a married woman. Don't know what to use, both are longish. The Lutheran hymn is suitable for Reformation Day, 31 Oct.

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:02, 9 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article meets the DYK requirements of newness, length, image licencing, inline citation of hook facts, neutrality and policy. The QPQ has been done. So we come to the wording of the hook, the phrase "intended to prepare for a good death" is comprehensible but not idiomatic. Not having an English language version it is difficult for me to offer an improvement, but you could have
Yes, thanks for offering, but can you find something in English that at least hints at that this hymn is not sad (as "funeral" might imply) but sung by her in meditations held daily to prepare herself for a "good death", and by publication try to help others to do the same? Perhaps by including the translation of the incipit, or the last line? Or along the lines of this:
ALT2 ... that Countess Ämilie Juliane von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt (pictured) wrote 587 songs and hymns, including "Wer weiß, wie nahe mir mein Ende", used in her regular meditations towards a good death? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg I can't say I am keen on a "good death", but let that be. ALT2 approved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

KMT (song)

  • ... that Drake's song "KMT" sampled the theme "His World" from the 2006 video game Sonic the Hedgehog? Source: Bychawski, Adam (18 March 2017). "See all the producers and samples on Drake's More Life". FACT Magazine. 

5x expanded by Jon Kolbert (talk). Self-nominated at 16:40, 6 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Robert P. Armstrong

Justice Armstrong in 2017.
Justice Armstrong in 2017.

5x expanded by Patar knight (talk). Self-nominated at 08:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a five-fold expansion. It is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The creator appears to have five previous DYKs. Theoretically he should do a QPQ review but I am donating one of my spare reviews because his talk page states that he is wikibonked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't find the hook hooky. It seems to introduce too many facts, diverting from the main subject. Instead of explaining what the Dubin Inquiry was, perhaps have a shorter version of the hook focusing on the hooky details. Alternately, you may wish to create a hook with details from another of his interesting cases. Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 7

Central Province, Zambia

Central Province, Zambia
Central Province, Zambia

Improved to Good Article status by Ssriram mt (talk) and Tdslk (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 05:56, 11 October 2017 (UTC).

While I appreciate being credited, I just copy edited the article; the GA belongs to Ssriram mt. But since I've been tagged anyway, I'll quibble that the meteorological data are just for one location in the province, not the entire province, and it's a bit unclear to me whether it truly never rains there or if it's just quite rare. Either way, for my money, something about the Mulungushi Rock of Authority would be a more interesting factoid. Tdslk (talk) 00:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Interesting Good article, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licenses but not specific in small size. So is the hook, not exciting, - anything else? Environment? 30% speaking Bemba? - A few questions regarding the article not for DYK, just quality):
  • Why mention red links in the lead?
  • What has the swamp image to do with history?
  • Do we have a source for the historic site there?
  • Why is Main:Wildlife under Culture? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I have dealt with some of the points you raised but don't like to mess about with someone else's newly promoted GA, and suggest these alternative hooks. I don't want to wikilink to the Mulungushi Rock of Authority article in the hook because it is a disambiguation page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. "Without rainfall" is nothing sepecific. "is the site" - is that what we say when one specific place is within a whole province? Just my language question. The points for the article are not necessary for approval, but I hope the new GA gets better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 8

Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet

Luther in 1526
Luther in 1526
  • ... that the communion song "Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet", which Martin Luther (pictured) derived from an older model, entered Catholic hymnals in the 20th century? Source: [10]

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article has been expanded 5x, is long enough and was nominated within seven days. The image is suitably licensed, and the hook is short enough and the hook fact is sourced inline. There are no copyright issues. With the hook, I assume "derived from an older model" to mean "derived from an older hymn" (the article says that Luther used an older first stanza and melody); could you please confirm this? It's not clear what "model" means. Regards, --Sp33dyphil (talk) 01:38, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the review! - At the time when Luther wrote this, there was no congregational strophic hymn singing, - he sort of made that popular. Sorry, the assumption is wrong. The "older model" (as the article explains but perhaps it should come out more clearly, help welcome!) was a refrain of the congregation in German to a sequence sung in in Latin by a Choralschola (as that is called nowö) and chant. Luther made that refrain (with minor changes) the first stanza of his hymn. However worded, it will be too long for this hook, - I took "model" as a summary. Help for the hook's wording is also welcome, to say that it came from the catholic tradition, and is now back to (Roman) Catholic, ecumenically accepted. Luther took A LOT from the tradition, compare other hymns. It's my statement for Reformation Day, - if we can have only one DYK about Reformation that Day, I hope this will be it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • So according to you, the refrain was from a sequence; according to the article, a sequence "is a chant or hymn". I still don't understand why in what sense hymn as a word is not applicable in this case. Regards, --Sp33dyphil (talk) 08:42, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Sorry, English is not my first language. "Hymn" is a word with too many meanings, for my taste, so I try to avoid it. A national anthem can be a hymn, Luther's strophic songs (in German: "Kirchenlied" = church song) are called hymns, Gregorian chant can be called a hymn. How would a reader know which kind we mean? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I assume that the main point of the hook is that Luther took a Catholic refrain and use it in his song, and was later readmitted into Catholic services. In that case, I think less emphasis should be placed on the specific type of song that Luther drew inspiration from. Perhaps we could reword the hook as:
  • ALT1:... that the communion song "Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet", which Martin Luther (pictured) partially derived from a Catholic chorus, entered Catholic hymnals in the 20th century? What do you think? Regards, --Sp33dyphil (talk) 05:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
I like the idea but not the word chorus, - the chorus would be rather the singers of the Latin sequence. "catholic" before the Reformation should be lower case, or avoided ;) - If we have space we can be precise (and elucidate about the little known fact that there was liturgical singing in German before Luther):
ALT2: ... that the communion song "Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet", which Martin Luther (pictured) derived from a congregational refrain in German, entered Catholic hymnals in the 20th century? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
OK. I'm not sure if ALT2 conveys what you wanted to be conveyed as per your first response. I just think that "congregational refrain in German" places emphasis on the type of song, instead of Luther himself, which takes away the impact of the fact that it entered Catholic hymnals. In other words, do you want to emphasise Luther, or the fact that the song was from a the catholic tradition? Thoughts? --Sp33dyphil (talk) 03:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I think that the phrase "older model" from the original hook implied (enough) that he built on tradition, and I saw no need to say Catholic twice in a hook planned for Reformation Day, because I don't expect the average to get that the two "catholic" don't mean the same ;) - He wrote several songs relying on Latin models, therefore I thought "German" might add. The one other hymn relying on a German model that I know is Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
How is this:
ALT3: ... that the communion song "Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet", which Martin Luther (pictured) derived from a traditional German chant, entered Catholic hymnals in the 20th century? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg OK, thanks for that. --Sp33dyphil (talk) 22:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Fit in or fuck off

  • ... that the phrase "fit in or fuck off" — an organizational paradigm — has conceptually been appropriated to other contexts? Sources organizational paradigm here Other contexts' 1 2 3 4
    • ALT1:... that ... that the phrase "FIFO" — an organizational paradigm — has conceptually been appropriated to other contexts?

Created/expanded by 7&6=thirteen (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 14 October 2017 (UTC). 7&6=thirteen () 16:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, expansion and hook all OK. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Sometimes I feel this paradigm is being applied to me elsewhere on the project. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
While we're not censored, we also shouldn't be dropping the f-bomb on the main page. ~ Rob13Talk 16:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Fixed Good suggestion. Edited hook to fix. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 17:05, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I will just point out WP:NOTCENSORED and cite precident of us running Fucking Hell and Fuck It, We'll Do It Live on DYK before. Plus its probably more hooky as well to use it in full rather than the acronym. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm good with either door #1 (as I originally proposed it) or door #2 (AlT1 as I modified it). Chacun à son goût. 7&6=thirteen () 20:48, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

User:Penbat should be on this DYK. my error. Please add as a cocreator. Thank you 7&6=thirteen () 22:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I've added Penbat as a co-creator. I support the promoter to go with ALT1, as the usage of "fuck" is highly dependent on the context. "Fuck off" is unnecessary offensive and personal in comparison to "fucking hell" or "fuck it". Alex ShihTalk 01:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I beg to differ. ALT1 seems to be unacceptable because it's contrary to WP:EASTEREGG, "Do not use piped links to create "Easter egg" links, that require the reader to open them before understanding what's going on.". FIFO, as an acronym, more commonly means first-in; first-out. Using it in this obfuscatory way would also be contrary to WP:EUPHEMISM. I'm not convinced that this is really a different topic from conformity but if the phrase really has a separate meaning then we should use it fully so that the reader is not taken by surprise. Andrew D. (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
I was simply trying to address concerns expressed above.
Parenthetically, I do not see any mention of abbreviations at Template:Did you know nominations/Uniform Distribution and Accreditation Centre. Maybe it is elsewhere.
But I defer to the reviewers.7&6=thirteen () 19:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 9

Grupo Garza Ponce

  • ... that Mexican construction firm Grupo Garza Ponce created the first private industrial park in Nuevo León, Mexico? Source: "Spanish: Ya desde la década de los ochentas, el Grupo GP fue pionero al desarrollar el primer parque industrial privado en Nuevo León" / English: "In the 1980s, the GP Group was a pioneer and developed the first private industrial park in Nuevo Leon" (Milenio)

5x expanded by MX (talk). Self-nominated at 14:29, 10 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This is a prime example of an article that should never have gone to AfD and which has since been improved substantially by MX. Great job! It is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are sourced inline and the article is neutral. I do not speak Spanish well enough to check for copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I do think you can do better with this hook. If you could provide a cite for being "one of the largest construction firms in Mexico", I would suggest:
  • ALT1: ... that Grupo Garza Ponce, now one of the largest construction firms in Mexico, had to change its business model every month during the 1982 debt crisis?
  • Or:
  • ALT2: ... that in 2013 Grupo Garza Ponce built the first Tadao Ando Japanese architecture construction in Mexico? Yoninah (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I love ALT1! The "largest" claim is found in the last sentence of paragraph 2 of section "2011–2015". El Norte stated that Grupo Garza Ponce was the eighth largest construction firm in Mexico and one of the most important ones in northern Mexico (source: Grupo GP es la octava constructora más grande del País ... y una de las más importantes en el norte del País). MX () 23:59, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Great, I'm glad that's all sourced. Since I wrote ALT1, I'm calling on another reviewer to approve it. Pinging @Cwmhiraeth:. Yoninah (talk) 00:08, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Approving ALT1 which is well-cited. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:11, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Coral disease

Black band disease on brain coral
Black band disease on brain coral
  • ... that many coral diseases, such as black band disease (pictured), are named after their main symptom?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date, hook checks out. QPQ done. Photo on Commons. Close paraphrase not found. --Soman (talk) 11:17, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

St. Johns, Ontario

St. Johns Common School is the oldest extant public school in Ontario
St. Johns Common School is the oldest extant public school in Ontario
  • ... that St. Johns Common School, established in St. Johns, Ontario, in 1803, is the oldest extant public school in the province, and is still used occasionally as a classroom?[11][12][13] Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that the one-room schoolhouse established in 1803 in St. Johns, Ontario, is the oldest extant public school in Ontario, and is still sometimes used as a classroom? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Magnolia677 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:53, 9 October 2017 (UTC).

  • hook ok, I prefer alt1, but both are fine. Sourcing checked. I'mnot sure bout the pdf links, but it looks like it's properly done. Symbol confirmed.svg auntieruth (talk) 16:24, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@Auntieruth55: Thanks for reviewing the article. This is a better source to support the hook. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg auntieruth, please do a full review that explicitly covers all the DYK criteria. What you wrote above covers the hooks and their sourcing, and possibly the article sourcing as well. You have not covered whether the article is new enough, long and/or expanded enough, neutral, free from copyvio and close paraphrasing, whether Magnolia677 has enough DYK credits that a quid pro quo (QPQ) review is requested, and whether the image provided for this nomination is both free and properly licensed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:13, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 10

Schizomyia viticola

S. viticola galls on a Vitis sp. leaf.
S. viticola galls on a Vitis sp. leaf.
  • ... that although the gall midge Schizomyia viticola can produce up to 135 galls (pictured) on a single grape vine leaf, the plant is not harmed? Source: "The galls are usually very numerous upon a leaf, as many as 135 occurring on one taken here in Augsut 1897: but though they may be found very thick upon a few leaves, I find no record of their ever having been very injurious."[14]
    • ALT1:... that the gall midge Schizomyia viticola produces red or green conical-shaped galls (pictured) on grape vines? Source: "Grape-vine tube gall [...] Narrow, elongated or conical. Green or bright red. In numbers on upper side of the leaves of wild grapes." [15]
  • Reviewed: Not needed yet, this is my 4th nomination

Created by Umimmak (talk). Self-nominated at 16:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article meets the age and length criteria. No plagiarism or POV issues detected. QPQ not needed. Both the hook facts are interesting, within limits and cited to reliable sources in the article's main body. Article text uses at least one inline citation per paragraph. Personally, I feel that the 1st hook is more interesting than the 2nd one. Good to go. --Skr15081997 (talk) 06:17, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 11

Madagascan sandgrouse

  • ... that the adult Madagascan sandgrouse may soak its breast feathers in water to carry moisture to its young? Source: "assumed thus to soak breast feathers with water, to be brought to young at nests far away."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Confirmed article expanded 5x in last 7 days and is neutral. Paraphrasing not a problem as I confirmed with the available Google Books excerpt from the source primarily used in this article. Hook confirmed in the same way. QPQ confirmed. --TorsodogTalk 15:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 12

Andrea Lorenzo Scartazzini

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:41, 19 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Meets the length and age criteria. No POV or plagiarism detected. QPQ has been provided. The section heading can be changed to its English equivalent and the 2nd para needs a citation at the end. The hook fact is present in the article and cited to appropriate sources. --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg thanks a lot. Good to go now. --Skr15081997 (talk) 05:40, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Colorado potato beetle

Adult beetles
Adult beetles
  • ... that the Colorado potato beetle (pictured) has developed resistance to all major classes of insecticide? Source: "Although additional insecticides were developed and deployed over the past thirty years, the insect has with increasing rapiodity become resistant to all of them."

Improved to Good Article status by Zakhx150 (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 08:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - n Each paragraph should have at least one citation at the end
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - n " Known mechanisms of Colorado potato beetle" - the whole sentence is a direct quote. Please reword. In Taxonomy, "The Colorado potato beetle..." is also almost a direct quote from this site. "There is also some evidence of behavioral resistance" is also a direct quote from the cited article.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The page itself clarifies that not every population of the beetle is resistant to every chemical. I believe that "Colorado potato beetle" includes all those populations, and that the hook is fine. I thought that the way the beetle laid unviable eggs in response to a predator was also really interesting, and also that flamethrowers are used in insect control. I spot-checked sources. Thanks for the interesting read! Just those citation problems. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:30, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Rachel Helps (BYU): I have rewritten the offending sentences so I hope it is OK now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:17, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I have also added a reference to the Taxonomy section, but not at the end. It's not my article and I don't know my way round its taxonomy. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg @Cwmhiraeth: I added some references too. I wasn't sure what to do with the checklist template, since this is my first time using it, so I left it how it was initially. I think it's good to go now. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Cerebratulus marginatus

  • ... that the ribbon worm Cerebratulus marginatus can swim well by undulating its body? Source: "Cerebratulus marginatus is able to swim actively with strong dorsoventral undulatory movements."

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ done, new enough, in time, free of copyright problems, long enough, source checks out, hook is interesting. This is good to go.  FITINDIA  09:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Karam Singh

  • ... that Karam Singh was the first Sikh and the first non-posthumous recipient of the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest military decoration? Source: The Hindu
    • ALT1:... that Karam Singh was the first non-posthumous recipient of the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest military decoration? Source: Same as above
    • ALT2:... that Karam Singh was the first Sikh recipient of the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest military decoration? Source: Same as above

Improved to Good Article status by Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk). Self-nominated at 15:41, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This newly promoted GA meets the DYK requirements for length and nomination date. I expect that all the hooks are correct, but I am approving just ALT1, the facts for this being explicitly covered in the source. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Birthday card

A handmade birthday card President Obama recieved from a group of interns in 2009.
A handmade birthday card President Obama recieved from a group of interns in 2009.
  • Comment: Suggest we hold this one for the Wikipedia Birthday on January 15. Note: special occasion hooks can only be held for six weeks; January 15 is unfortunately over twice that time period and will not be possible. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Created by Sadads (talk). Self-nominated at 01:43, 12 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article has had a 5x expansion (1657 character prose) starting October 12 and was DYK'd the following day, thus nomination is on schedule. It's well-written and observes neutral, encyclopedic language. No major copyvio detected by the Earwig Tool, and I must assume good faith for the sources retrieved offline, which also have inline citations - please fix the parameter error in ref. 2, though. Images used are licensed, and the one's in the hook is in the article. OPQ has been attended to. The hook is interesting though I amended it slightly for grammar and use of contractions per MOS:N'T. Overall, looks good. Slightlymad 07:34, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 13

Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl

  • Reviewed: Teté Puebla
  • Comment: suitable for Reformation Day, 31 October

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article created on 13 October. Written in dispassionate tone, its text is supported by at least one inline citation per paragraph. QPQ has been provided. The hook fact is interesting, within limit, present in the article and checks out with the given citation. Good to go for 31 October. --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

White plague (coral disease)

  • ... that white plague, a disease affecting corals, may be two or more diseases with similar symptoms?
    • ALT1:... that precisely what pathogen causes white plague in corals is unclear?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article created on 13 October. No POV or plagiarism issue detected. Article text is supported by at least one inline citation per paragraph. QPQ has been provided. Both the hook facts are interesting, within limits and cited in the article's main body. Good to Go. --Skr15081997 (talk) 06:41, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Ughill Hall shootings

Created by DrStrauss (talk). Self-nominated at 15:59, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New Reviewer Dysklyver 19:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol voting keep.svg I agree with Dysklyver that this article meets the DYK criteria. Although this article is not a BLP, previous DYK discussion shows that the hook should not concentrate unduly on negatives aspects of the perpetrator. For this reason, I am approving ALT3 as being the most suitable for use. As an aside, is this statement "French police filed an extradition request to send Wood back to the United Kingdom for prosecution" really correct? I would expect the British authorities to be filing an extradition request, not the French. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:16, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

First Battle of Dernancourt

Stan McDougall
Stan McDougall
  • ... that Sergeant Stanley McDougall (pictured) was awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions during the First Battle of Dernancourt...? Source: Bean, C.E.W. (1937). The Australian Imperial Force in France, during the Main German Offensive, 1918. Official History of Australia in the War of 1914–1918. 5 (1 ed.), pp. 195–198

Improved to Good Article status by Peacemaker67 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Article was upgrade to GA in past 7 days; it is long enough and has adequate references (though most sources are off-line) with no evidence of plagiarism; hook facts have in-line citations; hook is appropriate length supported by off-line reference taken in good faith. Photo is Public Domain (via Australia government Crown Copyright).--Orygun (talk) 02:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This is a nice image for the main page, but the hook is rather commonplace. Perhaps you could jazz it up by saying what he did to get the Victoria Cross? Yoninah (talk) 23:01, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Yes, thank you, that's a lot better! Offline ALT1 hook ref AGF and cited inline. Rest of review per Orygun. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:15, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

The Ridiculously Self-Indulgent, Ill-Advised Vanity Tour

Created by PhilipTerryGraham (talk). Self-nominated at 05:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough and new enough. Where is it said that VH1 Storytellers and MTV Unplugged play any role? I also don't see "flexible" and the like mentioned anywhere. It seems like the ticket price is 49.5$ and not 49$. And Medium Rarities isn't mentioned either. The "tour dates" section and infobox is unsourced. No copyvio or plagiarism that I can see. ALT1 is more interesting. QPQ is done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Yankovic's official Facebook post is embedded in the first two citations, where most of the material for "Staging" comes from. It's a way to cite Yankovic's words without linking to Facebook directly as a citation. Medium Rarities is the feature on Squeeze Box that focuses on older and lesser-known material, in which this particular tour will be based around. As for your other concerns, they have been fixed. Prices have been rounded up, since one should round up from .50, not down, and tour dates have been cited using two citations, one existing and one new. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 21:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 14

Orange-backed troupial

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:59, 19 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Recently expanded article. No POV or plagiarism issue detected. QPQ has been provided. Meets the one inline citation per paragraph criterion. The hook fact is interesting, within limit, present in the article and supported by credible sources. Good to Go. --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Ashley Hatch

5x expanded by Hmlarson (talk). Self-nominated at 08:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Expansion confirmed, no obvious copyvio, and looks in a decent condition regarding referencing, MOS, etc. Hooks are suitably interesting, might you consider being clearer on how she helped them win the shield (i.e. 7 goals in 24 games) or would you prefer to remain vague about it? If the former, then I'd amend ALT 1, if the latter then I'd go with the original hook. Let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man: She was named Rookie of the Year yesterday. I added this to the article, re-worked the lead and am proposing ALT 2 as the hook. Let me know what you think. Hmlarson (talk) 03:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Lazar Bach

  • ... that Latvian-born Lazar Bach became chair of the Communist Party of South Africa, but died in a Gulag? Source: Donald F. Busky, Communism in History and Theory: Asia, Africa, and the Americas, p.136 and Ed. Apollon B. Davidson et al, South Africa and the Communist International: Volume 1, pp.18-20

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self-nominated at 22:28, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article was created on 14 October. No POV or plagiarism issue detected. QPQ has been provided and the article meets the one inline citation per paragraph criterion. The hook fact is interesting, within limit and cited in the article's main body. Good to Go. --Skr15081997 (talk) 07:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

1973 Belmont Stakes

  • ... that Secretariat won by 31 lengths in the 1973 Belmont Stakes, the largest margin of victory in the history of the race? Source: "... chopping more than a bitesize chunk off the Belmont Stakes record and winning by 31 lengths."
    • ALT1:... that the winning time in the 1973 Belmont Stakes was an American record for a mile and a half? Source: "His time of 2:24 for 1 1/2 miles set a world record many argue may never be broken."

Improved to Good Article status by Disc Wheel (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 13:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Detailed article full of aspects, well sourced, no copyvio obvious. Too bad we can't have an image. Both facts are stunning! If you want to go with the original, try to change the order, or people will arrive at the horse. For the ALT1, I'd say that this record is still unbroken. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I could add "which still stands today" to ALT1, but that claim is risky and I suggest we forget about it. How about ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Altan Xire

  • ... that Altan Xire the main township of a rural county in Inner Mongolia has an extensive urban skyline?
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Muzzleflash (talk). Self-nominated at 21:53, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg While the article technically meets DYK guidelines on newness, length, sourcing, plagiarism, QPQ, etc., it doesn't seem that comprehensive: there's no information about the township's early history, for example. There are also some writing issues: "square km" could be abbreviated, "#172" could instead be written as 172th or something to that effect, and contractions like "hasn't" which is discouraged in articles. These issues however should be relatively easy to fix. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I made 3 of the minor changes you suggested. On the topic of early history, I'm afraid this is a difficult request as before the boom this place was literally a postage stamp sized town with a few buses, only known as a reference point for getting to the Mausoleum of Genghis to its south. So I leave it to future contributors to add early history. Muzzleflash (talk) 14:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
In that case, Symbol voting keep.svg. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Arago hotspot

Îles Maria
Îles Maria

Moved to mainspace by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article length and age good and within policy. Well referenced article and hook is good with image meeting requirements. Hmlarson (talk) 08:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Robert Traill (clergyman)

  • ... that Robert Traill was featured in an episode of Victoria, written by his great-great-great-granddaughter Daisy Goodwin? Source:"Dr Robert Traill ... was a real historical figure - and the great-great-great-grandfather of Victoria's writer Daisy Goodwin." [18]

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 11:34, 14 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources with inline citations. I AGF for offline text not accessible by me. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports 38.3% and 35.5% similarities in two sources, however, those are quotes mostly. Hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate and is cited inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 06:22, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 15

Dysommina rugosa

  • ... that Eel City is a popular residence for cutthroat eels? Source: "the crevices at this site are occupied by thriving aggregations of cutthroat (synaphobranchid) eels that swarm in the water column when the submersible touches the sea floor."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg 0.0% chance of copyvio, hook is cited, article is long and new enough, QPQ is done. Of the two, I think ALT1 is more interesting (gets to the point faster). Smurrayinchester 14:21, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Carillon and Grenville Railway

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 13:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg on ALT1; Symbol question.svg on first hook. New enough, created day of nomination. 7x long enough. Article is written in neutral manner, with an inline source our sources for each paragraph. No copyvio issues detected by Earwig or myself. The hooks are within format, and each are directly cited within the article proper. QPQ complete. No image to check against. The problem with the original hook is that the source says the railroad was the last Canadian broad gauge. I have no reason to doubt the statement that it was the last North American broad gauge, but I can't find the source supports it. Where does the source say the last broad gauge in the USA, or Mexico, or the Bahamas was? The ALT1 hook is directly supported by the source. Frankly, I like it better for a general audience. I have no doubt that "broad gauge" will have railfans drooling, but I think "shortest railway" will catch the general interest better. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Jean Ginsburg

  • ... that Jean Ginsburg established one of the first clinics in Britain for menopausal women? Source: "set up one of the first menopause clinics in Britain"

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough (created 15 October, nominated 16 October), long enough (2308 characters), is neutrally worded, copyright free (as per Earwig's Copyvio Detector), and cited inline. The hook is formatted correctly, interesting, and cited inline. There is no image and QPQ has been done. Good to go! Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 15:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 16

1982 Bristow Helicopters Bell 212 crash

  • ... that the 1982 Bristow Helicopters Bell 212 crash was one of three fatal helicopter accidents Bristow Helicopters suffered in little more than a year in the North Sea? Source: "A former Labour Cabinet Minister, Mr David Ennals, yesterday repeated his call for a full inquiry by the Trade Department into helicopter safety after a third Bristow helicotper in 13 months crashed in the North Sea early yesterday," McLain, Lynton. "UK News: Helicopter safety call". Financial Times (15 September 1982).

Created/expanded by Eggishorn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:44, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New article (moved from user space on 16 October). Plenty long enough. Hook looks fine. QPQ doesn't seem to be needed in this case. I have some comments, but they don't prevent me from ticking this now, so they are for @Eggishorn's consideration:
    • Perhaps the hook could link to Bristow Helicopters rather than saying 'that company", and maybe also North Sea.
    • As this is a UK-related article, shouldn't it use British English (particularly for dates)?
    • "to 40 at that time." - from when to when?
    • Are the names of the people involved known / could they be added to the article?
    • More background on the aircraft (when was it built, how old at the accident, what else had it been used for) would be good.
    • I think the photo at File:G-BDIL Bell 212 BEAS CVT 03-07-77 (37111557166).jpg is of the helicopter involved - is that right, and if so why not use that?
  • Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Mike Peel:, thank you for the comments. I have edited the hook as suggested. As to the type of English, I am from New England rather than Old England so I wrote it using the spellings and such I am comfortable with instead of trusting my haphazard understanding of proper British English, but I would obviously not object to bringing it in line with MOS:ENGVAR. Accident reports from the Accidents Investigation Branch at this time apparently did not include names of the aircrew and I could not find them in any contemporary newspapers. There is airframe information available and I can add it to the article. I thank you for finding the correct aircraft and will swap it in for the current image; I'm a bit embarrassed I did not find it myself. Thanks again for the help. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Eggishorn: Thanks for listening to the feedback. I can copyedit it to British English if you'd like, otherwise I think it's OK to stay as it is. Looking back at the image, it was only uploaded earlier this month, so perhaps it's just a good timing coincidence. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Mike Peel:, please do! I've added the image and the aircraft information so I'm done editing for now. Thanks again. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Eggishorn: Done. Can you confirm that the relevant timezone is UT please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:43, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Mike Peel:, technically, they are GMT but they are equivalent for this application so UTC is fine. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Death of Victoria Martens

Created by WereWolf (talk). Self-nominated at 15:49, 9 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Comment: striking ALT1 as a violation of WP:BLP, since the mother has not been convicted of the murder. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Oh ok! Sorry WereWolf (talk) 21:11, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I was going to review this article but I am uneasy about it. The first sentence states "On August 24, 2016, ten-year-old Victoria Martens was killed by three people, including her mother, in Albuquerque, New Mexico." Does Wikipedia have a policy about this sort of article where a crime appears to have been committed and suspects charged, but they have not yet been convicted? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:02, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Cwmhiraeth, the policy is WP:BLPCRIME, which makes sentences like that a definite problem. Your review should certainly take it into account, and the article should probably be tagged (no idea what the template would be, though). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:02, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. I have edited the opening sentence of the article that I mentioned above, and I now think the article is neutral. The hook facts have an inline citation and I detected no copyright issues. I do not believe a QPQ review is necessary. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this hook following complaints on WT:DYK and WP:BLPN. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:14, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
    • Am I allowed to write and submit another hook on this page? I apologize I am still new to this format this is my third DYK nomination. WereWolf (talk) 17:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, please submit one or more alternative hooks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:20, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
*ALT3 ...that the murder of Victoria Martens occurred one year ago this month in Albuquerque, New Mexico? WereWolf (talk) 18:17, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment the article title has changed to Death of Victoria Martens I am resubmitting the previous three hooks with the new title name.

Milli Fire

Milli Fire air drop
Milli Fire air drop
Milli Fire
Milli Fire
Milli Fire smoke
Milli Fire smoke

Source: On 28 September, a Bend Bulletin article reported the Milli Fire had burned 24,079 acres (97.44 km2). Most of the sources mention the fire being in the Three Sisters Wilderness. Here’s an example from a Bend Bulletin article dated 22 Aug 2017: “The Milli Fire near Sisters is burning westward in the Three Sisters Wilderness … the Milli Fire was most active on the north side of Black Crater and was observed burning downhill near Lava Lake camp and North Matthieu Lake, all in the Three Sisters Wilderness.”

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 02:18, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Hook looks good, I have bolded it as per norm. I have to say I am not sure the image used is the most appropriate. I would prefer the image used in the infobox or this image. The article is long enough and well-sourced, as well as being new enough. I'm not satisfied with the image sourcing, links should be provided to the individual image and not the gallery. Jon Kolbert (talk) 03:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Added the two recommended images above for comparison; also as recommended, changed image sources to reference individual on-line images vice using Forest Service photo image page.--Orygun (talk) 06:00, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks for improving the image sourcing. I prefer the third image, but I see no problems with using either the second or third image. Jon Kolbert (talk) 16:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg @Jon Kolbert: you should provide a review that explicitly confirms that the five main DYK criteria have been met. So far you have covered newness, length, and sourcing. Please also indicate whether the article meets inline hook cite, neutrality, and close paraphrasing criteria. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 17

Topolnița Cave

  • ... that Topolnița Cave is home to the largest colony of greater horseshoe bats in Europe...? Source: [19] "...final count yielded 7,482 greater horseshoe bats. This number means that the colony is by far the largest aggregation of this species in Europe..."

Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 22:53, 17 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The length, hook, content and sourcing is all okay. The article was created 9 days prior to the nomination but was substantially added to a week before, so I would argue for bending the "seven days" rule. The only guideline this fails is that the hook sentence needs to have a citation at the end of it. Could the paragraph with the hook sentence in be reworded to have the hook at the end? I would suggest something like:
Due to the relatively high temperature of the cave, it is a suitable habitat for some fauna. A 2015 survey conducted as part of an effort to protect Romania's bats found 7,485 individual greater horseshoe bats living in the cave, which makes it home to the largest colony of greater horseshoe bats in Europe.
or, simply repeat the citations at the end of both sentences. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 12:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
It was created as a draft and then moved into mainspace, so the nomination date is correct per the DYK guidelines. I fixed the other issue. ♠PMC(talk) 20:25, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I completely missed that little detail. Symbol confirmed.svg good to go. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 21:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


  • ... that Baloke, a small village in Punjab, India, is the birthplace of Satnam Singh Bhamara - the first Indian to be drafted into the NBA? Source:http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/draft-winds-sweep-satnam-singh-bhamras-dusty-village-ballo-ke/http://www.thehindu.com/sport/other-sports/satnam-singh-gets-drafted-in-nba/article7359269.ece

Created by Fitindia (talk). Self-nominated at 16:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new, long enough, no copyvio issues. The hook is well-cited and interesting although I would adjust the hook slightly to read like this :
  • ALT1: ... that Baloke, a small village in Punjab, India, is the birthplace of Satnam Singh Bhamara - the first Indian to be drafted into the National Basketball Association?Source:http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/draft-winds-sweep-satnam-singh-bhamras-dusty-village-ballo-ke/http://www.thehindu.com/sport/other-sports/satnam-singh-gets-drafted-in-nba/article7359269.ece
  • Writing "National Basketball Association" in full is better as not everyone knows what the NBA could be referring to. Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jon Kolbert: yes I think ALT1 is better. Thank you.  FITINDIA  15:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg @Fitindia: Perfect. QPQ done, hook is good to go. Jon Kolbert (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Big-fish-little-pond effect

5x expanded by AttackMoose22 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:27, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Approving this nomination which was not properly transcluded in April. The article is a fivefold expansion and is long enough. The hook facts are sourced, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 18

Calgary White Hat

  • ... that instead of giving the keys to the city to visiting dignitaries, the mayor of Calgary "white hats" them? Source: "The Cowtown equivalent of offering the keys to the city, the tradition of "white-hatting" stretches back to the 1950s, when a Calgary mayor with a flair for showmanship invented a way to welcome notables to the city by perching the indelible symbol of the Stampede atop their heads" ( Postmedia News)
  • ALT1: ... that Prince Philip was "white hatted" three times? Source: "...the Duke of Edinburgh already had two white hats from the city and a third might be superfluous for his upcoming visit...When Rod proceeded with the white-hat presentation Calgary had somehow become famous for, a shivering Queen's Consort declared, "Not another one." ( Marshall, p. 233)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Reinforcement (speciation)

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 20:21, 18 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Almost there, everything checks out: newness, length, sourcing, no plagiarism, QPQ. Just a question though: is it correct in Canadian English not to have commas preceding phrases that come after years? For example: "In 1983 the Calgary White Hat", "In 1950 new mayor of Calgary Donald Hugh Mackay", "In 1969 Prince Philip", etc. (also note that even the article is inconsistent, there's "In 1948, 250 Calgary Stampeders fans"). And speaking of the mention of Mackay, shouldn't it be "In 1950, the (then?)-new mayor of Calgary Donald Hugh Mackay", or even simply "In 1950, Calgary mayor Donald Hugh Mackay"? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for your review. As I'm not familiar with Canadian English, I didn't know about the commas, but I added them and fixed the first mention of Mackay. BTW you're also allowed to make these changes to an article before you pass it. Yoninah (talk) 14:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg In any case, this should be good to go. I prefer ALT0 as it actually describes what "white hatting" is, as opposed to the more vague Prince Philip hook. Anyway, would you like to add an image to this nomination? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Monterey Bay Aquarium

A great white shark at the aquarium in 2006
A great white shark at the aquarium in 2006
  • ... that Monterey Bay Aquarium is the only public aquarium that has successfully exhibited a great white shark (pictured) for more than 16 days? Source: "In 2004, it acquired a shark that became the first great white to survive in captivity for more than 16 days. In fact, it was on display for more than six months" from Vox (URL) + "and no one's done it since" (from video at 59 seconds). SF Chronicle reported it many times as they occurred (see footnotes here, here, here).
  • Comment: ALT1 is if the video quote in the first hook is too much of a stretch, but there were a few online articles that got passed around in 2016 discussing the same, like this Vice one.
  • Comment: ALT2 and ALT3 are just other options to use without the picture, but I'm sure the shark ones are "hookier"?

Improved to Good Article status by Rhinopias (talk). Self-nominated at 15:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC).

Will review this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Need sleep before doing so, but a comment: get the 3 storeys to the kelp forest, and that image. I confess that the shark image is not great in stamp size, and I fear that animal lovers may object. The image of the sunfish is clearer than the shark, I'd think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Monterey Bay Aquarium's Kelp Forest exhibit
Monterey Bay Aquarium's Kelp Forest exhibit
I agree the shark image isn't perfectly visible, but I do think it's at least recognizable. (It's difficult to find a CC picture of a shark they had on display.) If a kelp forest hook is chosen over a shark one so that an image can be included I'm all for it, but I don't know if fear of offending any "animal lovers" is an appropriate rejection, as no one should be offended by a beneficial animal-related endeavor led by experts. :} If a hook about the sunfish is desired, I could incorporate into the article an eye-popping weight of one of the aquarium's past sunfish, but currently it just mentions they display them. But here's a hook incorporating the height of the kelp forest:
ALT4:... that Monterey Bay Aquarium was the first public aquarium to exhibit a living kelp forest (pictured), and it's nearly three stories tall?
Is that decently visible? – Rhinopias (talk) 23:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
That image is good! I was there ;) - Will go read now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Substantial Good article on plenty of excellent sources, engagingly written and well illustrated! No copyvio obvious. The kelp forest image is licensed, and eye-catching even in small size. "Kelp" seems also to match better than a shark the line: "The aquarium is known for its regional focus on Monterey Bay and its display of marine life communities rather than individual species". - 5 of the (well-organized) refs in #38 and #39 are not used. Fix that and then go for FA, seriously ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Boston Irish Famine Memorial

Boston Irish Famine Memorial
Boston Irish Famine Memorial
  • ... that the Boston Irish Famine Memorial (pictured) was described as a "magnet for vagrants and pigeons" in 2013? Source: The two statues and eight narrative plaques deserve better than their current fate as magnets for vagrants and pigeons.
    • ALT1:... that the Boston Irish Famine Memorial (pictured) was the site of a January 2017 protest against US President Donald Trump's crackdown on undocumented immigrants? Source: After President Trump launched a crackdown on undocumented immigrants, protesters took to the streets of Boston on Thursday ... more than 100 demonstrators gathered in front of the Irish Famine Memorial in Downtown Crossing, where they vowed to push back against Trump’s controversial executive orders
    • ALT2: ... that in 2013 the Irish Famine Memorial (pictured) was described as "the most mocked and reviled public sculpture in Boston"? Source: according to my own informal poll, the most mocked and reviled public sculpture in Boston: Robert Shure’s 1998 Boston Irish Famine Memorial

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg New, length OK, cited, no copyvio. Hook, fine (if not what I would have chosen, maybe gone with least liked public art.) Is there a problem w/ QPQ? Djflem (talk) 20:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I have added ALT2, if you prefer that? I don't know what the issue is at the QPQ but i have asked the nominator - Dumelow (talk) 22:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@Djflem, all sorted over at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year now - Dumelow (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg All seems in order. Added coord template. Both hooks are fine; prefer the 2nd, but not big issue.Djflem (talk) 19:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year

Williams at Wimbledon in 2016
Williams at Wimbledon in 2016
  • ... that Serena Williams (pictured) has won the Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year three times, first in 2003 and most recently in 2016? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 14:42, 18 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg In excess of 5x expansion in prose on 18 October; character count sufficient; article is well written and well sourced; no noticeable copyright violations; hook is sufficiently interesting and within length; QPQ done. However I think there is an error in the hook and the article. The source and the article seem to confirm that Serena won the award three times (2003, 2010, 2016). Could you check and correct if appropriate? - Dumelow (talk) 19:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good to me now. If the photo is used then (pictured) needs to be added - Dumelow (talk) 19:41, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Ah, but did you check the QPQ??? Hmmmm... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
TRM, not sure what you mean? Your QPQ at Template:Did you know nominations/Ashley Hatch has been reviewed. You are waiting for the nominator to come back to you on their preferred hook, but I don't think that'll be a major issue. - Dumelow (talk) 22:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
";)". The Rambling Man (talk) 05:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

October 26 (Day of funeral)

Thai royal funeral

Thai royal cremation pyre
Thai royal cremation pyre
  • ... that the cremation pyres built for Thai royal funerals (example pictured) symbolize Mount Meru, the Hindu centre of the universe? Source: "Built to represent Mount Meru, the center of the Hindu universe, it will embody the highest of Thai arts and architecture..." (NYT)
    • ALT1:... that the royal cremation ceremony for the late Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej (example of cremation pyre pictured) takes place today? Source: "Thursday, 26 October, will be the royal cremation day and it has been declared a public holiday." (Public Relations Department)
  • Reviewed: Damnoen Saduak floating market
  • Comment: Sorry, this is a little over a day late; I hope it's still okay under supplementary rule D9. Please consider ALT1 together with a date request for 26 October.

Created by Paul 012 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:15, 2 October 2017 (UTC).

Thai royal funeral chariot
  • Please also consider this image (to the right) for ALT1. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:20, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
    • I'd forgotten about the image-appearing-in-the-article requirement. Never mind this one. I've modified ALT1 to use the same picture. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough (1 day late not an issue), long enough, and no copyvio issues. For citations, you could use a citation in the "Royal Funeral Chariots" section, and the first paragraphs of the "Funeral Processions" and "Cremation" sections. I recommend the first hook because it 1) is more interesting and 2) contains a clearer image. The image for the hook looks good, but it needs to be included in the article too. My only other comment is that I'm not sure if the glossary section is appropriate. Would you be able to instead link to the relevent wiktionary pages throughout the article? Looking for a second opinion here because I'm not familiar with glossary sections here. --NoGhost (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
    • Current lead image
      Citations added. The image shows pretty much the same view as the current lead image in the article, which is higher quality, but due to its wider crop and less direct lighting wouldn't be as suitable as a DYK thumbnail. I could replace the lead image until it appears on DYK and switch it back later, but that would seem like using a loophole to circumvent the rules while not really improving the article. I'll ask on the DYK talk page for more input, but personally I think this is a case where WP:IAR could apply. As for glossary sections, they are expressly mentioned as an appropriate use of lists at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Embedded lists. I think that having the relevant terms covered here is better than offloading the content to Wiktionary, as the explanations can be more specific to the context (rather than mere dictionary definitions), and it's easier for the reader to access. (Almost none of the terms here currently exist on Wiktionary, by the way.) --Paul_012 (talk) 05:09, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
      • Great, thanks for the citations and the link to policy for glossaries. Looks good to me now. For the picture, I agree that the suggested DYK picture works better in small format. I suggest inserting it into the article perhaps after the historic photo of King Mongkut's cremation pyre where it fits with the article content decribing Mount Meru.--NoGhost (talk) 16:18, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
        • Okay, I've tried to fix the image artifact a bit, and substituted it as the lead image. (Didn't think having two photos of the same subject was warranted, given the availability of other pictures.) --Paul_012 (talk) 13:52, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
          • Symbol confirmed.svg I see no issue with including both images, one for general context and the other in reference to Mount Meru. But this works too, the nom should be ready to go now! --NoGhost (talk) 21:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Moved to special holding area for use on October 26. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

October 31 (Halloween) and 500 years Reformation

Halloween card

An early 1900s Halloween card
An early 1900s Halloween card
  • ... that the United States experienced a Halloween "postcard craze" (example card pictured) in the early 1900s? Source: "Newspapers and magazines first surged with larger, more numerous spreads on the history, celebration, and selling of Halloween during the late nineteenth century, the “postcard craze” of the first decade and a half of the twentieth century, and Bogie Books – first published in 1909 – saw their heyday during the 1920s and into the 1930s until their culmination in 1933." (from Weird old figures and a new twist: Cultural functions of Halloween at the turn of the 20th century by Rebecca Williams, May 2017)
    • ALT1:... that early Halloween cards depicted many themes, including romance and courtship? Source: "The postcards of Halloween for the most part are extremely colorful and well done. The history portrayed on the cards relate to the past importance of the time as being a major step in courtship which would lead to a successful marriage..." (from Postcard Collector by Barbara Andrews, 2012. ISBN 9781440234989, pg 106.)

Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 17:47, 1 October 2017 (UTC).

  • QPQ Reviewed: article is long enough, nicely done, and sourced. I like both links, and would combined them if not too long. auntieruth (talk) 00:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I'd prefer to keep the hook as short as possible, though. Mindmatrix 12:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Date and length OK. AGF on offline source. I personally prefer ALT1 as Halloween card appears to be the proper name. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing, picture licence fine. Good to go for All Hallow's Eve. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Note that the modern term is "Halloween card", but the original cards were all postcards. Mindmatrix 12:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost

Johannes Gigas
Johannes Gigas
  • Reviewed: AirTrain JFK
  • Comment: suitable for Reformation Day, 31 October

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Creation from redir date, length, hook checks out. Image on Commons. QPQ done. --Soman (talk) 11:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

November 5 (Singer's birthday)

Konomi Suzuki

  • ... that Konomi Suzuki was inspired by the character Sheryl Nome from Macross Frontier to become a singer for anime? Source: Bertschy, Zac (July 19, 2017). "Interview: Konomi Suzuki". Anime News Network. Retrieved October 5, 2017. 
    • ALT1:... that Japanese singer Konomi Suzuki will play the lead character in the upcoming anime series Lost Song? Source: "MAGES. Reveals Lost Song Original TV Anime Starring Konomi Suzuki, Yukari Tamura". Anime News Network. January 10, 2017. Retrieved February 13, 2017. 
    • ALT2:... that Japanese singer Konomi Suzuki, who won the 2011 Animax All-Japan Anisong Grand Prix, had applied for the previous year's edition, but failed to qualify? Source: "鈴木このみが語る、アニソンを歌う醍醐味と自身のルーツ「自分の中の可能性を広げられている」". Realsound.jp. May 11, 2016. Retrieved October 5, 2017. 
    • ALT3:... that the name of the 20th birthday concert of Japanese singer Konomi Suzuki was meant to convey a message of "thank you" to her fans? Source: "鈴木このみインタビュー 20歳のバースデーライブは「ありがとうをちゃんと伝える内容にしたい」". Eplus.jp (in Japanese). October 14, 2016. Retrieved October 5, 2017. 
    • ALT4:... that the title of Japanese singer Konomi Suzuki's album Lead was based on the idea of her becoming a new person after her 20th birthday? Source: "20歳になった新しい“鈴木このみの第二章”がスタート!今のモードを語るロングインタビュー!". Disk Garage. May 1, 2017. Retrieved October 5, 2017. 

Improved to Good Article status by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) and Msonnyandrean (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 16:40, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

  • Promoted to GA on October 13 so long enough and within policy parameters. The first choice hook is the appropriate length and probably the best because it draws on references that would be more familiar to English speaking readers. This is ready. Symbol confirmed.svg Muzzleflash (talk) 09:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
@Muzzleflash: Thanks for the review. Would request though that this be moved to the special holding area though, per the request above. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

November 11 (centennial date of her death


Queen Liliuokalani
Queen Liliuokalani
  • ... that when Queen Liliuokalani (pictured) died on November 11, 1917, her body was not moved from her home until after dark, in keeping with Hawaiian tradition of transporting deceased royalty?

"The body will be taken to Kawaiahao Church tonight about midnight ... It is a custom of Hawaiians not to move the bodies of their royal dead from one place to another except at night."1 Body of Queen Will Be Moved At Midnight: In State Tomorrow

  • Reviewed: Train Track Park (Jerusalem)
  • Comment: We are hoping to have this run on November 11, the centennial anniversary of her death. KAVEBEAR and Mark Miller might want to offer ALT hooks.

Improved to Good Article status by Mark Miller (talk), KAVEBEAR (talk), and Maile66 (talk). Nominated by Maile66 (talk) at 23:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Substantial GA on plenty of good sources, no copyvio obvious. - The image is licensed, but I'd expect the other on to show better in small size. - I am not happy with the hook, sorry. Yes, we commemorate her anniversary of death, but couldn't we say something about what made her great (compose, represent for the Golden Jubilee, - pick somthing, also to match the image better). - Article: I don't think we need "American" twice in 2 sentences beginning "Religious beliefs". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
You need to be more specific. What "other"? The infobox image? I put a different one in there after this DYK nomination was created. This article is currently at FAC, so feel free to contribute there - we could probably use your input. Well, I'm happy with the hook, because the Hawaiian tradition of not moving deceased royals except at night is somewhat unique. You know ... people might click on it. I actually did a separate article on her death and funeral, because I thought everything around it was so unique. However, I would like @KAVEBEAR and Mark Miller: and even you, Gerda, to offer some ALTs. I think we're all open to different ideas on a hook . — Maile (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
KAVEBEAR corrected the second "American" you mention above. — Maile (talk) 17:51, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, both. I mean this image. If I word a hook, I can't approve it ;) - If you three agree that the hook is perfect, I will approve it, of course, even if I think it would be a good one for the extra article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT1...that when Queen Liliuokalani died on at her home, Washington Place (that now serves as the Hawaii State Governor's Mansion), that her body was not moved until night, in keeping with Hawaiian tradition?--Mark Miller (talk) 00:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
.I'd also like to second the suggestion by Gerda Arendt for the reasons given as well as that the young image might be better for a DYK involving her birth or early life and the older image is from her brother's coronation.::--Mark Miller (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
The image is from her 1898 residence in DC not her brother's coronation. (Source: John Roy Musick (1898). Hawaii, Our New Possessions. Funk & Wagnalls. p. 348. )--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:50, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Demonstrate that please or your comment is opinion. Seriously.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:48, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Can you read the source in the image? I don't understand where you came to the conclusion that it was from her brother's coronation?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 12:56, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Image has been swapped, so that issue is resolved. Per DYK rules on the image: Wikipedia:DYKIMG "3. It must already be in the article". — Maile (talk) 12:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Striking ALT1, since it uses a parenthetical comments, something not allowed with DYK hooks (except for the "(pictured)" in lead hooks; see WP:DYKSG#C9). BlueMoonset (talk) 04:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
OK, since there was no attempt to save that, I will make no attempt to save this. I am against this entire DYK and am prepared to request further comment from projects. Using DYK as an attempt to change long standing images is just wrong. I really think that it should have been mentioned when the image was suggested what would happen. Since I have too much good faith in Gerda. I have to conclude that this article is not ready for DYK or FA.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:47, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Maile66 Mark Miller Stop. I do not think Maile is "Using DYK as an attempt to change long standing images". Maile has indicate they are willing to go by the majority and also have the DYK image be a non-infobox image. Can you agree on a compromise to continuing using the old image, add the DYK image by Prince to the body and use it for this DYK instead?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 12:56, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Starting over. I said I didn't think the youthful image was suitable to match the original hook. That didn't imply anything for the article. It could have stayed the lead image there, with the other somewhere later where it fits the context, or it could have stayed even for DYK, with a hook to match. The placement of pics in the article should be discussed on the article talk. This DYK nomination is not ready to be approved today, but we still have a month to find something we can agree on. The article is ready. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that Queen Liliuokalani (pictured) instructed Bina Mossman's Glee Club in Hawaiian language enunciation when they rehearsed in her royal Washington Place residence? We held many of our early rehearsals at Washington Place, Queen Liliuokalani's home on Beretania Street, which became the Governor's Mansion sometime after her death. The Queen helped us with the correct enunciation of Hawaiian words.1 How's this one @Gerda Arendt and KAVEBEAR:? — Maile (talk) 00:59, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
I like that one, what do others think? - This is your chance to make more things known about her on a highly visited page ;) - For the Main page: please link Hawaiian, - and do reader know glee club? (I didn't) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Oh, good, you liked it. I linked what you suggested and rearranged the sentence for a better flow. — Maile (talk) 11:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT3 ... that when Queen Liliuokalani (pictured) designated a portion of her estate to benefit Hawaii's orphaned and destitute children, Prince Jonah Kūhiō Kalanianaʻole filed a lawsuit challenging her competence?...trustees would use the rest of the trust's income to benefit orphan and indigent children, with preference given to Hawaiians of pure or part aboriginal blood. The bitter legal disputes that surrounded the queen's personal estate began in 1910 ... Those closest to her, including Kuhio, would even call into question the queen's competence. 1
@Gerda Arendt: Here's another one. — Maile (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I like that also, it's more substantial in a way, but while the other said Hawaiian, this will need a hint. You could pipe the nephew to his rather long name, to win space for that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I took out the nephew part, because it's complicated. He was the adopted son of Kalakaua's wife Kapiolani, but Kapiolani was genetically his aunt. — Maile (talk) 22:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Understand, but how about Hawaii? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Not sure what you were getting at about "Hawaiian", but editing it guessing on what you meant. Aren't we having fun here? — Maile (talk) 22:34, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg We do ;) - For now, we have three approved hooks, but I will keep watching. My choice would be ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
  1. ^ Marsh, H. W., & Hau, K. T. (2003). [28] Big-fish–little-pond effect on academic self-concept: A cross-cultural (26-country) test of the negative effects of academically selective schools. American Psychologist, 58, 364–376.
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