Talk:Parental leave

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Globalize

Per the suggestions above, I suggest the Private parental leave section needs more of a global focus. Melody.waring (talk) 22:50, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Where it says the the private parental leave examples and perspectives are not necessarily representative of the world as a whole, I would ask how can this be improved when the rest of the world has no need for private parental leave because paid leave is guaranteed by the government? Private parental leave inherently must focus on the country that does not have a good public alternative. Halle.davis (talk) 05:13, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Child Welfare

There are no citations for child welfare. I looked around for a source and couldn’t find one. It makes me question if this is an actual argument used against parental leave. The argument is especially questionable since later in the article an actual paper that is cited states that evidence is conflicting on whether or not parental leave leads to higher fertility. Halle.davis (talk) 05:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Effects on the Labor Market

I wish there was a discussing putting the two studies (the one in Germany and the one in California) in Effects on the Labor Market in tandem with one another. For instance, one could look at the articles and see if they noted any outside influences on the relationship found. Thus, the two situations with opposite conclusions would make more sense in context, become more comparable, or allow readers to give more weight to one study because of the possibility of a spurious relationship. Halle.davis (talk) 05:20, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Effects on Children

In the Length of Leave, the line "There was no difference on children's long-term educational outcomes before and after the policy change” seemed out of place/off topic for me and should remain in the Effects on Children section.

The Effects on Children section should include more information about the improved psychological health mentioned in Effects on Prenatal-Postnatal Care.

The source for improved psychological health (as mentioned in Effects on Prenatal-Postnatal Care) is definitely biased toward parental leave. Alternatives for improvement include: the bias could be noted, mention of bias could be left out because the book was citing a third party verifiable study, or a more direct citation of that third party study should be found as to make sure that it wasn't twisted in translation. Halle.davis (talk) 05:28, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Private parental leave

This section seems to focus on the United States. I would suggest that broader information be used, and or that it be clearly stated that this section is discussing private parental leave in a certain country. Sisterb2552 (talk) 15:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Expanding Economic Effects

While this article does a fairly good job of hitting basic points, there's significant research that could be included under the effects on the labor market, child development, and the economy. As part of a class I'm taking at the University of Chicago law school, I'm considering working on the article to add some of this important research. I've already begun compiling potential sources and I've listed them below:

1. Tanaka, Sakiko. "Parental leave and child health across OECD countries." The Economic Journal 115, no. 501 (January 27, 2005). doi:10.1111/j.0013-0133.2005.00970.x.

2. Han, Wen-Jui, and Jane Waldfogel. "Parental leave: The impact of recent legislation on parents' leave taking." Demography 40, no. 1 (February 2003): 191-200. doi:10.1353/dem.2003.0003.

3. Ruhm, Christopher. "The Economic Consequences of Parental Leave Mandates: Lessons from Europe." July 1996. doi:10.3386/w5688.\

4. Waldfogel, Jane. "Understanding the ‘‘Family Gap’’ in Pay for Women with Children." Journal of Economic Perspectives, 1998. http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.467.6387&rep=rep1&type=pdf.

5. Baum, Charles L., II. "The Effects of Maternity Leave Legislation on Mothers' Labor Supply after Childbirth." Southern Economic Journal 69, no. 4 (April 2003): 772-99. doi:10.2307/1061651.

6. Waldfogel, Jane. "The Family Gap for Young Women in the United States and Britain: Can Maternity Leave Make a Difference?" Journal of Labor Economics 16, no. 3 (July 1998): 505-45. doi:10.1086/209897.

7. Harkness, Susan, and Jane Waldfogel. "The Family Gap In Pay: Evidence From Seven Industrialized Countries." Worker Well-Being and Public Policy Research in Labor Economics, 2003, 369-413. doi:10.1016/s0147-9121(03)22012-4.

8. Davies, Rhys, and Gaëlle Pierre. "The family gap in pay in Europe: a cross-country study." Labour Economics 12, no. 4 (August 2005): 469-86. doi:10.1016/j.labeco.2005.05.003.

9. Nielsen, Helena Skyt, Marianne Simonsen, and Mette Verner. "Does the Gap in Family-friendly Policies Drive the Family Gap?" Scandinavian Journal of Economics 106, no. 4 (December 13, 2004): 721-44. doi:10.1111/j.0347-0520.2004.00385.x.

10. Schönberg, Uta, and Johannes Ludsteck. "Expansions in Maternity Leave Coverage and Mothers’ Labor Market Outcomes after Childbirth." Journal of Labor Economics 32, no. 3 (July 2014): 469-505. doi:10.1086/675078. Jmekoenig (talk) 11:35, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

I thought that the additions to this section were very thorough and provided a great statistical background. I also liked how the section focused on maternal and paternal leave and their benefits independently and acknowledged the differences between them. I especially thought that the language used was very neutral and did not give any viewpoints of the author away. My only suggestion would be that due to the topic matter, the article is a little hard to read due to technical terms. I think this could be improved by putting more links in to technical terms or writing in shorter sentences with more definitions. Overall though I thought this was great work. Jonathanpoilpre (talk) 21:28, 28 May 2017 (UTC)jonathanpoilpre

I think that the additions to the "effects of parental leave" section are substantial and valuable! i think that they provide an very neutral perspective. I suggest adding to the section "effects on the economy" as I think that for many economists, this section may be important for substantiating any arguments for or against parental leave. I also think that these sections could benefit from a little more synthesis - at time they read like lists of research articles. Overall, I think these contributions greatly expand and nuance the conversation on parental leave! Hparten (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

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Effect on abortion rates

I would think that having paid maternity leave would mean the women is less likely to abort the child. This should be discussed in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:4200:1D10:18ED:9EB0:5B97:DF3D (talk) 01:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Looking to make additions

As extensive as this article is already, I think that I can still provide some meaningful contributions. I am looking to add some information on the effects of the mother-only parental leave, especially on the child. I will also be adding references to various arts throughout the article as I think that it will help strengthen the article as a whole. For why I chose to add to this article, you can read it at my user page. McCrowBar (talk) 04:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Additions and Edits I will do in the near future

My plan is to create a new section in the Wikipedia article under “Effects of parental leave” called “Effects on gender equality”. In this new section, I intend on adding information on the effects of varying parental leave policies on gender equality; more specifically, how generous parental leave policies that take into consideration both parents affect gender equality in different countries like Germany which has a lot of studies on it. I will also move the “Gender equality” section that under “Benefits of universal, paid parental leave” to be under this new section I created because it did not provide enough substance to be a section of its own, nor did it belong to the topic it was under. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McCrowBar (talkcontribs) 16:45, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Peer Evaluation 1

Hi! I think you did a great job with your addition of "effects on gender equality." You present different arguments and policies well and remain neutral. I suggest that you add some more citations to some of your sentences without any sources right now. Additionally, there are small grammatically and styling errors that can be easily fixed. I recommend reading back through your section to try and catch these errors. I think something that will improve your article will be to add links to other articles. This is a great way to help readers find other topics of interest or they may come across your section this way as well. Overall, great work! Mlb13 (talk) 03:15, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Peer Review 2

You did a great job working on the "effects on gender equality" section. I am impressed by how many countries you found information for, and I think you did an awesome job organizing them within the section. There are a few minor grammatical errors, which are not too big of a worry. I would suggest adding some links to other articles, and maybe expanding the subsections to include just a bit more information, but what you have written is great! Natsz72 (talk) 03:50, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Peer Review 3

Hey! I think that the article looks good! The organization of the article is well done, and it looks very comprehensive. I would use more references, just because it is recommended that each sentence/claim is sourced. However, I think that so far it looks good! Like the other two reviewers said, the "effects on gender equality" portion is fantastic. So far it all looks good! T.scott0513 (talk) 04:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Peer Review 4

Overall a great contribution to Wikipedia, McCrowbar. Nearly all of your sentences are supported by references and they present a very neutral view of the material in that they simply present data from some of these studies. I think that some of the structure of your paragraphs could be reworked however, as it seems sometime like you pull a sentence or two of material from a source and then move on to the next one. I think you can try combining some of these smaller 1-3 sentence paragraphs into larger, more substantive paragraphs that really build off of each other. Overall, a great contribution to Wikipedia! Gvacaliuc (talk) 01:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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