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Prevent categorization in user sandboxes?

It seems that there has recently been an explosion of stub templates listed on Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories. Would it be possible to update this template so that stub templates only add categories in mainspace, and not in userspace? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

It is true that pre-Luaisation, the Asbox template would only categorise (into Category:All stub articles plus the cats defined by |category= |category1= |category2=) when used in mainspace; however, the recent change to this behaviour has enabled me to detect misuse, as with these ten bot edits. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Then we'll need to add {{polluted category}} to all the stub categories to make Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories usable again. Before I submit an RFBA, does anyone have a bot already approved to do this? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
I have a fix ready for this. Just doing a little more testing before I release it. I apologize for any inconvenience as I failed to anticipate userspace articles when coding the module. It will take a few days to a week for the patch to reach every userspace page due to the high number of transclusions. —CodeHydro 23:16, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
That last sentence is a fair description of pages being put in the job queue. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Misuse on categorry pages can be found with this. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted Codehydro's patch, as it prevents ctegorization from articles, too. There's no need for a bot to add {{polluted category}} to all the stub categories - I did it with one edit. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Brought the patched patch back. Basically, the module has two functions that deal with categories: one that find the category parameters, and one that outputs the categories. Long story short, I moved the 'find' function so that it would only be executed in in article space, but in trying to move the 'output' function to a place unreadable by user space, I failed to place it in a position that would be executed in article space. A single misplaced line of code that wasn't caught in tests since all testcases were in template space, which was obviously unaffected by my actions for article/user space. I've created new tests to prevent bugs like this from slipping through the cracks in the future. —CodeHydro 14:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
@Od Mishehu and Codehydro: There are still over 100 stub categories showing up on Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories. Are there any other actions that should be taken to prevent this? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:01, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: Well, the job queue is fully cycled but looks like a few categories got left behind. There isn't really anything that can be done from Module:Asbox. For example [1] shows User:Revjlamont in the list, even though the user page itself does not show the category. All you can do is null edit user pages in each polluted category, perhaps via a bot —CodeHydro 03:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
@Legoktm and Joe Decker: Would either of you be willing to run your null edit bot over these user pages to fix the incorrect categorization? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:46, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 August 2016

"Herry Tangiri" Name Correction Ankitszone (talk) 20:51, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Note: Yes, the name was incorrectly spelled in the article M.S. Dhoni: The Untold Story, and thank you for catching that, but what makes you think something in this template needs to be changed?  Rules of enpagement Paine  21:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Visual editor or Markup?

Perhaps having the editing link default to Visual editor would be sensible. The people who this template is targeted to are unlikely to be comfortable with markup. Recommend: veaction=edit in stead of action=edit. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 12:12, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. action=edit should load the VisualEditor for people with it enabled. But even if it doesn't work like that, this is a change which definitely requires consensus (given the volatility of the English Wikipedia relative to VE). Izno (talk) 12:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 17 July 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) KSFT (t|c) 19:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)



– Clearer template name -- this doesn't create a "box" of any sort, also expand the unnecessary abbreviation of "stub". {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 18:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment: I agree "asbox" means nothing intuitively, but would "Template:Stub template" not cause confusion with Template:Stub? What about "Template:Stub box" or "Template:Stub-detailed"? jamacfarlane (talk) 20:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
    Oppose both of those names: "Stub box" isn't right because this isn't a box, and "stub-detailed" seems to me like it would be the template you use on an article that one needs to explain why is a stub. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 21:07, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
    I misunderstood. I thought it was a template used on an article that is a stub. I don't oppose your proposal. jamacfarlane (talk) 02:13, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment A means article, and S means stub, and box is the rest. Christian75 (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    I understood what the name meant when I began this move request, but think it is inaccurate, overabbreviated, and unclear and should be renamed. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 14:20, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - We should have one naming system for the boxes (which this template used to be too) and not randomly omving them around. Christian75 (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Note: notified Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Stub_sortingxaosflux Talk 11:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • This is a meta template/module, that most users will never, ever see. So.. does it really matter ? I'd prefer to keep the family (ambox, tmbox, imbox, mbox etc) intact. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 14:20, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    This isn't part of that family -- it's a template that happens to have a similar name even though it has an orthogonal function. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 14:30, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose because it would be unnecessary; the title isn't reader-facing. Jc86035 (talk) 14:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    And thus it is a bad idea because... There is no reason that non-reader-facing templates should be allowed to have unclear names. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 14:28, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    @Pppery: Because you want to move a module without leaving a redirect, and the module is used on two million pages. What the module is called doesn't really matter because it's not supposed to be directly used in articles. In any case, the text right at the top of the template documentation explains exactly what the template does and why it's named such, and it does technically generate a box (table) even if it doesn't have a border or a background. There are also 87 templates and 35 modules on other WMF wikis named "Asbox". Jc86035 (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    "Stub template" also isn't the clearest name, partly because it's not particularly obvious what "stub" means to the hypothetical new user who doesn't understand the jargon used to classify article development levels. Jc86035 (talk) 15:58, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose It's not used in articles, except indirectly - this is the core around which all 29,112 stub templates are built. You may be thinking of {{stub}}, which is occasionally used in articles - by people who are not aware of (or can't be bothered to find) those specialised stub templates. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose no improvement for readers, transparent to most editors - but has large usage, that it does not draw a visible border isn't a big deal to me. — xaosflux Talk 21:32, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

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