Talk:2008 Summer Olympics medal table

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Medal Table totals

It seems that the total of gold and silver medals is incorrect. I've counted up to 303 golds and 301 silvers, while the table shows 302/302. I don't know if the totals are incorrect or some NOC medal count is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.37.21.151 (talk) 14:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I think the difference may be that someone has moved the Polish weightlifter from silver to gold, but that is not shown elsewhere with the other associated changes. See history of the relevant event article. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Changes in medal standings

I think the two tables should be consolidated into one. We have three different status to log here, all directly related to an event (though in the case of Women's Shot Put, with two disqualifications, two different announce dates): 1) A disqualification has been issued. WP:BLP rules would rule out any hypothetical or anticipated actions without sources. 2) Confirmed medal advancement of subsequent placers following the disqualification. A slow process by the IOC and verification necessary by a reliable source. I'll note, the IOC is not good about publicizing their medal advancements, but other sources will commonly show a medal ceremony or report an unceremonious delivery of a medal to a displaced competitor. That needs to be distinguished from 3) The obvious but unconfirmed, hypothetical medal advancement. Taking this into a second table makes the whole process confusing to the reader. I think we can solve this by color coding the backgrounds of non-confirmed actions, obviously advancing to level 2) when confirmed by a source. Trackinfo (talk) 22:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

In my opinion, the second table is not needed at all. "The obvious but unconfirmed medal advancement" is very confused definition for it. The matter is that IOC itself does not reallocate medals, but request International Federations (IFs) do it. Some IFs, IAAF for example, has not clear single procedure for medal redistribution (or do not publish it). Some IFs, IWF for example, have Results Management procedures (http://www.iwf.net/anti-doping/reanalysis/), but the result of applying this procedure is not obvious. If it was obvious, the procedure would not be necessary, and IF would take a decision automatically. So the second table is only our suggestions. Nitobus (talk) 16:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

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