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Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article

TFA today

TFA tomorrow

See the discussion below under FL. - Dank (push to talk) 04:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Errors in In the news

Soul singer linking span should be adjusted to soul singer. Brandmeistertalk 07:28, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion yesterday suggested that it should not be linked at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
That was one opinion. And sea of blue was a ridiculous statement. Stephen 11:05, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
For now, I've replaced the link to the redirect with a direct link. Whether it should be linked at all is another matter. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I thought Brandmeister was asking for something else? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:01, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes. I'm neutral about linking per se, but if we link, better link just the genre, "soul" (excluding "singer"). Brandmeistertalk 12:09, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day

OTD today

(Michael Phelps) I find "in a single games" irritating. Possibly "at a single Games" (see List of multiple Olympic medalists at a single Games). Jmar67 (talk) 15:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Not done I don’t see this as an error. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:26, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (Janssen) "chromosphere of the Sun"? Article capitalizes it. Jmar67 (talk) 16:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Also supported by MOS:CELESTIALBODIES: The words sun, earth, moon and solar system are capitalized (as proper names) when used in an astronomical context to refer to a specific celestial body. Modulus12 (talk) 04:45, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • "Astronomer Pierre Jules Janssen discovered helium while analysing the chromosphere of the sun during a total solar eclipse in Guntur, India."
This gives the impression that the eclipse was limited to this part of India while in reality it was visible across a swathe of countries in the Far East. I suggest you move "in Guntur, India" to earlier in the blurb or omit in entirely. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:29, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
There is actually another problem here, because Janssen's claim to the discovery of helium is rather weak. He did detect its characteristic spectral line, but it was only in December 1868 that he was convinced that it was not one of the sodium D lines, and he never (at least publicly) conjectured that it came from a new element. As our helium article correctly states, it was Norman Lockyer who took that last step in collaboration with Edward Frankland – though they did not publish that name either, which was first mentioned in public in 1871 by Lord Kelvin. In fact, they both waited until helium's earthly discovery in the 1890s to publish the name helium. All of this information can be found in the excellent historical study The Story of Helium and the Birth of Astrophysics by Binam B. Nath (published by Springer). Given the complexity of the historical situation, I suggest changing the text to "Astronomer Pierre Jules Janssen analysed the chromosphere of the sun during a total solar eclipse in Guntur, India, which led to the discovery of helium". Double sharp (talk) 14:58, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

OTD tomorrow

The line for 1978 has a - instead of a – separating the year and the event. 85.224.99.162 (talk) 10:33, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Changed. Hut 8.5 14:07, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Errors in the current or next Did you know...

DYK current

DYK next

Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture

POTD today

The note pictured is dated "2013."

Does this have any effect on the year of "2011" mentioned in the text?

Just curious. 2600:8800:785:1300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

  • The image and text say that the design of the note was created in 2011, and that design was still being used when the note was made in 2013. Hut 8.5 14:04, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Also: Articles about a national currency should refer to the ISO4217 code rather then archaic abbreviations. The code for the Indonesian Rupiah is IDR.

acahopkins (talk) 13:55, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

  • "Rp" is the Currency symbol of the Indonesian rupiah. We don't insist that people write "USD" instead of $. Hut 8.5 14:04, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Parterre doesn't translate as earth, it translates as flowerbed. English for Parterre de broderie is embroidery flowerbed. Awien (talk) 02:05, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

POTD tomorrow

Errors in the summary of the last or next featured list

FL current

FL next

The Featured Article and Featured List for August 20 are both closely similar articles about Amy Adams. I know this page is for today and tomorrow only, but last time I posted at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list nothing happened, and I was told it was because that page isn't read. Art LaPella (talk) 04:28, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

The "Next" FL is the 20th, so this seems to be the right place. (Although I can't promise I'll see requests here ... maybe a ping or a mention at ERRORS/TFA, in general?) TFA isn't special. OTOH, we might look at things like: the strength of consensus, who scheduled first, etc. It makes sense that if people are looking for date relevance, we'd run similar articles from time to time ... I don't remember it happening often, though. - Dank (push to talk) 04:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Pinging @WP:TFA coordinators: . I left a pointer at WT:TFL. - Dank (push to talk) 12:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm not seeing the issue - it makes sense to me that we should run related articles on a day that has a connection - if that means that TFA and TFL for a day share a theme ... great! Especially if they are about a woman since we often get complaints about not having enough women. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't remember such close duplication before, and I do remember it being considered a problem. Art LaPella (talk) 14:43, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I think that the problem there was two otherwise unrelated articles on the same general topic. Here we have two closely related articles on the same date-linked topic. I don't have problem here, especially, as Ealdgyth says, when they are about a woman Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:05, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Well, I have no say in scheduling, I just co-write the blurbs and keep an eye on this page and other relevant pages. Not my call. - Dank (push to talk) 15:08, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
It isn't different perspectives, it's the same facts rephrased. And if we're doing something so new based on gender (don't get me started on feminism!) then you'd think they'd pick a woman I've heard of. Art LaPella (talk) 16:15, 18 August 2018 (UTC) Struck last sentence because Adams is well-known on Google. Art LaPella (talk) 23:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
As the regular TFL scheduler, I can report that we received a request for this list to appear on the 20th. I decided to run it because it sounded like a great choice for that date, given the connection to Adams' birthday. Apparently one of the TFA coordinators shared my view. Please note that if you'd like me personally to change the list, that can only happen in the next few hours because I'm not an admin and cannot edit the blurb after today. If a consensus emerges tomorrow or on the 20th, you'll have to get an admin to replace the list. I've noticed that suggestions here sometimes don't get acted upon quickly, so you might want to ask for help at AN or ANI if a change is wanted. Since there doesn't seem to be a consensus for a change at the moment, I won't take any action for now, but will monitor the discussion over the next few hours and move into action if necessary. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


General discussion

Aretha Franklin

Since she's a Level 4 vital article, surely her death counts as major news, and not a footnote in the "recent deaths" section?--Leon (talk) 17:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

There's currently a discussion about if the article is of sufficient quality. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Currenly on the Main page. —Bruce1eetalk 06:44, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Death blurb syntax

We've had numerous blurbs saying Person-X "died at the age of XX." It would be shorter and more news-like to say "at age XX," the and of being redundant. Sca (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

"at the age of" sounds more correct to me. Or even just "aged". I may be wrong though.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:21, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
"Aged" would be better than "at the age of," but "at age" is succinct and the the and of parts are instantly understood as being implied. Sca (talk) 14:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
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